So I've been trying to hook up with some chicks on PoF during the last couple of months and I went to 5 dates, but every time after 1st or 2nd date they never call me back!

Look I realize maybe I have a few shortcomings, or don't have the most fun personality, but at least I'm an educated person, stay in shape, make sure I put a lot of perfume and wear something nice and I see all these fat ghetto types of guys hang out at the mall who are dating 7/10 chicks.

Why is it so difficult to hook up with a chick, is the competition really that fierce?
Who is ruining it for guys like me who should have no problem hooking up with chicks? Why do they always expect you to be able to have a degree in stand up comedy, and come up with non stop jokes or know all the clubs and hook ups
or excel at vast array of activities like dancing bowling etc.

It seems if you want to get a shot at hooking up you need to change who you are ... why is being an average type of guy not enough?

It's great you got all the physical stuff together, being well presented/dressed/groomed etc is the first step, but there's so much more girls judge guys on.

good posture and display of confidence id say is next best, leaning back, relaxed, not leaning forward, talking slowly and calmly
you have to dominate and direct the conversation, this doesn't mea telling jokes the whole time, and certainly doen't mean speaking more than her, but making sure you're calling the shots
then there's the topics, you want to be teasing her negging, using C&F, building sexual tension, DHV with stories etc, maybe even kino

so much more, but they the ones that spring to mind
best material Im my modest opinion is David deangelo's double your dating, a lot of stuff there about the date

stick with it buddy

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And then nail the conversion

Well first off...putting on a lot of perfume is odd for a dude. I'm just throwing that out there. Stop blaming everyone else. It's not the girls' fault, nor is it the "fat ghetto dudes" as you put it, that you aren't succeeding. The most likely things, as it's the usual issue guys have, is that you aren't escalating. You stay five feet away from women while you talk to them, then dive in for a kiss. Stay physical, and it's a lot harder to fail.

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These hos ain't loyal

So you basically think that the world should change to suit your purposes. That girls should be educated to appreciate guys like you and everybody should change so that you wont have to?

You say that your most attractive traits are:
An education
perfume
clothes
not being fat

These are traits that are not very important when it comes to attraction. An education? Yes, many people have that, that has nothing to do with attraction. Perfume, anybody can wear that. Clothes, yes it shows that you are "rich enough" to wear nice stuff, not an attraction factor though. Not being fat, yes, that is good.

Look at it this way, there are insane amounts of people with these traits, you are not unique. There is nothing about that description that would make a girl think, oh what an interesting guy.

Now average can get a girl. Probably not the girl, but a girl. The problem is that girls will think, oh, I can do better. If she thinks that she can and there are better people around, she will go for them instead.

You post tells about other problems though if you read between the lines. Bitterness, a sense of being the victim, low self esteem. Those are traits that will chase her away even though you may be physically attractive and wear perfume. Start working on that man.

Now, yes, I agree, you dont have to change who you are to get a girl, unless you are a terrible person. But you do have to change the way you see the world, the way you adress problems, the way you blame everything on everybody else. Keep your core values, they are probably great and get mentally stronger. Its like going to the gym, you get stronger but you dont change your personality.

Thing is, we dont just wanna get lucky and find one girl who we by accident happens to say the right thing to and randomly attach ourselves to just because she is the only one to ever show any interest. We wanna be able to choose ourselves, we wanna turn it from her market to our market.

I hope you take this advice, it is gonna help you if you decide that it is not everybody elses fault but that the responsability is your own.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn