I have been friends with this girl for like 5 years, through the course of time she has become my best female friend. I spend more time with her than anyone else.

She has had 3 different boyfriends since the beginning of our friendship. They usually last 1 1/2 years. First guy I didn't know well, Second she got engaged to and he turned out to be cheating on her with other men...And her most recent is a chump who likes to creep and sneak around...we all saw it but you can't tell her shit. The funny thing about her is she will break up with one guy and 2 weeks later will have magically met someone else.

Anyways on those drunken nights we've crossed the line a bit to what would be considered inappropriate. When we go out to the clubs dancing and drinking I have my hands all over her. If I get turned on she grinds on it.

This past weekend she got extremely suspicious of the new guy. I ended up going back to her mothers house with her after the bars and we slept in the basement together and "cuddled". I had my hands all over her...she moved around a lot and said she felt guilty for doing this with me. I asked her if she wanted me to turn over and she said no. Every time I tried to inch my lips down closer to hers she would move her head down more.

Anyways the next day nothing happened. I have been re motivated with her. She turns me on to the point where I feel like I'm on fire. I thought this last relationship was gonna stick so I had moved on from the idea. Her and her bf are still having problems...as of today...which is valentines day. I dunno where this is going to go or what is going to happen but they do live together and they are supposed to go on a cruise I think at the end of this week or next.

Any methods for how to work with a girl in this situation? I'm nervous but determined to at least tell her how I feel about her or kiss her or fucking something god damn.

You're about as deep into the friendzone you can possibly get. She sees you as a eunuch cuddle buddy. You can kiss her sure, because she allows you to get that close, but you can be sure she won't kiss you back. I've been in the same position, it's similar to kissing the mouth of a dead fish.

You should seriously move on and forget about this girl, you won't get anywhere with her.

Thanks for the feedback. Yeah I've seen these things happen over time. But as a man and to prove it to myself that I can do it I still would like to pursue. Even if it is one kiss or me just telling her how I feel and getting it over with so I can look myself and the mirror and know I went for it.

I can cross kissing a dead fish off my bucket list lol.

I'm going to go for it period but I was just looking for the best way, if anyone's had success or could give me some advice on the best way to go about this. I'm not worried about losing the friendship, it won't happen.

If you want to date her two things become distant emotionally not physically, make her go for your attention. Go for a kiss but whisper that your bored when you want to make her fight for your attention never give it to her when she wants it. try to be an man be the alpha to her

5 years, and you have not kissed her?, have you been with other girls in your life?

it's just a kiss, whats up? why do you wait for her permission to do something?

she is being friendly, she lets you touch her, just go for it, all that will happen is she will reject it and blah blah blah, I don't see you that way

that is the worst that could happen, and really who cares... what are you waiting on, and why are you not trying to get a girl who is worth it to fill your needs, why is this the person that you spend ''the most of your time with'', maybe she is a good friend but why don't you go get a girlfriend?

the reason she has a new boyfriend 2 weeks after breaking up with the old one is because a girl is like a monkey, they move from branch to branch (boyfriend to boyfriend), and they don't let go of one branch until they have a hold of the next one

it is not a girls job to escalate, it is the guys job, stop being a wuss and just kiss the damn girl already god damn, you should try for a kiss the first time you hang out, not 5 years later

the only thing I can think that would help you out in this situation, is start going out regularily, no excuses about you don't like it and blah blah blah, excuses, just go out meet new girls, and try to have sex with them with in a week of meeting them, if you run into problems, ditch that girl, go out find another one, try again, don't cut contact with any girl you make contact with, just stop pursueing them, and pursue another girl as your focus, continue doing this until you can actually successfully get a girl to sleep with you through your own intent while leading, instead of waiting around for a girl to lead you

once you can do this, return to your oneitis, and escalate and lead with her, exactly how you would to any of those other girls you were practising on, nothing different, don't treat her special, same thing, same way

and absolutely do not stop meeting new girls until you have at the barest of bare minimums, one girl sleeping with you, full p in v, not just a girl who is interested, not just a girl who makes out with you, not just a girl giving you blowjobs, do not stop meeting girls unless you are having sex, or have a relationship defined as an actual relationship

don't wait for a girl to just hop on your dick and wounder why you keep getting friend zoned, go out there and hit on girls, and make it happen, actually put effort into convincing a girl to hop on your dick instead of just praying by some lucky star a girl will just magically escalate on you, it rarely, rarely ever happens, EVER

GOOD LUCK

you're right man, thank you.