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yeah man,i've seen all of their videos...the internet trolls is really funny i must say :lol:

you should check them out..

PS:this guy makes me laugh for days,here's one good video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIrvpn3k ... re=related
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yeah man,i've seen all of their videos...the internet trolls is really funny i must say :lol:

you should check them out..

PS:this guy makes me laugh for days,here's one good video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIrvpn3k ... re=related
ROFLLLLLLLLLLL!
yeah...he's awesome.

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This post really hit home with me because it touches one thing that will always prevent major success, the ego. There is no shame in not being a leader and admitting it. I'll go first, I work very well under good directive and I love it. I love it when somebody competent is able to recognize my skills and use them, challenge me and in this way allow me to bring value to the project and make me GROW. What's so wrong with that? On the other hand, the first step to "leadership" is having the self-initiative. I mean, if you're working under not so competent directive, your initiative will go a long way in bringing value to the group and it will be recognized sooner or later. The worst thing a person can do, imo, is let their ego cloud their judgement for good opportunities.
If you're a good follower, you will gain respect and future opportunities.

And I still don't get this obsession with all things "alpha". Do you honestly believe you have to AMOG every single group you're a part of? It's not only impossible, but futile too. If you just have your dignity and follow your principles, you'll gain respect. There is no need to prove your alphaness to anybody.

Well cheers everyone, I like this thread a lot.
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@360:

Here's the difference between the video you linked and what you and the delusional sexaddict man does in this forum:

Those guys in the video KNOW that they are being totally goofy. They know they are being nerds. They are laughing at themselves and allowing themselves to be HONEST. This is a remarkable characteristic that lowers fear and distrust, and creates friendships.

You and the sexaddict knucklehead have actually led yourselves to believe that you are COOL when you tell others that you are ALPHA LEADERS. Come on . . . wtf . . . most kids grow out of this childish crap when they're 16. I can't believe that a 38 year old comes on to a forum filled with teenage guys shouting that crap and i can't believe that you follow. Christ, what the hell has this forum come to?

Leaders of what? The only thing that your bossman leads are bottles of massage oils and YOU. The only thing that you lead are some deranged thoughts that you have some game in your pinky finger. What you two do around here has NOTHING to do with what those guys do in that video. What you two do is, "I am this, I am that. I am alpha, I am cool, I'm a leader, I fucked 400, 700, I tell chicks that I am this and that," (And you two really believe that you're doing something right while others are laughing in your face) If you want to offer advice, stick with what you know: the disco-break dancing game. I actually believe that you're pretty good at this.

The spirit of the initial post in this thread is an 180 degree opposite of the habits of you and the sexaddict man-boy-child.


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Since this topic was somewhat inadvertently raised . . .

People who do not do well in social groups or work groups will always have their excuses. Sometimes they will pull excuses out of the sky: "I'm too alpha for them. I'm too much of a leader for them.".... "There's something . . . I don't know . . . "

Sometimes they'll blame the group, "They're idiots. They're morons. They don't know what they're doing."

Well, here's the irony: ^These are the very traits always pisses off both social groups and work groups. Any leader worth his salt will identify energy sapping losers like ^this and kick them out of the group any way he can. In a 'fraternity house' setting, they will make life for losers like this a living hell. They will make every task more difficult and they will create unfair situation to make the loser 'give up'. This dynamic occurs in academia, politics, and every professional setting of all cultures. The only place where this might not occur is in your own home with your bottle feeding mommy.

Most of you are just beginning your journey:

1. Do not boast about any shit, especially if you can't back it up. Squeezing massage oils all day long is not "alpha". Working for yourself is not "leadership".

2. Create value. Demonstrate value. Offer value.

3. Do not fucking whine and do not fucking make excuses.

4. Above all, do not continue to dig deeper into your own shit after you've fucked up. Not 'everybody' is right. Not 'everybody' gets a ribbon. Your momma weened you off many years ago. (hopefully) If you fuck up, admit it, own up to it, and improve upon it.

5. Do not waste your time with losers. I don't care if they're silver spoon multi-yacht owning playboys. If they exude man-boy-child loser habits, you will become a part of this dynamic.

6. Learn to identify winners. Stick to them like glue.


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Why do you need to live like a rock star?

Maybe I'm crazy, but I've always had one goal in life that stayed ahead of all others: self-sufficiency. I want enough that I can take care of myself without any help, and forcing other people, be they family or taxpayers, to bear my own burden. I take a lot of pride in paying for myself, which is in direct conflict with this idea. I dont' need bottle service at bars, or a sports car, or a mansion. Don't get me wrong, I went to a casino last Saturday and had a terrific time. But I don't see the true link between pickup and a "rockstar" life.

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Since this topic was somewhat inadvertently raised . . .

People who do not do well in social groups or work groups will always have their excuses. Sometimes they will pull excuses out of the sky: "I'm too alpha for them. I'm too much of a leader for them.".... "There's something . . . I don't know . . . "

Sometimes they'll blame the group, "They're idiots. They're morons. They don't know what they're doing."

Well, here's the irony: ^These are the very traits always pisses off both social groups and work groups. Any leader worth his salt will identify energy sapping losers like ^this and kick them out of the group any way he can. In a 'fraternity house' setting, they will make life for losers like this a living hell. They will make every task more difficult and they will create unfair situation to make the loser 'give up'. This dynamic occurs in academia, politics, and every professional setting of all cultures. The only place where this might not occur is in your own home with your bottle feeding mommy.

Most of you are just beginning your journey:

1. Do not boast about any shit, especially if you can't back it up. Squeezing massage oils all day long is not "alpha". Working for yourself is not "leadership".

2. Create value. Demonstrate value. Offer value.

3. Do not fucking whine and do not fucking make excuses.

4. Above all, do not continue to dig deeper into your own shit after you've fucked up. Not 'everybody' is right. Not 'everybody' gets a ribbon. Your momma weened you off many years ago. (hopefully) If you fuck up, admit it, own up to it, and improve upon it.

5. Do not waste your time with losers. I don't care if they're silver spoon multi-yacht owning playboys. If they exude man-boy-child loser habits, you will become a part of this dynamic.

6. Learn to identify winners. Stick to them like glue.
"You can either roll with losers, or roll with winners and win." - 50 Cent

So true. I think I'm going to stop hanging out with my AFC friend. He still has his V-Card. It's like when I hang out with him nothing happens. But when I hang out with my more interesting friends who go out, have women, etc... I get in on some of the action too.


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This post really hit home with me because it touches one thing that will always prevent major success, the ego. There is no shame in not being a leader and admitting it. I'll go first, I work very well under good directive and I love it. I love it when somebody competent is able to recognize my skills and use them, challenge me and in this way allow me to bring value to the project and make me GROW. What's so wrong with that? On the other hand, the first step to "leadership" is having the self-initiative. I mean, if you're working under not so competent directive, your initiative will go a long way in bringing value to the group and it will be recognized sooner or later. The worst thing a person can do, imo, is let their ego cloud their judgement for good opportunities.
If you're a good follower, you will gain respect and future opportunities.

And I still don't get this obsession with all things "alpha". Do you honestly believe you have to AMOG every single group you're a part of? It's not only impossible, but futile too. If you just have your dignity and follow your principles, you'll gain respect. There is no need to prove your alphaness to anybody.

Well cheers everyone, I like this thread a lot.
Bingo!

@360:

Here's the difference between the video you linked and what you and the delusional sexaddict man does in this forum:

Those guys in the video KNOW that they are being totally goofy. They know they are being nerds. They are laughing at themselves and allowing themselves to be HONEST. This is a remarkable characteristic that lowers fear and distrust, and creates friendships.

You and the sexaddict knucklehead have actually led yourselves to believe that you are COOL when you tell others that you are ALPHA LEADERS. Come on . . . wtf . . . most kids grow out of this childish crap when they're 16. I can't believe that a 38 year old comes on to a forum filled with teenage guys shouting that crap and i can't believe that you follow. Christ, what the hell has this forum come to?

Leaders of what? The only thing that your bossman leads are bottles of massage oils and YOU. The only thing that you lead are some deranged thoughts that you have some game in your pinky finger. What you two do around here has NOTHING to do with what those guys do in that video. What you two do is, "I am this, I am that. I am alpha, I am cool, I'm a leader, I fucked 400, 700, I tell chicks that I am this and that," (And you two really believe that you're doing something right while others are laughing in your face) If you want to offer advice, stick with what you know: the disco-break dancing game. I actually believe that you're pretty good at this.

The spirit of the initial post in this thread is an 180 degree opposite of the habits of you and the sexaddict man-boy-child.

@kasabi:

"Those guys in the video KNOW that they are being totally goofy. They know they are being nerds. They are laughing at themselves and allowing themselves to be HONEST. This is a remarkable characteristic that lowers fear and distrust, and creates friendships. "

that is my style i call it self amusement...


" the disco-break dancing game. I actually believe that you're pretty good at this."


i do not do break dancing, but yes i only do club game but back in the day when i did day game my style was almost identical to the simple pick up crew...Thanks for the back handed complement, i think you are really good at taking shit out of context, i actually think you are pretty good at this, and attacking.. cool dude! peace! btw, i disagree with a lot of what sexaddict do, but it works for him... And no i am not cool, alpha or a leader, i am just me!

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ANYWAYS READ NEXT TO THE CAPS NO YELLING MY STYLE:

Since this topic was somewhat inadvertently raised . . . NO YOU MANAGE TO TAKE THE TOPIC TO ANOTHER DIRECTION

People who do not do well in social groups or work groups will always have their excuses. Sometimes they will pull excuses out of the sky: "I'm too alpha for them. I'm too much of a leader for them.".... "There's something . . . I don't know . . . " DUDE WHEN IT COMES TO A FRATERNITY, BACK IN THE DAYS IT WAS CALLED PLEDGING THEY MAKE LIFE A LIVING HELL FOR ALL THE PLEDGES.

Sometimes they'll blame the group, "They're idiots. They're morons. They don't know what they're doing." IF YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE FRATERNITY, MAKING YOU DRINK, DO SOME MILITARY SHIT, DRESS AS A WOMEN, THROW YOU IN A DESERTED CAVE, YES I THINK THAT SHIT WAS STUPID...SOMETIMES IS GOOD NOT TO GO ALONG WITH WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING, ENRON, DISCRIMINATE AGAINST A GROUP,DRUGS, ALCOHOL, CIGARETTES, MYSTERY METHOOD ETC..

Well, here's the irony: ^These are the very traits always pisses off both social groups and work groups. Any leader worth his salt will identify energy sapping losers like ^this and kick them out of the group any way he can. In a 'fraternity house' setting, they will make life for losers like this a living hell. They will make every task more difficult and they will create unfair situation to make the loser 'give up'. This dynamic occurs in academia, politics, and every professional setting of all cultures. The only place where this might not occur is in your own home with your bottle feeding mommy. DUDE, FRATERNITIES AND STUPID SHIT LIKE THAT IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY WAS NOT FOR ME, DOES NOT MEAN I AM ALL THE SHIT YOU DESCRIBED, I DID NOT LIKE BEING IN A FRATERNITY, AFTER I QUIT, THEY BEG ME TO COME BACK, POLITICS AND OTHER PROFESSIONAL SETTINGS MAY NOT BE FOR THAT PARTICULAR PERSON AND HIS PERSONALITY..I WORKED FOR AS A STOCKBROKER SELLING SHITTY STOCK EVERYBODY ELSE WAS DOING IT, ONCE I FOUND IT WAS A SCAM I LEFT, IS OK TO GO AGAINST A GROUP OR ORGANIZATION AND FOLLOW YOUR PRINCIPLES...

Most of you are just beginning your journey:

1. Do not boast about any shit, especially if you can't back it up. Squeezing massage oils all day long is not "alpha". Working for yourself is not "leadership". SQUEEZING MASSAGE OILS WILL GET YOU LAID, ACTUALLY IF YOU GET A GIRL INTO YOUR CRIB AND YOU MANAGE TO GIVE HER A MASSAGE YOU PROBABLY IF YOU DO IT RIGHT WILL GET LAID, IF YOU WORK FOR YOURSELF AND YOU RUN MANY COMPANIES, INVOLVES HAVING LEADERSHIP QUALITIES, ALSO I DO NOT KNOW ANY DUDE THAT IS GOOD WITH WOMEN THAT IS NOT A LEADER OR HAS A LOT OF ALPHA QUALITIES ONE WHICH IS TO LEAD..

2. Create value. Demonstrate value. Offer value. IN A BIZ SITUATION YES, WITH WOMEN NO, WITH WOMEN ASSUME YOU HAVE THE VALUE(YOU ARE THE PRIZE), DO NOT TRY TO OFFER OR DEMONSTRATE VALUE, TRYING TO IMPRESS A WOMAN FASTEST WAY TO LOSE HER.

3. Do not fucking whine and do not fucking make excuses. GOOD!

4. Above all, do not continue to dig deeper into your own shit after you've fucked up. Not 'everybody' is right. Not 'everybody' gets a ribbon. Your momma weened you off many years ago. (hopefully) If you fuck up, admit it, own up to it, and improve upon it. GOOD!

5. Do not waste your time with losers. I don't care if they're silver spoon multi-yacht owning playboys. If they exude man-boy-child loser habits, you will become a part of this dynamic. AGREE AND KEEP AWAY FROM NEGATIVITY AND PICKING UP ENEMIES AND FIGHTS...

6. Learn to identify winners. Stick to them like glue. EXCELLENT! SOMETIMES LOSERS TRY TO SOUND AND PRETEND TO BE WINNERS...WINK WINK

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I'll only stick to the counterarguments that pertain to the spirit of the initial post.
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DUDE WHEN IT COMES TO A FRATERNITY, BACK IN THE DAYS IT WAS CALLED PLEDGING THE MAKE LIFE A LIVING HELL FOR ALL THE PLEDGES,
Absolutely not. Having been a member of many athletic teams from high school to International levels, having been a coach at a University level, having been a part of academic groups, work groups, political groups, and yes, FRATERNITIES, I can tell you with 100% certainty that all groups aim to make life a living hell for the asshole losers of the group. Favored people get passes. This is simply social dynamics. You might remember it as "hell for all" because they targeted you.
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1. Do not boast about any shit, especially if you can't back it up. Squeezing massage oils all day long is not "alpha". Working for yourself is not "leadership". SQUEEZING MASSAGE OILS WILL GET YOU LAID, SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT, ACTUALLY IF YOU GET A GIRL INTO YOUR CRIB AND YOU MANAGE TO GIVE HER A MASSAGE YOU PROBABLY IF YOU DO IT RIGHT WILL GET LAID,
Again, what the hell does this have to do with bragging that he/you are alpha leaders of some imaginary space academy?
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IF YOU WORK FOR YOURSELF AND YOU RUN MANY COMPANIES, INVOLVES HAVING LEADERSHIP QUALITIES,
If you are a leader, you lead others. If you have leadership qualities, you employ others. If you sit at home alone all day long, no, you are not a leader nor do you have leadership qualities. Why do you continue to bend commonly known definitions that 10 year olds understand? Why is it so important to label yourself a leader/alpha? What do you want to be when you grow up?

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ALSO I DO NOT KNOW ANY DUDE THAT IS GOOD WITH WOMEN THAT IS NOT A LEADER OR HAS A LOT OF ALPHA QUALITIES ONE WHICH IS TO LEAD..
Go ahead and describe to me 'alpha qualities' because I'm certain you have no idea what you're talking about.
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2. Create value. Demonstrate value. Offer value. IN A BIZ SITUATION YES, WITH WOMEN NO, WITH WOMEN ASSUME VALUE, DO NOT TRY TO OFFER OR DEMONSTRATE VALUE, TRYING TO IMPRESS A WOMAN FASTEST WAY TO LOSE HER.
In business situations, I do not create, demonstrate, or offer value to 'impress' others. I do it to leverage my offerings for returned benefits. I do not create, demonstrate, or offer value to women to 'impress' them. I do it to leverage my offerings for returned benefits. Judging by what you wrote, I am certain you have no idea what 'value' means. If you have no idea what things mean, at least google it and figure it out before you go off on some tangent about value having something to do with 'impressing' others . . .


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You have to DHV indirectly bro. Obviously "I'm head captain of my football team" will make you look retarded. But if she see's a pic of you, watches you play, etc... that's the correct way to DHV.

Here are the 5 waves to DHV from MB:

1) She observes it.
She sees me come to an exclusive new restaurant in a limousine and the Maitre D’
usher me to the best table.

2) She learns of it from a trusted personal source, like a friend
Her best friend tells her that I am friends with the owner of the restaurant.

3) She learns of it from a neutral source.
She sees a picture of me with the owner of the restaurant.

4) She learns of it from a source that is biased to me, like my friend.
My friend tells her that I am friends with the owner of the restaurant.

5) I tell her.
I tell her that I am friends with the owner of the restaurant.


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AGAIN HERE WE GO WITH YOUR SPINNING, IF KASABI SAYS IT IS FACT AND IS THE BIBLE, SPIN MASTER HERE WE GO:

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I'll only stick to the counterarguments that pertain to the spirit of the initial post. REALLY??????
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DUDE WHEN IT COMES TO A FRATERNITY, BACK IN THE DAYS IT WAS CALLED PLEDGING THE MAKE LIFE A LIVING HELL FOR ALL THE PLEDGES,
Absolutely not. DUDE TELL ME MORE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED, YOU ARE GOD, SO TELL ME, 4 PLEDGES WE WERE ALL TREATED THE SAME, IN THE ARMY ALL RECRUITS GET TREATED THE SAME, IN MY MARTIAL ARTS ALL THE NEW CORDES GET GIVING HELL THE SAME, DUDE BE HUMBLE AND STOP PRETENDING TO KNOW IT ALL, YOU SOUND LIKE AN ARROGANT JERK Having been a member of many athletic teams from high school to International levels, having been a coach at a University level, having been a part of academic groups, work groups, political groups, and yes, FRATERNITIES, I can tell you with 100% certainty that all groups aim to make life a living hell for the asshole losers of the group. Favored people get passes. This is simply social dynamics. You might remember it as "hell for all" because they targeted you.THEREFORE SINCE IT WAS KASABIS EXPERIENCE MOST BE EVERYBODY ELSES EXPERIENCE, DUDE YOU ARE DELUSIONAL..
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1. Do not boast about any shit, especially if you can't back it up. Squeezing massage oils all day long is not "alpha". Working for yourself is not "leadership". SQUEEZING MASSAGE OILS WILL GET YOU LAID, SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT, ACTUALLY IF YOU GET A GIRL INTO YOUR CRIB AND YOU MANAGE TO GIVE HER A MASSAGE YOU PROBABLY IF YOU DO IT RIGHT WILL GET LAID,
Again, what the hell does this have to do with bragging that he/you are alpha leaders of some imaginary space academy? NOBADY WAS BRAGGING, YOU TOOK MY GETTING OUT OF A FRATERNITY AS ME BRAGGING OF BEING ALPHA AND A LEADER, I SAID YOU WERE RIGHT, THEN I EXPLAINED THAT I DID NOT FEEL LIKE JOINING, 50 PARAGRAPH LATERS, WE ARE HIGH JACKING THE OP THREAT, WHAT IS GOAL DUDE? THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN SAY OR DO TO PUT ME DOWN, BUT KEEP TRYING...
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IF YOU WORK FOR YOURSELF AND YOU RUN MANY COMPANIES, INVOLVES HAVING LEADERSHIP QUALITIES,
If you are a leader, you lead others. If you have leadership qualities, you employ others.YES If you sit at home alone all day long, no, you are not a leader nor do you have leadership qualities. AGREE1 Why do you continue to bend commonly known definitions that 10 year olds understand? ANSWER YOUR OWN QUESTION Why is it so important to label yourself a leader/alpha? IT IS NOT WHY IS SO IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO GO AND ON ABOUT SOME STUPID SHITWhat do you want to be when you grow up? KASABI DEFINITELY YOU ARE MY IDLE, AN ANGRY DUDE, WITH INTELLECTUAL CRAP...

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ALSO I DO NOT KNOW ANY DUDE THAT IS GOOD WITH WOMEN THAT IS NOT A LEADER OR HAS A LOT OF ALPHA QUALITIES ONE WHICH IS TO LEAD..
Go ahead and describe to me 'alpha qualities' because I'm certain you have no idea what you're talking about. I AM GLAD WE HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON... MOST OF YOUR POST I FEEL THE SAME WAY INCLUDING THIS ONE...
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2. Create value. Demonstrate value. Offer value. IN A BIZ SITUATION YES, WITH WOMEN NO, WITH WOMEN ASSUME VALUE, DO NOT TRY TO OFFER OR DEMONSTRATE VALUE, TRYING TO IMPRESS A WOMAN FASTEST WAY TO LOSE HER.
In business situations, I do not create, demonstrate, or offer value to 'impress' others. I do it to leverage my offerings for returned benefits. GOOD I DO THE SAME THING.. I do not create, demonstrate, or offer value to women to 'impress' them. I do it to leverage my offerings for returned benefits. Judging by what you wrote, I am certain you have no idea what 'value' means. If you have no idea what things mean, at least google it and figure it out before you go off on some tangent about value having something to do with 'impressing' others . . .
NO NEED, I ASSUME I HAVE VALUE WITH WOMEN, IN OTHER WORDS THEY NEED ME, I AM THE PRIZE... IN BIZ I DO iT BY OFFERING, BETTER,CHEAPER AND MORE QUALITY PRODUCT THAN EXISTING ONE...

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It's no wonder why you identify so well with the delusional moron of the forum.

Are you suggesting that you do not offer preferential SPAM to those you like? In this thread, 1. I am cutting you a new asshole. 2. You don't like it. 3. Thus you treat me poorly and treat others better. Aren't you proving my point? This is the nature of the World.
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IT IS NOT WHY IS SO IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO GO AND ON ABOUT SOME STUPID SHIT
It only seems like 'stupid shit' to you because you're on the wrong end of the stick. It's important for the spirit of this thread because the idea is to NOT end up a mid 30 year old guy bragging about his alpha/leadership qualities in a forum filled with teenagers. (By the way, you haven't defined alpha yet)

It's important in this thread because the idea of the initial post is to increase one's social network and not decrease it. The idea is to give, as well as receive. The idea is NOT to . . ."durh, hurh hurh, I assume everybody needs me. I assume women need me . . .I am the prize . . .durh, hurh hurh." This is the OPPOSITE of the message in the initial post. (By the way, you have no fucking idea what value means) If you don't know it, why not just admit it, google it, or ask for it? Why make yourself the moron of the forum by digging further? Really bad fucking habits . . .

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Don't limit yourself by networking with only those in your socio-economic, cultural backgrounds. This is probably the biggest mistake young kids make, jocks hanging out with jocks, musicians hanging out with musicians, etc . . .

A younger friend of mine, a recent college graduate with high marks who happens to be the son of a prominent politician told me that he just met a guy from a royal family from the Middle East. When I told him to invite this friend to a night out, his reply was that this fellow was at another level (financially) and that he wouldn't be interested in a night out to a normal bar/club. This is nonsense. . . these are just silly assumptions. Everybody enjoys a night out with friends, especially if you have the ability to wing and assist in making new friends. (especially female friends)

If you're young enough to be looking for a University, one of the most important things you can look for is the strength of the school's alumni group. And by this, I don't mean some prominent old rich guy that they put on a pedestal to make the University look good. More important are the active members who go to all the games, meetings, outings, and who mingle with the school's student base . . . all for the love of the school. If you're in a school already, PARTAKE in ALL those events. Join the alumni committee and add VALUE to the group. If you've already graduated, it's not too late. If you're writer, contribute to the newsletters. If you're in software, do something with their website. If you're a decent public speaker, participate in those gatherings and MC those events. Seek people out. Prominent members of the alumni group will always be thankful for this . . .and they will assist you in your personal endeavors as well.

^This is something I discovered . . . and it allowed me to work in foreign countries, meet and work with some of the most recognizable names in various industries, and even party in ways that would make rock stars jealous. . . 5k bar bills, VIP rooms in clubs with champagne magnums, VIP in exclusive golf clubs where the club guy fits you out with shoes, clubs, and follows you to the first tee to make sure everything was to your liking, $200 cognac shots . . . All of this is accessible to many people but they just don't realize it because a few dots need to be connected first.
@Kasabi ^ Excellent advise, i made the mistake of pleding for a frat when in college which left a bad taste on my mouth, i never joined, i wish i would have done the alumni stuff and what you suggested kassabi, actually my brother did something similar and till today he is enjoying the rewards...


@stelar, Back to the 19 three some bragging... wowow! "A RICH MAN DOES NOT HAVE TO GO AROUND TELLING PEOPLE HE IS RICH"

here, kasabi, i don't understand you dude, californication ask me a question, i said i did not want to join a fraternity cause of the pledging, i said that it felt wrong some dudes make me doing things i did not feel right doing, for example drinking from a hose, something inside of me told me get the fuck out, we were 4 pledges doing the same shit, i use the words leadership and alpha, i said i made a mistake, and that your were right no need for those 2 words but we are in a pua forum so we use words like alpha, leadership, afc, dhv etc, actually i am a natural i just use those words here as lingo to talk to other dudes in the forum... Value, who cares what it is i assume my value, sorry if you can not understand, but i assume when it comes to women and clients, they need me i do not need them i have a superior product, or i am a superior dude... Anyways, i am just trying to figure out why you insist, in nip picking and putting people down, you are a horrible role model and is sad a lot of newbies look up to you, i always been respectful, but is not worth it dude, you are the short dude at the club always picking up the fight... Anyways, as i said you are the karl robe of pick up, why are you so angry, this is my experience with angry dudes, is call the angry dude theory:

1.- short height or member (the dudes at the clubs always picking up fights)
2.- not getting laid in a long time( a lot of testosterone build up, could make someone very angry and short temper)

3.- lack of success, in life, biz and specially pick up

4.- Envy...

5.- all of the above


i choose number 5... other than that, one day my goal is too understand what you intellectually write kasabi, your level of mental masturbation, is the highest level i ever seen, but that is a remarkably achievement other than that take your intellectual and pick up theory, and please some day go out on the field and try it... cool! love you dude!

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Why do you need to live like a rock star?

Maybe I'm crazy, but I've always had one goal in life that stayed ahead of all others: self-sufficiency. I want enough that I can take care of myself without any help, and forcing other people, be they family or taxpayers, to bear my own burden. I take a lot of pride in paying for myself, which is in direct conflict with this idea. I dont' need bottle service at bars, or a sports car, or a mansion. Don't get me wrong, I went to a casino last Saturday and had a terrific time. But I don't see the true link between pickup and a "rockstar" life.
I agree with the importance of 'self sufficiency'. My question is "HOW"?

What will you do? How will you strategize? How will you achieve self-sufficiency? Most professional careers are launched at a 'skill level'. You're hired for your ability to actually do something. A few years later, you get promoted and they wedge a few guys under you. Now it's skills + management. Few years after that, no matter what you began with, you no longer actually those 'skills', you merely manage the people to do those skills. Almost all 'higher level' work requires social/networking skills. (Learning these skills is one of the important lessons of the initial post)

The idea isn't to run around begging for freebies. The idea is to learn "VALUE". What do others value? What do you have to offer? What do they have to offer? How can a bond be created by complete strangers? Without an exchange of value, no relationship succeeds. It simply does not work. When people do not exchange 'energy', there is nothing in the relationship for them nor is there anything invested into it. In my mind, learning this is the path to 'self sufficiency'.


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ALSO I DO NOT KNOW ANY DUDE THAT IS GOOD WITH WOMEN THAT IS NOT A LEADER OR HAS A LOT OF ALPHA QUALITIES ONE WHICH IS TO LEAD..
I have to disagree with this, most naturals I know are actually the artist type, not trying to be "alpha", not trying to lead or prove anything to anybody. But their reality is so strong, they live in their own world and the girl gets a real roller-coaster ride when she steps in. I know that the "provider" type of a guy is attractive, the successful, the "leader". But the artist is just as attractive as a lover and there isn't an inch of a leader in him.

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