I open great, I neg, I run DHV routines, I run DHV stories but I'm not getting attraction. During the day my sets run really good but my club game is total shit. I think I'm conveying maybe Too much playfulness. Honestly I think I'm having too much fun. When I ran into this a year ago I focused heavily on being more of a dick and I think it worked. It's hard to gauge so I want some input.

Tonight we hit the club and things were going really decent. I brought out a pivot I'd picked up last weekend. She was not really attractive and I have my doubts whether is was even a good idea to have her out with me. Do you guys think a bigger girl is better then no girl? I'm really not sure.

Anyways. We got in and right away I started opening sets. I'll hit up everybody and start conversations. I listened to Adam Lyons talk about this and he said that working the room is optimal. Just talk to everyone. But I'm finding that my interactions just trail off. The conversation dwindles, the people get bored and turn off.

When I open all female sets I get great hooks but ZERO attraction. I think I'm over gaming and coming in with too much energy.

The first set I opened was an hb8 and an hb9. set opened, I negged the target, ran the mouse race DHV routine ANNNND nothing. No IOI's notta. I tried another DHV story about me and my ex in Banff and I got IOD's. Also I'm pretty sure I have a smile on my face all the time. This is so fucking hard! haha Cuz I honestly love this shit! I'm having so much fun, I'm talking to everyone, running games and gambits and fuckin around but I think I'm losing attraction because I'm having too much fun gaming.... UGH!

I'll hit the dance floor. Dance around, have a lot of fun and girls will leave their group to dance with me. The frustrating part is that I think I know what I'm missing. I'm lacking that raw Alpha vibe. I haven't hit the club since I met my last girl friend. We split up on New Years so tonight was my second night out.

What should I do? I think I'm coming across as the dancing monkey. I come in with games and gambits and laughs but that doesn't equal attraction. What's the subtlety I'm missing?

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Try open up to them after running your stories, ask them some deep questions like their childhood and their passions, and talk about yourself. That will build some solid connections. You are definitely on the right track, don't give up keep going out your brain will figure it out for you what will work.

It cost me about 1 hour to approach with no results and rejections, but after that 1 hour I can feel the doncareness and girls start to respond better to me, I was a dance monkey before as well but now I don't even go close to the dance floor unless I asked the girl who I approached to dance.

Just keep hitting up those sets and minimize the time in between sets 1 hour you're superman.

You're coming across as a dancing monkey rather than a sexual threat. You're right, you need to tone it down and learn to build more sexual tension rather than being too playful and high energy. Here's a good article by 60 years of challenge that explains why the things you're doing all kill sexual tension (which is why girls don't see you as a sexual guy): 60s-anti-manifesto-must-read-vt72952.html?highlight=