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Just want to say thanks to Slywalker. What a great post! Shame! He is not active anymore these days.


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Well I was born in 1987, I'm just more into Iron Maiden, Manowar, Judas Priest and the like, but I'm probably of your generation or close. :wink:

I wasn't keen on nu metal tbh. :P Ah well at least its not emo.
could you link some pics of outfits you wear cause i'm about into the same style as you yet i always look bad when i wear my heavy metal outfits so i usualy stick with fancy shirts...


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Just wanna say you're sticky got me to register to this forum, and as many others I want to thank you. Small question: i really love the "don't you hate it when random people talk to you? " opener and the follow up, but I find difficulty continuing the conversation afterwards. It could be something situational, but it's off-topic to most things. Any advice?
Thanks, BK
That's why my opener was commonly something simple like:

So...what's up?
Take a pause for about 3sec
Then I comment on something about her style or something she is doing in a question type way, get her to talk about herself in seconds, and all of a sudden she finds you interesting.

Funny how the female brain works haha

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Just want to say thanks to Slywalker. What a great post! Shame! He is not active anymore these days.
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Just want to say thanks to Slywalker. What a great post! Shame! He is not active anymore these days.
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slyyyyyyyy :)

I used to read your posts like 2 years ago

hows married life?


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Just want to say thanks to Slywalker. What a great post! Shame! He is not active anymore these days.
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slyyyyyyyy :)

I used to read your posts like 2 years ago

hows married life?
Sorry for the extremely slow reply. But life is great, thanks for asking.
The one thing I wanna say to everyone is; don't stress in to a relationship or in to marriage for that matter. Take your time, live your life. And when that right girl comes along, you will just know.

I was very fortunate, I got to play the field, grow as a pick up artist, enjoy being single and on top of my game and then meet the perfect partner.

Enjoy life guys!

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First I want to say Sly that you are my personal hero!

I've tried to adopt some of your techniques and I finally got out there and got some action! I do have to say though that I have tried NLP and carefully measured my results. I have concluded that it's just a well orchestrated lie and simply a scam-- like faith healing.

On a more positive note, I would like to say it has some takeaway points. As Derren Brown said, 'NLP is very much about obvious but missed points'. Techniques like mirroring make the other person feel like you are truly listening to them; it's no wonder it builds rapport. Just be careful because it can also have you acting like a clown.

You have helped my life out and bunch though and I am forever indebted to you. You gave me a good starting point and I have made a ton of progress. I hope you continue to have a successful marriage and maybe someday I too can join the monogamy club. Until then cheers! :D


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First I want to say Sly that you are my personal hero!

I've tried to adopt some of your techniques and I finally got out there and got some action! I do have to say though that I have tried NLP and carefully measured my results. I have concluded that it's just a well orchestrated lie and simply a scam-- like faith healing.

On a more positive note, I would like to say it has some takeaway points. As Derren Brown said, 'NLP is very much about obvious but missed points'. Techniques like mirroring make the other person feel like you are truly listening to them; it's no wonder it builds rapport. Just be careful because it can also have you acting like a clown.

You have helped my life out and bunch though and I am forever indebted to you. You gave me a good starting point and I have made a ton of progress. I hope you continue to have a successful marriage and maybe someday I too can join the monogamy club. Until then cheers! :D
Hi and thank you for your kind words.
I would like to add that NLP is not a scam, you just can't depend on it as the one solution to getting laid like many people do. The NLP books I have read have contained very useful exercises to build up your own self esteem, trust your actions, cold read people, connect with people faster and being able to build a stronger connection with them. So I am sure you can see how this can be useful in pick up. In a sense, faith healing isn't a scam either, because if you strongly enough believe something will help you, it will. I am not saying it will cure cancer, but it could definitely improve the quality of life of a cancer patient if they believed in something positive rather than waiting for death. See the difference?
It is very simple, if you approach a girl with a mindset of being rejected, I can promise you that you will get rejected. But if you approach her with the confidence of a movie star, she will most likely be impressed by you.
People can really pick up a vibe from you about how you feel and how you carry yourself, that's why simple exercises that will make you feel like a rock star are so important.
Towards the end of my career I had built up so much positive attitude that every time I walked in to a club or a bar, people would turn around in a "who's that? I feel like I should know him" kinda way because I walked in and acted like I owned the place.
It is important to come off as being a cool and yet nice guy rather than a snobby jerk, but it is very important to demonstrate that you believe in yourself!

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After a few months on the forum, I found your post and I must say it's mind blowing.
Great job!

I do have a question about AA killers though.
What would u recommend?
I'm in Uni SPAM with no time to spend on PU throught the weekdays, but I do have time every weekend when I go back home.
So what I want to know is: How should I spend my time?
I've got most of the "theory" down but still no in field exp.
Should I go to bars, go out on the street and day game?

Thanks for the awesome post.


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After a few months on the forum, I found your post and I must say it's mind blowing.
Great job!

I do have a question about AA killers though.
What would u recommend?
I'm in Uni SPAM with no time to spend on PU throught the weekdays, but I do have time every weekend when I go back home.
So what I want to know is: How should I spend my time?
I've got most of the "theory" down but still no in field exp.
Should I go to bars, go out on the street and day game?

Thanks for the awesome post.
Hi, theory is always good but it is useless without experience. I'm sure you have plenty of chances to practice when you are in Uni as well, every interaction is meant to teach you something, every moment will gain you experience. There is no secret trick to reduce approach anxiety, you just have to approach. However, the practice subjects does not have to be sexy chicks, they could be anyone from bums to cashiers. The trick is to talk to everyone, learn how to interact with all types of personalities.
Try this for a challenge, make every stranger you meet next week smile, laugh or share something about themselves. People will talk to you if they find you interesting, and if you can make them do one of these three things, you have broken their mental shield towards you. Again, it does not have to be just girls, it could be anyone!
Ignore the fact that you think you have approach anxiety and get out and approach!
Best of luck!

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After a few months on the forum, I found your post and I must say it's mind blowing.
Great job!

I do have a question about AA killers though.
What would u recommend?
I'm in Uni SPAM with no time to spend on PU throught the weekdays, but I do have time every weekend when I go back home.
So what I want to know is: How should I spend my time?
I've got most of the "theory" down but still no in field exp.
Should I go to bars, go out on the street and day game?

Thanks for the awesome post.
Hi, theory is always good but it is useless without experience. I'm sure you have plenty of chances to practice when you are in Uni as well, every interaction is meant to teach you something, every moment will gain you experience. There is no secret trick to reduce approach anxiety, you just have to approach. However, the practice subjects does not have to be sexy chicks, they could be anyone from bums to cashiers. The trick is to talk to everyone, learn how to interact with all types of personalities.
Try this for a challenge, make every stranger you meet next week smile, laugh or share something about themselves. People will talk to you if they find you interesting, and if you can make them do one of these three things, you have broken their mental shield towards you. Again, it does not have to be just girls, it could be anyone!
Ignore the fact that you think you have approach anxiety and get out and approach!
Best of luck!

Thanks for the advice.
The thing is that I don't have AA in that sense. I am by far one of the most "well known students" in all my classes. Rarely do I walk around on campus and not get even 1 "hello" from someone.
When I say I have AA I specifically mean in the approaching girls context in terms of pick up. I wouldn't hesitate to approach a girl if it wasn't related to pick up.
For instance, I can ask a pretty girl I see on the street for directions. I can't initiate a conversation with a random girl on the street knowing that I'm hitting on her.


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good stuff!

you mentioned not being able to find a structured guide to kinoing, here's my take. (also can find some of these pointers on the web, just gotta look deep enough)

basically, kino can be broken down into three bits. These are guidelines, not rules.

firstly, there's the unconcious touching, e.g. brush of shoulder, accidental touches, etc.

and also more concious touching, such as a tap on the shoulder, etc. basically everything that's socially acceptible without causing awkwardness.As a general rule of thumb, these acts should be performed within ~ a minute of meeting an HB. to register on an unconscious level that you are not afraid of touching, etc.

Again, there are exceptions, such as a really conservative girl, or a girl who is very open about touching, i.e. she initiates.


Then after that, you move upwards to the next level of kinoing, basically anything that friends do to each other; playful punching, head bumps, hi-fives, etc.
These register on a conscious level, and are used once she's used to you on the unconscious level. A good indicator to see whether or not you're moving from this area over to a sexual area is the "gay test". at any point during the interaction, say to yourself: would i do this to another guy? If yes, then you're fine. if no, then you have moved into the next and final stage of kino


Last stage is basically intimate and sexual touching, kissing, all the good stuff. (I dont believe i need to give many pointers in this area, as you're better off letting each other's bodies find what to do. However, a good thing to do is to find her sensitive points (inside of legs, nape of the neck), and work off those.)

The key to escalating smoothly with kino is to either work it into the conversation, i.e. if i say a girl's short, I'd touch her head, or if she's short enough, turn her around and rest my head on top of hers.
Or just not draw attention to it, e.g. casually put ur arm around her, but still be talking about what you were before. If done right, she won't pay attention to it either.

However, kino, like all else in PUA, is not an exact science, and odds are, sometime you'll come across a girl who does point out your kinoing in a very rude way, e.g. what the fuck do you think ur doing?
Not going into causes (bitch shield, ASD, artist read the signs wrong, etc.), but the goto answer is to just blur it over, i.e. touch her clevage, she asks what you're doing, basically act like it's meant to happen, and pretend you don't know what she's talking about. Never under any circumstances apologise.

During kino escalation, although you've moved up a level, always keep the touching a level below going, i.e. although you have made out, still be holding hands whenever possible, unless an opportunity presents itself for you to do something more intimate. The reason for this is; it helps build constant rapport (think water trickling into a basin), but also, in the event she rejects kino of a higher level, you shut it off. completely. no more touching of ANY sort, so she feels that loss. Then you reinitiate back to the level you were at.



That help? feel free to + me if it did. otherwise comment on where you thought I missed.

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good stuff!

you mentioned not being able to find a structured guide to kinoing, here's my take. (also can find some of these pointers on the web, just gotta look deep enough)

basically, kino can be broken down into three bits. These are guidelines, not rules.

firstly, there's the unconcious touching, e.g. brush of shoulder, accidental touches, etc.

and also more concious touching, such as a tap on the shoulder, etc. basically everything that's socially acceptible without causing awkwardness.As a general rule of thumb, these acts should be performed within ~ a minute of meeting an HB. to register on an unconscious level that you are not afraid of touching, etc.

Again, there are exceptions, such as a really conservative girl, or a girl who is very open about touching, i.e. she initiates.


Then after that, you move upwards to the next level of kinoing, basically anything that friends do to each other; playful punching, head bumps, hi-fives, etc.
These register on a conscious level, and are used once she's used to you on the unconscious level. A good indicator to see whether or not you're moving from this area over to a sexual area is the "gay test". at any point during the interaction, say to yourself: would i do this to another guy? If yes, then you're fine. if no, then you have moved into the next and final stage of kino


Last stage is basically intimate and sexual touching, kissing, all the good stuff. (I dont believe i need to give many pointers in this area, as you're better off letting each other's bodies find what to do. However, a good thing to do is to find her sensitive points (inside of legs, nape of the neck), and work off those.)

The key to escalating smoothly with kino is to either work it into the conversation, i.e. if i say a girl's short, I'd touch her head, or if she's short enough, turn her around and rest my head on top of hers.
Or just not draw attention to it, e.g. casually put ur arm around her, but still be talking about what you were before. If done right, she won't pay attention to it either.

However, kino, like all else in PUA, is not an exact science, and odds are, sometime you'll come across a girl who does point out your kinoing in a very rude way, e.g. what the fuck do you think ur doing?
Not going into causes (bitch shield, ASD, artist read the signs wrong, etc.), but the goto answer is to just blur it over, i.e. touch her clevage, she asks what you're doing, basically act like it's meant to happen, and pretend you don't know what she's talking about. Never under any circumstances apologise.

During kino escalation, although you've moved up a level, always keep the touching a level below going, i.e. although you have made out, still be holding hands whenever possible, unless an opportunity presents itself for you to do something more intimate. The reason for this is; it helps build constant rapport (think water trickling into a basin), but also, in the event she rejects kino of a higher level, you shut it off. completely. no more touching of ANY sort, so she feels that loss. Then you reinitiate back to the level you were at.



That help? feel free to + me if it did. otherwise comment on where you thought I missed.
This is very off topic and you obviously haven't read the thread, I have recommended Vin Dicarlo's "escalation ladder" to the guys who need help with kino escalation as it is helpful, organized and very simple.

You are just confusing people, this thread is about teaching guys how simple it is to pick up and lay women, not giving them more shit to memorize.

I always say that pick up is easy and you don't have to memorize 100 books, routines and methods.

Please guys, disregard this post keep things simple, the simpler it is, the smaller the chance of fucking things up, in other words, simple tactics = success with women!

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After a few months on the forum, I found your post and I must say it's mind blowing.
Great job!

I do have a question about AA killers though.
What would u recommend?
I'm in Uni SPAM with no time to spend on PU throught the weekdays, but I do have time every weekend when I go back home.
So what I want to know is: How should I spend my time?
I've got most of the "theory" down but still no in field exp.
Should I go to bars, go out on the street and day game?

Thanks for the awesome post.
Hi, theory is always good but it is useless without experience. I'm sure you have plenty of chances to practice when you are in Uni as well, every interaction is meant to teach you something, every moment will gain you experience. There is no secret trick to reduce approach anxiety, you just have to approach. However, the practice subjects does not have to be sexy chicks, they could be anyone from bums to cashiers. The trick is to talk to everyone, learn how to interact with all types of personalities.
Try this for a challenge, make every stranger you meet next week smile, laugh or share something about themselves. People will talk to you if they find you interesting, and if you can make them do one of these three things, you have broken their mental shield towards you. Again, it does not have to be just girls, it could be anyone!
Ignore the fact that you think you have approach anxiety and get out and approach!
Best of luck!

Thanks for the advice.
The thing is that I don't have AA in that sense. I am by far one of the most "well known students" in all my classes. Rarely do I walk around on campus and not get even 1 "hello" from someone.
When I say I have AA I specifically mean in the approaching girls context in terms of pick up. I wouldn't hesitate to approach a girl if it wasn't related to pick up.
For instance, I can ask a pretty girl I see on the street for directions. I can't initiate a conversation with a random girl on the street knowing that I'm hitting on her.
If you were my client I would call you an easy case, the hardest part is to teach people to talk to strangers, if you have that down you are going to become great at pick up.

You probably just have a small mental block about bringing your game into your conversations with strangers..

As an example, one of my first jobs was to stand around in a shopping mall trying to sell cell phones to people. I found it very hard to approach random people and talk about cell phone prices. I found it very easy to approach random people and chit chat about everyday stuff. So what I ended up doing was to approach them with a question about where the bookstore was or whatever came to my mind, once I opened them for conversation I could ask them "hey by the way, what cell phone are you using, I can hook you up". And it is very similar with an indirect approach in pick up.

Even though I prefer ballsy direct approaches I still highly recommend indirect approaches, they work and they are easier before you build up skill and confidence.

First of all, do the newbie mission that chief posted in the general question section.
Step two, once you are talking to a random girl you haven't met before, talk to her about anything BUT picking her up. Then ask her, "Hey you seem like a nice girl, but I gotta run, we should talk again some time, give me your number and perhaps we will continue this conversation later"

Notice how you order her to give away her number, never ask for anything, beggars ask winners order. And how you say, perhaps not "I'm a creepy guy that will call you everyday" now she won't be afraid to give away her number, she is completely disarmed.

Now, what do you have to lose? She says no? Fuck that, move on, you weren't affected at all other than that you just gained experience and rejection immunity!

You could also ask for her email but I don't recommend it, most girls won't go out with a guy they only gave their email too.

I have noticed that this works best if you interrupt her mid-conversation, the girl will get a feeling that you haven't finished your conversation with her and that she needs to speak to you again, if she is done talking, chances are she feels done with this "stranger".

This is a very low key indirect approach, once you become more experienced I recommend more ballsy pick ups but this is a great way to start.

Also try to get her to share her opinions about some topic she is interested in, because if you interrupt her at that point she will be really easy to get. Girls love talking about themselves and their interests.

Let me know how it goes!

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