how do i talk to a girl who LJBF me?



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:24 am 
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so i got the LJBF about a week ago. the reason is because she dont like a player which im really not i have just gone through a wierd phase. anyway i asked her if she wanted to hang out and she was busy and said if we were to hang out she would prefer it was just as friends.
after that though it was still a little flirty (over txt) and i know she is attracted and had alot of fun dating me (we have friends in common who told me).
so i want to hang out with this girl "as friends""and build comfort and attraction through being the flirty bastard that i am.
my only querie is how do i ASK her to hang out "as friends" without giving off the vibe that i am trying to do what im trying to do....?[/b]

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:30 am 
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either be more straight about what you want, or back off from her,

going all indirect about this, then weaseling your way in is going to make things trickier for you and is more likely to make buyers remourse worse if you don't play your cards well

either back off and give this girl a bit of space then hit her up like nothing ever happened, don't put the pressure on her until in person, then start flirting and escalating

or, be more honest about this and just don't expect anything from her, express how you feel without a need for reciprocation or expectation for reciprocation and don't chase the validation when you don't get it, when you don't get it, back to the other option and cycle them together until you get a meetup and then you can escalate in person

but don't ask to hang out ''as friends'' then start escalating, either leave it undefined, or define it as the opposite, being incongruent will just piss her off


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:00 am 
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Kasabi wrote something on this ages ago
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‘Guys who call themselves players are quick to say NEXT!, "oh what? NO SEX? HA! No FRIENDS THEN!!!!

Instead...

Next time, whenever YOU MEET, you crank on the sexual shit like never before. You can do this because hell, "We are great friends for ever and she already said No to you, so now we can be open to each other . .

You make it seem as there is ABSOLUTELY no pressure for anything because again . . . "hell, we're friends for life remember?"

You call her up, tell her to come over her . . . friends go over each others houses to watch movies. Right? Sit close, arm around her shoulder . . . high fives and kisses on the cheek . . . You chat about SEX. You chat about orgasms. You chat about your dating life. See, it's ALL RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER but you absolutely hold back on anything further. Take her hand . . . hold it . . . and put in on your thigh, somewhat close to your cock. Just laugh and watch the movie. You do this right and usually, it's enough for her to go grab your junk and go down on her knees.

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WRESTLE! Yeah. . . You're not going to give her a body slam. Escalate some teasing. You've been with her for ages, you know how to get her going. She's going to punch your arm. Then you, "Oh, don't make me open up a can of my whoop ass!" Grab, tickle, escalate. Every move from every minor break should escalate closer to her punani. I'm very serious. And this isn't some "Well, I didn't mean to touch you there, sorry." This should eventually get to grab her by both ass cheeks lift her up and drop her on your sofa/bed. She'll know EVERYTHING. All you're doing is giving her an easy path to suck your cock. This should be heart racing, vigorous exercise. Then you come to an immediate stop. Stare at her eyes . . . lips . . . wait for it . . . then caveman. She'll resist at first. But this is something she's thought of all the time already. 100% she'll give in

Girls are often BEST friends with guys they have fucked. They feel more comfortable around them, they feel safer around them, they are more emotional around them. (The only reason why you might not hear about these cases is that "bad" stories are told 10 times more than good stories.)

After all that and it doesn’t happen, well, you just gained one "somewhat aloof, coldish" female friend.
Also, Johnny S:
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IF YOU COMMUNICATE TO A FEMALE FRIEND IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS:

A ) YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN BEING HER BOYFRIEND, nor do you want her as 'your Girlfriend' -- 'cuz while the respect/friendship/admiration is there in abundance, the chemistry isn't a fit - there's no 'Romantic Crush' aspect for how you feel about her - Just true, real, justifiable appreciation, and that's enough!

B ) YOU ARE ALREADY HER FRIEND which makes her much more important and interesting than just someone you'd like to have sex with - and you wouldn't change that for the world; BUT.... You are a boy, and she is a girl, and that's a nice arrangement.

Try saying something like this to her: "You know I would NEVER fuck-you-over; ...But I'd gladly fuck you over-and-over!"
(I have used this line for a decade with fantastic success - it's light and cute and funny and reassuring all at once)

C) YOU DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO INTERFERE WITH HER PURSUIT OF 'MR. RIGHT' nor would you stop pursuing and sleeping with other girls... in fact, you'd appreciate any pointers or suggestions which would help your Game, and of course you'll be more than happy to hook her up with new guys you think might suit her...

D) YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE THIS WITH HER - and there's truly no urgency at all - nothing will change between you either way; at least, not negatively ...but you know you'd be a fool not to let her know that you'd enjoy having friendly-fun-without-strings with her, and that she can rely upon you for non-judgmental acceptance.

REMEMBER, that's what's happening here: YOU ARE OFFERING HER SOMETHING SHE WANTS, and at a price she can afford!
(ie, fun sex with someone who will stick around, be loyal (though not exclusive!) and trustworthy, and IS her friend-for-real.)

My comfort in this Frame, the notion that WOMEN LOVE SEX, and would have lots more of it if they felt confident that their partners weren't going to disappear OR become Cling-ons, is absolute.

One caveat, again - YOU CAN ONLY OFFER THIS IF YOU TRULY WILL REMAIN FRIENDS WITH THE GIRL, EITHER WAY:
She might not immediately accept your offer; she might not agree for months, or until someone she's seeing flakes on her, breaks up with her, or whatever; or maybe NEVER. But if you are SINCERE, and nothing changes either way between you, you will rise in her esteem and SHE WILL consider it, subconsciously as well as consciously.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:06 pm 
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Kasabi sounds like he might be onto something there, only I'm not good friends with this girl. We only hung out two or three times. If I ask her to chill I'm going to feel like she will have a wall up against that or something?
It would be perfect to organise something with the mutual friend but she works 90 hour weeks so its really hard to find time to do anything with her.

And don't worry pumpington I am going to look for other girls aswel, I just feel with this one there could maybe be something there if I can get past what I feel is her testing to see if I was only talking to her again looking for a quick hookup or something like that.

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