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The therapy session was for myself. I poured my heart into the last 3 phrases.

Some women are looking for a ONS because they are desperate , not because they are already liberated.

If my posts are causing a problem then I will no longer post here
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There is no problems here dude, I am just trying to wrap my head around how your technique can be so consistent. I mis-interpreted your words, you are generally cocky so I assumed you thought you were giving us therapy.

I am not one to judge against anyones technique as a lot of people don't agree with my methods. But I do know women very well, I know women that just want to fuck, I know women that need their sexuality brought out of them, I know skitzo's good girls, freaks, doms/submissives...nympho's, etc etc. I have tried similar techniques to yours and never had anywhere near that ratio even when a woman is in shock, her first reaction is to be defensive. Even women that are out to just get laid, still have a defensive posture that shock and awe alone will not overcome.

I never once said I do not believe your technique can work, but I cannot believe it can work as consistently as you claim. Even if you have super power screening.

It just simply goes against the grain of a woman's thought process( on average) And since you are only screening for a minute or two, one can only assume women on average.

You must be an extremely good looking man. This would be the only logic to me. I do appreciate your presence in this forum as I have stated before. I do like your cockyness as well. It's great for pick up.

No need to not comment anymore, but perhaps you can fill me in more on the physcological aspect of your game. Perhaps I am missing something.
I AM NOT COCKY. NOT ON THIS FORUM AND NOT WITH WOMEN. DEEP DOWN INSIDE I BELIEVE I AM REALLY FUCKED UP AND USE THIS FORUM TO UNLOAD THIS "BAGGAGE"

I GIVE WOMEN THE IMPRESSION THAT I AM THE MOST OPEN PERSON IN THE WORLD. THAT IS WHY I SAY WHAT I SAY AND GIVE AFTERWARDS SPACE.

IT IS NOT GAME.

PEOPLE HERE ARE THANKING ME NOT BECAUSE THEY GOT LAID USING WHAT I TOLD THEM TO USE , BUT BECAUSE IT MADE THEIR LIFE HAPPIER AND ABOVE ELSE SIMPLER.

THEY DO NO HAVE TO LEARN GAME. THEY LEARN TO BE A MAN.

LOOKS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.

NEXT TIME YOU GO TO A CLUB OR BAR USE IT FOR YOURSELF.

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I think ONS and threesomes have very little to do with each other. In this day and age, so many girls go out to "pick up a guy" and get laid... that's so common. Threesomes too, but of course not in the same way. But once you sexed the girl and you can talk freely about everything, it's very easy to offer a threesome and I'd say 20%-40% of the girls would be into exploring it. You start by "whats the craziest place you had sex?" then "did you ever have a threesome?" then "what do you say we go out one night, pretend we are a couple and try to pick up a girl?" TONS of girls would be into it. In fact, when I opened a girl and she blew me off by saying "I'm lesbian" or something similar, I said "great! lets pick up a girl together". I did this twice, in both cases they said "cool" and we walked around trying it for a few minutes... but there was not enough connection between us and they eventually wondered off.

Totally agree, last weekend i had a girl tell me"i do not want you to be scare, but do you want to fuck" i say i am not scare that is fine, then she said "with my husband" i say oh that is fine(at this point i was scared, and did not want to do a 3 some with the husband but see how much she would give me at the club), i was yesterday in a swingclub and i pull out my swinclub card,she said she was planning on going, now this is the part when i got scare and declined "have you tried to dicks in a pussy" hahaha!

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Haha... I'd go for it.............. I'll try anything once, as long as he doesn't touch me.


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@Stelar - when you say 1/10 flake rate, do you mean that 1 out of 10 of the girls you "shock and awe" don't go home with you? Are you claiming 90% success rate with this? It seems a little excessive, so what do you exactly mean by that?

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It's after 3 am and she is playing with her hair looking left and right while semi-dancing in her tight jeans.

How many flakes do you think I get ?

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@Stelar - when you say 1/10 flake rate, do you mean that 1 out of 10 of the girls you "shock and awe" don't go home with you? Are you claiming 90% success rate with this? It seems a little excessive, so what do you exactly mean by that?

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It's after 3 am and she is playing with her hair looking left and right while semi-dancing in her tight jeans.

How many flakes do you think I get ?
I know what you mean... there is this girl at every bar :-) But come on, 9 out of 10 is not possible... lets be realistic. 9 out of 10? Are you serious?


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The therapy session was for myself. I poured my heart into the last 3 phrases.

Some women are looking for a ONS because they are desperate , not because they are already liberated.

If my posts are causing a problem then I will no longer post here
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There is no problems here dude, I am just trying to wrap my head around how your technique can be so consistent. I mis-interpreted your words, you are generally cocky so I assumed you thought you were giving us therapy.

I am not one to judge against anyones technique as a lot of people don't agree with my methods. But I do know women very well, I know women that just want to fuck, I know women that need their sexuality brought out of them, I know skitzo's good girls, freaks, doms/submissives...nympho's, etc etc. I have tried similar techniques to yours and never had anywhere near that ratio even when a woman is in shock, her first reaction is to be defensive. Even women that are out to just get laid, still have a defensive posture that shock and awe alone will not overcome.

I never once said I do not believe your technique can work, but I cannot believe it can work as consistently as you claim. Even if you have super power screening.

It just simply goes against the grain of a woman's thought process( on average) And since you are only screening for a minute or two, one can only assume women on average.

You must be an extremely good looking man. This would be the only logic to me. I do appreciate your presence in this forum as I have stated before. I do like your cockyness as well. It's great for pick up.

No need to not comment anymore, but perhaps you can fill me in more on the physcological aspect of your game. Perhaps I am missing something.
I AM NOT COCKY. NOT ON THIS FORUM AND NOT WITH WOMEN. DEEP DOWN INSIDE I BELIEVE I AM REALLY FUCKED UP AND USE THIS FORUM TO UNLOAD THIS "BAGGAGE"

I GIVE WOMEN THE IMPRESSION THAT I AM THE MOST OPEN PERSON IN THE WORLD. THAT IS WHY I SAY WHAT I SAY AND GIVE AFTERWARDS SPACE.

IT IS NOT GAME.

PEOPLE HERE ARE THANKING ME NOT BECAUSE THEY GOT LAID USING WHAT I TOLD THEM TO USE , BUT BECAUSE IT MADE THEIR LIFE HAPPIER AND ABOVE ELSE SIMPLER.

THEY DO NO HAVE TO LEARN GAME. THEY LEARN TO BE A MAN.

LOOKS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.

NEXT TIME YOU GO TO A CLUB OR BAR USE IT FOR YOURSELF.

Stelar, it will seem i am picking on you but i am not dude, this is the problem before, you kind of stop it lately, you were really bragging and talking about you own system which is good but is so identical at ciaram here:

shock-and-awe-technique-by-ciaran-not-a ... =shock+awe

and that is find cause my style, gunwitch, 60 yoc, and other are similar.. but then some of the lines like we are both adults blah blah, is sounds too much like 60 yoc... With that being said i like your stuff and your post when you are not bragging, cool dude!

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@Stelar - when you say 1/10 flake rate, do you mean that 1 out of 10 of the girls you "shock and awe" don't go home with you? Are you claiming 90% success rate with this? It seems a little excessive, so what do you exactly mean by that?

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It's after 3 am and she is playing with her hair looking left and right while semi-dancing in her tight jeans.

How many flakes do you think I get ?
I know what you mean... there is this girl at every bar :-) But come on, 9 out of 10 is not possible... lets be realistic. 9 out of 10? Are you serious?
Yes because I use it when and on who should be used in the first place.

If she is not there to fuck them I use the "know you" variation.

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I never said that all of it was original , yes it is similar with S/a , apocalypse opener , push/pull and mode-one or Zan Perrion.

IT'S ALL OF THEM TOGETHER IN SOMETHING THAT SUITS MY GOALS.

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I never said that all of it was original , yes it is similar with S/a , apocalypse opener , push/pull and mode-one or Zan Perrion.

IT'S ALL OF THEM TOGETHER IN SOMETHING THAT SUITS MY GOALS.

Then i apologize! good job! :D

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OK, I tried this last night. Very "solid" number from between 12:00 - 2:00 (almost a pull) and then from a different venue I " "pulled*** " " (details below) someone home at about 5 am, with a few girls in between I was "testing the water" with.

BUT - I did make a calibration mistake, the one I ""pulled"" was only "half" down for it. I pulled her out in about 15 minutes, with just flat out telling her "I'm going to take you home with me". She was laughing it off but then I pulled her hand to the coat check and told her "fine, so we're going to an after party" or something like that, but it was obvious that we're going to my place. She left the next day at 4 pm (a couple of hours ago), she didn't actually let me bang her but everything else... which kinda sucked :-) It was very interesting... she was 28 years old so it's real strange, she was kind of conservative and yet, I did get her home and naked with me with almost zero effort and within "minutes".

At some point I also told her "I want to exchange orgasms with you" and then added "I'll give you a good exchange rate - I'll let you have two for each of mine" :-) I was still the "good boy" but it was way more aggressive then I usually do it. Also, with all honesty, it was closing time but she wasn't exactly one of those "standing in the corner touching her hair" girls, and when we started dancing she was still there with a friend of hers.

Anyway... I'll get better with time I guess. What I would like to know is how do you know if the resistance is "token" or real. I had PLENTY of girls telling me "we're not going to have sex" which later let me bang them, actually when I think about it this is the first time I had a girl in my bed, NAKED, who didn't let me go all the way with her.... those catholic polish girls... anyway what I'm saying is, I wish I knew how to recognize when the girl is just saying "I won't have sex with you" and when a girl actually MEANS it. I was always able to pass LMR but not with this one... it wasn't "last minutes resistance" it was "12 hours resistance". I tried every trick in the book and nothing worked. She was all naked, oiled up with massage oil, I have my finger inside her, and STILL she didn't let me bang her... WTF. Maybe she felt I was a player and didn't want to be "another number". At one point she told me "I bet you do this every night". By the way - what do you answer to that?

Anyway, thanks SA911, Stelar, Skills for a great thread and I'm still working on a SNL mega post... it will take a few days, maybe more.


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OK, I tried this last night. Very "solid" number from between 12:00 - 2:00 (almost a pull) and then from a different venue I " "pulled*** " " (details below) someone home at about 5 am, with a few girls in between I was "testing the water" with.

BUT - I did make a calibration mistake, the one I ""pulled"" was only "half" down for it. I pulled her out in about 15 minutes, with just flat out telling her "I'm going to take you home with me". She was laughing it off but then I pulled her hand to the coat check and told her "fine, so we're going to an after party" or something like that, but it was obvious that we're going to my place. She left the next day at 4 pm (a couple of hours ago), she didn't actually let me bang her but everything else... which kinda sucked :-) It was very interesting... she was 28 years old so it's real strange, she was kind of conservative and yet, I did get her home and naked with me with almost zero effort and within "minutes".

At some point I also told her "I want to exchange orgasms with you" and then added "I'll give you a good exchange rate - I'll let you have two for each of mine" :-) I was still the "good boy" but it was way more aggressive then I usually do it. Also, with all honesty, it was closing time but she wasn't exactly one of those "standing in the corner touching her hair" girls, and when we started dancing she was still there with a friend of hers.

Anyway... I'll get better with time I guess. What I would like to know is how do you know if the resistance is "token" or real. I had PLENTY of girls telling me "we're not going to have sex" which later let me bang them, actually when I think about it this is the first time I had a girl in my bed, NAKED, who didn't let me go all the way with her.... those catholic polish girls... anyway what I'm saying is, I wish I knew how to recognize when the girl is just saying "I won't have sex with you" and when a girl actually MEANS it. I was always able to pass LMR but not with this one... it wasn't "last minutes resistance" it was "12 hours resistance". I tried every trick in the book and nothing worked. She was all naked, oiled up with massage oil, I have my finger inside her, and STILL she didn't let me bang her... WTF. Maybe she felt I was a player and didn't want to be "another number". At one point she told me "I bet you do this every night". By the way - what do you answer to that?

Anyway, thanks SA911, Stelar, Skills for a great thread and I'm still working on a SNL mega post... it will take a few days, maybe more.
When I told you that I was consistently pulling 8 women a month you didn't believe me.

I suggest wearing a suit every time you go out to clubs.

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I dress real nice, a buttoned shirt and a cardigan on top, rolled sleeves , a $200 jeans, Italian shoes (which make me 2 inch taller) ... don't worry for that part, I know what I'm doing. I was just thinking today about adding a leather jacket. When it comes to "flash game", looks is a huge part.

If I lived in NYC or somewhere like that, and wouldn't be traveling, I would suit myself up like that PUA character in "Stupid Crazy Love"

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2011/07/31 ... ve_240.jpg

If you're into fashion, you should watch it.


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OK, I tried this last night. Very "solid" number from between 12:00 - 2:00 (almost a pull) and then from a different venue I " "pulled*** " " (details below) someone home at about 5 am, with a few girls in between I was "testing the water" with.

BUT - I did make a calibration mistake, the one I ""pulled"" was only "half" down for it. I pulled her out in about 15 minutes, with just flat out telling her "I'm going to take you home with me". She was laughing it off but then I pulled her hand to the coat check and told her "fine, so we're going to an after party" or something like that, but it was obvious that we're going to my place. She left the next day at 4 pm (a couple of hours ago), she didn't actually let me bang her but everything else... which kinda sucked :-) It was very interesting... she was 28 years old so it's real strange, she was kind of conservative and yet, I did get her home and naked with me with almost zero effort and within "minutes".

At some point I also told her "I want to exchange orgasms with you" and then added "I'll give you a good exchange rate - I'll let you have two for each of mine" :-) I was still the "good boy" but it was way more aggressive then I usually do it. Also, with all honesty, it was closing time but she wasn't exactly one of those "standing in the corner touching her hair" girls, and when we started dancing she was still there with a friend of hers.

Anyway... I'll get better with time I guess. What I would like to know is how do you know if the resistance is "token" or real. I had PLENTY of girls telling me "we're not going to have sex" which later let me bang them, actually when I think about it this is the first time I had a girl in my bed, NAKED, who didn't let me go all the way with her.... those catholic polish girls... anyway what I'm saying is, I wish I knew how to recognize when the girl is just saying "I won't have sex with you" and when a girl actually MEANS it. I was always able to pass LMR but not with this one... it wasn't "last minutes resistance" it was "12 hours resistance". I tried every trick in the book and nothing worked. She was all naked, oiled up with massage oil, I have my finger inside her, and STILL she didn't let me bang her... WTF. Maybe she felt I was a player and didn't want to be "another number". At one point she told me "I bet you do this every night". By the way - what do you answer to that?

Anyway, thanks SA911, Stelar, Skills for a great thread and I'm still working on a SNL mega post... it will take a few days, maybe more.

Well i will give you some answers(sexaddict gave me permission to high jack lol), first as you get better with game and you bring a girl back to your house, you will get less and less lmr, to the point where disappears or almost disappears, the reason is as you get better with game you will get the girl so turn on, the she will not be able to think logically, arousal supersedes logic(btw get the book sex god by rose), If you had a girl naked in your bed and you did not fuck, is for one of these reasons or/and a combination:

1.- either she was not AROUSED enough(90%-100% could be this) this arousal can destroy any shit test/ any logical conviction ANYTHING, even the rest of things i will mention..
2.- she is has super really strong religious convictions
3.- Her mind was all over the place, she was nervous etc..(she thought this dude is a player, he wants to use me(and you failed to address those issues)
4.- she wants you to be the boyfriend so she holds out pussy(some girl this this shit to me i end up marring her, now that i am more advance in game looking back, that would have never had happened, yes i am embarrassed of this shit(kasabi/don draper kill me with this one time.. lol)

"we are not gonna have sex" that is the best shit that could ever come out of a girl mouth, that means if you handle this right you will fuck, if i get a nickle for everytime i got this and i fuck the girl i would be a multimillionire lol... How have i handle it:

1.-who said we were gonna have sex? i am just dancing with you, having a good time..(i use this one in club game)

2.-we are both adult we are gonna do whatever we are comfortable doing...60 yoc

3.- oh no! i am not horny i jerked of before coming out, i am good (this is my own style, i get a laugh)

4.- ok or ok cool( and keep turning her on)


to the player question, if you get this question, means you are doing stuff right, you convey sexuallity, alpha, abundance, this is really good, i get that all the time... this is how i answer it and it works for me...

I am not a player, i date... Most guys settle with anything that comes along, i do not settle i am goal oriented and i know what i exactly want in a girl, unfortunately you do not get to know the real girl till 3 to 6 months after you are together, and unfortunately i do not like to waste my time... What i do is that i date couple of girls, and when i find the one that i like i settle and i am exclusive... (copyright skills360 lol)


i use the above routine all the time, and it always works and the girl end up wanting me more, women secretly love competition, and a guy that is wanted by other women..

About wearing a suit, i do club game i do not advise that, since i dance it gets hot, also women may think or assume you got money.. But is good way to pea cock!

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OK, I tried this last night. Very "solid" number from between 12:00 - 2:00 (almost a pull) and then from a different venue I " "pulled*** " " (details below) someone home at about 5 am, with a few girls in between I was "testing the water" with.

BUT - I did make a calibration mistake, the one I ""pulled"" was only "half" down for it. I pulled her out in about 15 minutes, with just flat out telling her "I'm going to take you home with me". She was laughing it off but then I pulled her hand to the coat check and told her "fine, so we're going to an after party" or something like that, but it was obvious that we're going to my place. She left the next day at 4 pm (a couple of hours ago), she didn't actually let me bang her but everything else... which kinda sucked :-) It was very interesting... she was 28 years old so it's real strange, she was kind of conservative and yet, I did get her home and naked with me with almost zero effort and within "minutes".

At some point I also told her "I want to exchange orgasms with you" and then added "I'll give you a good exchange rate - I'll let you have two for each of mine" :-) I was still the "good boy" but it was way more aggressive then I usually do it. Also, with all honesty, it was closing time but she wasn't exactly one of those "standing in the corner touching her hair" girls, and when we started dancing she was still there with a friend of hers.

Anyway... I'll get better with time I guess. What I would like to know is how do you know if the resistance is "token" or real. I had PLENTY of girls telling me "we're not going to have sex" which later let me bang them, actually when I think about it this is the first time I had a girl in my bed, NAKED, who didn't let me go all the way with her.... those catholic polish girls... anyway what I'm saying is, I wish I knew how to recognize when the girl is just saying "I won't have sex with you" and when a girl actually MEANS it. I was always able to pass LMR but not with this one... it wasn't "last minutes resistance" it was "12 hours resistance". I tried every trick in the book and nothing worked. She was all naked, oiled up with massage oil, I have my finger inside her, and STILL she didn't let me bang her... WTF. Maybe she felt I was a player and didn't want to be "another number". At one point she told me "I bet you do this every night". By the way - what do you answer to that?



Anyway, thanks SA911, Stelar, Skills for a great thread and I'm still working on a SNL mega post... it will take a few days, maybe more.
Some women will never give it up the first time out of pure conviction. Trust me. What I am seeing is someone that still got the maximum potential. What you failed to do is realize it was maxed out and enjoy it anyways. The resistance became the focus point.

I would of teased the fuck out of her half the night, got a bj, blew in her mouth/tits and passed out. If you teased her really good the night before. And she wakes up content. This is a great time to try again.

It sounds like the only way this would of worked is to have fed her the B.S. Paint the picture she wanted to see.

You didn't spend enough time inside her head.
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I bet you do this every night". By the way - what do you answer to that?
This is the time you do a deflection. like a ninja, timing is critical. must be a quick response.

My response: I don't meet women like you every night, that's for sure, so NO I don't do this every night. How about you? :)

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From my experience of going out in the city I live in these are the type of girls I see out.

1. Party Girls w/ groups of friends (MAJORITY)
2. Girls with extremely high bitch shields that do not talk at all (girls with family background ethnic italian/greeks) - Also extreme believers in not being a slut
3. Couples
4. Tourists (very rare)
5. Looking back over the past 3yrs of going out a very small percentage of ONS girls either that I didn't approach or I failed to pull because they refused to even though they were horny.

Numbers 2 & 3 are not possible. 1. Escalation and isolation required IMO, 4. Best chance of getting laid, 5. Very rare and hard to spot

I have tried Stelar's pattern only one night so far.

Firstly .. this question is directed mostly at Stelar but anyone who feels they can answer it. If I can't spot any girls looking for ONS do I use the same line using the word "fuck" but then get the number? and if I am only talking to them for a few minutes how will they remember me? Or does the baldness take care of that?

Secondly if I am using this pattern will escalation help your chances or hinder them for a ONS, Or has no effect? Example below

A week and a half ago I used this pattern on a girl interested in me but she wasn't ready to leave the club yet at 1am and wanted to stay with her friends. I left because I was tired after 3nights out in a row HOWEVER she had agreed to fuck me, I did not read between the lines + ready to go home.

I didn't escalate and didn't kiss close (is this bad?) and I now find it impossible to meet up with this girl. I have tried twice and she has been busy plus she does not contact me its only me contacting her and I have decided to stop contacting her now because I feel like I have fucked up something that was guaranteed initially.

Thirdly can I recover from this situation with this girl?

3questions in this post I hope someone can answer them.

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