fair enough, could is alot different then, will
I am a terrible example of this, but I can off hand think of two real life examples (that are not me) that fit the bill of none of these problems and are very promiscuous in their sex lives, 3 if you don't count number 3, but he has never purposely tried to get girls to cheat, just found out after the fact, but they are naturals and don't read material nor care about it
Pretty much has nothing to do with your original point, I don't know anybody who couldn't sleep with any girls, then sorted his life out, then became socially/financially successful, then all of a sudden became successful with women and had no emotional issues, no one is a perfect, why do you have to wait until you are financially/socially successful to pursue women? wouldn't you be just as likely to face the same problems as someone who just started chasing women sooner rather then later? how is age a somehow an indication emotional stability?

Marc, you took my stuff out of context, anyways, whatever pumpigton said above is exactly what i was trying to say, so that is your answer.i agree 100% with what he is saying above. Other than that this is a useless post...And i stand with the stance that you do not know what you are talking about, but keep digging deeper at least you are very consistent.

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The Original Intent of the Post

On a Scale of 1 to 10, 1=Getting Nowhere as an AFC and 10= complete Ladies Man living a promiscuous lifestyle that hinges on only ONS.

As a PUA when someone is moving from 1 to 10, the post says - try developing an awareness and understanding of how to handle both urs and the girl's emotions, its not an easy thing. Not too many ppl can successfully do that. Many ppl hurt others and damage their ownselves in the race to live a promiscuous lifestyle.

Dont be in hurry to get to the lifestyle of 'the 10' by wrecking the emotions of
people you come close with; because with being that promiscuous ONS kinda guy also comes some responsibilities. We all are responsible if by our actions we wreck the emotions of others. If you do not develop the maturity along the way to manage expectations and take responsibility, chances are you'd wreck urself and damage the confidence/respect/trust of a lot of other ppl along the way.

Also, be proactive in developing other parts of ur life along the way.

Side Note: And its also Okay to stop half way thru in this journey if you meet the right girl or wud like to get into a relationship - there is nothing wrong in enjoying a good relationship w/ another person - dont sell her short because you want to move to the next one.

Now lets try to get to some of the counter arguments

You are Exactly right. hey I high fived U and agreed w/ u soo many times. U are right - This post is useless, everything that I'm saying, Kasabi is saying, the other two guys here are saying with an exception of Pumpington is all worthless, we are all worthless.

What is worthwhile is for U to go out every wkend and bang married women because U think they are in unhappy marriages. Hey, in ur own words, after all U ALWAYS LEAVE every single girl better off in every aspect of the life or at the least they get a good fuck. High five

This is good! Finally... Marc is not a pissing contest, if i like your stuff i will say it, actually this is ok.

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You ok dude? take a breather is the internet... cool! stop taking stuff out of context, high five, wtf! lol!

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Right, of all the ridiculous claims u've thrown around which I've highlighted High Five is the only thing that catches ur attention !

Skills360, this is what u've been doing
1) Disagree making over the top comments
2) Fold back and enter a shell - When confronted with reasoning
3) Wait around for someone else to provide a reason and then simply just say Yeah I agree 100% that is what I meant


^ This is moronic - In real world, at work place, this is what an ediot presents to the Board of Directors telling them he cud make the company Millions. And when asked to back that with sound reasoning he simply makes comments - "I can make U million but I can make u millions blah blah.." and folds back.

Then walks out of the meeting to bitch to friends how everyone is worthless, how no one understands him, how ppl are stupid.

If one were to ask u to even repeat what pumpington said IN UR OWN WORDS u'd come up something ridiculous as everytime before.

Sure, there cud be some examples of guys who have the maturity of handling this well, though I havent met one that wud convincingly tell me that, But fine I give u the benefit of the doubt.

However, that makes (incl. U and ur 3rd friend) only 4 of all the people Ud know.

Go to any night club, in any part of the world and spot the best of the best guys (speaking from experience). Befriend them, and ask them over lunch or something as to what got them started and what their motivation was and get to know them. U'd see that the 4 of U and guys like U are few and far between.

But yes, the key here is to get that maturity to make sure one doesnt wreck oneself and others in the process.
As I mentioned earlier, A healthy mix of the two is warranted. U dont have to wait for anything to pursue women but dont neglect developing other parts of ur life in the process esp. early on. Yes u can go back to school when ur 40yrs old and finish ur degree but how about getting all those parts figured out first.

^ this is out of context, again i agree with you but I choose to answer some of the questions/comments simply because I cared to start this thread so doesnt matter.

As for age, well unless one is a complete vegetable, sitting around absolutely nothing, I hoping that one with develop some level of maturity and experience with age to handle their own emotions and that of others better - But I may be wrong.

Dude........... the reason they are single or divorced is that being good with girls mean that they are none needy and that they realize what most people are unable to see which is - MONOGAMY IS A LIE, it is UNNATURAL and most couples are miserable as a result of living in this unnatural arrangement.

Just tonight I was out with a friend and her best friend (two females) one goes "I'm so happy! I'm so free! I'm the most free and happy person in the world!" so I go to the other friend and say "let me guess.... she's just been out of a relationship" the friend says "yes". I ask "how long? 5 years?" she answers "exactly".

LTR are PRISONS, period. MAYBE there are some people who are built for them but most healthy adults are not. The frustrations and disadvantages are just too high. I know VERY FEW happy couples, and many couples that fucking hate each other and their lives... BUT, they have children so ITS TOO LATE for them. Social conditioning, growing up believing that "living in a couple" is the only "right" way, being needy for sex and affection... all lead to this BULLSHIT called "relationships".

Yea, I bet you think I'm crazy... haha..... but look at the statistics. 50 years from now nobody will be married.

Oh not at all, why wud I think u are crazy esp. when I myself hve enjoyed everything from monogamy to a promiscuous lifestyle and everything in between. But the post is not about making the choices its more about making sure one can handle all of the stages if thats what one wants. Go back to what I have a couple of posts back, that shud help.

As for guys that I've mentioned, they arent single by complete choice but are at a point in their lives that they find it difficult to get out of that state and hence end up making the most of it.

Skills, Actually to be honest, and now I mean it in all seriousness, its not even the question of liking or not liking my stuff or your stuff. You rightly pointed out its not a pissing contest, hell we dont even know each other well so who cares.

However, a healthy discussion is always welcomed. I'm actually enjoying my discussion with pumpington, and I had to read Kasabi's post a few times to learn what he was actually trying to say, which was good.

I appreciate ur comments too, U come about in a different way but very easy to counter when backed with reasons.

alright, what all the hate is about?

as far as I can tell, all Marc is trying to say is that the over-hyped player-lifestyle may not be for everyone(actually not for most people) and its ok. it has its own disadvantages and can easily lead to problems pointed out in OP.

The only valid counter-argument was from kasabi saying that it's not the lifestyle its the inability to manage intimate relationships that causes these problems. May be to some extent. May be not. All we can do is hypothesize or use examples from our personal experiences.

this^, marc what do you want me to say, i agree 100% with this and what pumpington said, so because of that i am idiotic, well then i am... When i put it in my own transaltion since i am not a good mental masturbator, unfortunately you do not understand or it does not come out right, but as i said, my point is you never been married have you????? I have... You never been a family counselor(i was)? you never been with multiple married woman???? so what i was trying to say is that based on my life experiences, what pumpington and phangan are saying is similar to what i have experience... In your original post, it came across and i may be wrong, that if you are old and getting tail, you may not be successful or there may be something wrong with you that is totally a crazy statement.

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So, skills...after all that experience, the conclusion you came to is that happy monogamous relationship and/or monogamous marriages(not all are this way but these are I want to concentrate on for now) are impossible?

No, my conclusion is because you choose a life of getting tail and no settling with marriage or a so call monogamous relationship, that there is something wrong with you or you are not successful, people choose their lifestyle how they want to live it, and the majority of marriages not as " perfect" as they post in facebook... you would be surprise of how many double lifes etc... Actually, unlike the community i rather have a gf, or a steady woman, after 3-6 months fuckatons, you will get bored, and feel kind of empty.. i like having a serious relationship, specially since i hate condoms...But a gf, that is flexible enough to allow you to do your thing, and have your freedom and nights out...

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