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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:49 pm 
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So a little background. I've known this girl for about 4 years. Been just friends for about a year (I had a girlfriend/she had a boyfriend). I was a complete AFC at the time, at some point I pretty much revealed too much interest and got rejected. Cut contact with her completely for about 2-3 years. Recently she broke up with her boyfriend and made contact and started blowing up my phone so I decided to give it a shot.

We went out for drinks. This wasn't officially a "date", we called it "catching up". I think I handled it really well. Escalated kino from the very start, and eventually got to the point where I can incidentally touch her face/hair. I was able to talk a little about sex, which is something I've never done with her. I was constantly C&F and my social proof was tight. I knew lots of people there and at some point the owner of the bar came just to say hi to me (I'm usually not THAT social, so this was a good surprise for me too). My confidence was really high that night and I played it by the book.

I was constantly getting laughs from her (when I think about it she was laughing the whole night), we teased each other playfully and by the end of the night she even started to pull some kino herself, touching me and putting her hand on my legs. I gave her a few incidental triangular gazes and she returned the favor. I did not get a single verbal IOI from her, but whatever.

The problem is it was all very friendly, and not really sexual. She's not a very sexual person, she's 21 and for the past 4 years she was in 2 serious relationships the whole time. Her parents are extremely strict and that's the kind of education she got. At some point she said that she never does one night stands (which I honestly believe) and that she's not really looking for someone (but she also said she never DID look for someone, but she DID have boyfriends in the past). She also said she doesn't go on "dates". No idea what that means. I pretty much ignored that and kept going.

My initial thoughts were that she's just shy around people, so when we finished our drinks I isolated her and we sat down on a bench next to where she lives. We kept chatting for a bit, and had some more friendly kino and teasing, but that was it. It was fucking cold outside so after a while she wanted to go home. Maybe I should have just went for a kiss, but it felt a little awkward. The vibe was too friendly to just go for it. I couldn't read any invitation.

I think overall I made a great impression and that her image of me changed completely. But after not closing I think I may have fucked this up and got myself in the damn friendzone, again. Not sure what to do next. This happened last night (about 12 hours ago) and we still didn't exchange any texts. Didn't make any plans yet. Should I go for another date right away? Should I freeze her out for a little? Is this even recoverable?

Thanks guys.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:05 pm 
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Got a text from her, nothing about last night but she wants to meet again. I really hope I'm not friendzoned already.


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Don't worry aboyt kissing her, seriously forget about that and you will start getting the results that you want. I know this sounds silly but just enjoy the moment, don't be in your head " should I kiss her now or should I wait" you are not gonna get anything from that.
Try to focus more on building report and proving that you are genuine interested in her and she’s gonna feel that, building connection is the best way of kissing someone and making sure it’s not only about a kiss, it’s about making sure she replies your text messages or answer your calls.

This video can help you out with that. Good luck and remember to take your time and enjoy the moment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWeQJmdH ... YkdGE8l04O

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Don't worry aboyt kissing her, seriously forget about that and you will start getting the results that you want. I know this sounds silly but just enjoy the moment, don't be in your head " should I kiss her now or should I wait" you are not gonna get anything from that.
Try to focus more on building report and proving that you are genuine interested in her and she’s gonna feel that, building connection is the best way of kissing someone and making sure it’s not only about a kiss, it’s about making sure she replies your text messages or answer your calls.

This video can help you out with that. Good luck and remember to take your time and enjoy the moment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWeQJmdH ... YkdGE8l04O
Thanks man, appreciated. I think the problem is I might've built too much comfort and focused too little on attraction. She was very comfortable with me, but it was all just friendly and maybe a little flirty, but not comfortable in a way that she would expect and accept a kiss. But maybe I just misread her, because she's being VERY friendly.

Another thing that might pose a problem is the fact that she thinks I'm some player, because during that time we weren't in touch I slept with some of her friends. She's very conservative as it is and so this might look threatening.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:14 pm 
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Guys, anything? I was thinking maybe running some Shock&Awe next time I see her, but that might be too direct...


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Guys, anything? I was thinking maybe running some Shock&Awe next time I see her, but that might be too direct...
Ok so in this case it's not what you are saying it's how you are saying it, try to be more aware of your body language, you have to sexualize yourself, control the way you make eye contact, don't be so "friendly" do you know what I mean?
Here you have a video of the perfect example of body language
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3wDlS6 ... bxgZ5hWo_W

Look at the way he holds eye contact, the thing is that eye contact without the right body language is pointless. You need to be aware that more than 90% of the communication is non verbal, so what you say is not as important as how you say it.
Be aware of the tone of your voice, speak slower than you usually do with your friends, if you want to sexualize yourself you have to make things smoother.

Talk to her but be close to her, what I'd recommend is forget about escalating if you say she's so friendly she'd think that you just being "friendly" so don't do it but keep in mind what I wrote before.

Buena suerte.

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Got it, I think I just need to get out of that "please like me" mentality and into the "I am going to fuck you" state of mind...


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