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How can I get a F-close? I may see her again this Thursday for a night out.

What is the best way to kiss and arouse a girl?
good job.

As for F-close, you can mention smth interesting that you have in your house(or some awesome thing you can cook or smth cool you can do in your house without inviting her, and moving onto the next subject. Then invite her over for that thing.(later of course-so it doesn't come out of blue)

@kasabi.

I suppose I misunderstood you initial reply, cause U thought you meant achievement = PU success. Which it seems we both disagree with. As far as intelligence giving a larger dating pool-not really, good bs-ing skills can make up for that(and bs-ing doesn't count as achievement, nor as intelligence.)


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good stuff man, its hard in the beginning, i forget who said it but 'your first 1000 sets don't count'. It looks like you are doing a lot of reading which is good to get a feel for the material at the start, but the real learning is done in the field. The more practice the better you get, so try and open everything, haha much easier said than done.
Thanks for your comment and compliments, I used to read quite a bit materials, like double your dating, mystery method, gunswitch method, stealth method and the game. I didn't finish all the books, excepts double your dating. At the moment, I heavily rely on the experts in this forum, especially Kasabi, Chief and Slywalker.


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I need to go back to my work now. I have already done some day games in yoga classes and cafes. Haven't got any luck yet. I will write everything out soon. Bear with me :D


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As far as intelligence giving a larger dating pool-not really, good bs-ing skills can make up for that(and bs-ing doesn't count as achievement, nor as intelligence.)
You created a mental gumbo out of very different things.

1. Accomplishments = larger dating pool. Why: Women dig it.

2. Intelligence = A better foundation for PUA learning. Why: Better comprehension, better understanding of concepts, and better retention of ideas.

3. High level BS = Achievement and often times intelligence. If this was not true, Wall Street would cease to exist, Global politics would not be what it is today, and there would be no such thing as religion.

4. Low level BS skills = idiocy.


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First, read what I wrote here and give it some thought:

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Regarding the French Girl:

The next time you meet her, she will be mentally/physically prepared for sex. You'll notice when her pants come off, everything underneath will be presentable.

I'm curious about her telling you that she "wanted to go home," the last time you were out with her. Most girls (after seeing you several times, then after a night of drinking and making out) usually stay quiet and just assume you'll end up together. From the way you described it, I have no idea whether she had an issue or whether she wanted you to press a little further but none of this really matters.

Invite her to your place for cocktails, take-out, and a movie. . . simple. And ask in a way as if it's not a big deal and it's something you do for fun once in a while. If you don't have some basic cocktail stuff, you should. Back when I kept a serious bachelor pad, I had a bar with all the tropical fruits and cocktail paraphernalia out in plain view. Every girl goes, "What's that?"

You: Help yourself.
Girl: How?
You: Pick a fruit.

Then you shake up two drinks, slide in a movie . . . but never finish the movie. Keep one pillow on a sofa and use it for yourself. Whether she looks at you funny or not, just make it seem like you forgot, "Oh, you want a pillow?" And regardless of whether she says yes or no, just slide the pillow behind her back and squeeze yourself in so you share the pillow. Toss your arm around her shoulder, give her a big smooch on her cheek, watch a little bit of the movie, and you're off to the races. The downside of all of this besides what's described in the link above is that you'll get to see only the first half of many movies.


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RonnyC:

First, read what I wrote here and give it some thought:

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Ans: Thank you very much for your link again. I was a bit knackered tonight and I want to write a field report of tonight sarging, so I will check it out tomorrow


Regarding the French Girl:

The next time you meet her, she will be mentally/physically prepared for sex. You'll notice when her pants come off, everything underneath will be presentable.

I'm curious about her telling you that she "wanted to go home," the last time you were out with her. Most girls (after seeing you several times, then after a night of drinking and making out) usually stay quiet and just assume you'll end up together. From the way you described it, I have no idea whether she had an issue or whether she wanted you to press a little further but none of this really matters.

Ans: This is my guess but I am not so sure. She works as a babysister in London and is staying with a host mum. In the contract I guess she can't stay out after a certain amount of time.

Invite her to your place for cocktails, take-out, and a movie. . . simple. And ask in a way as if it's not a big deal and it's something you do for fun once in a while. If you don't have some basic cocktail stuff, you should. Back when I kept a serious bachelor pad, I had a bar with all the tropical fruits and cocktail paraphernalia out in plain view. Every girl goes, "What's that?"

You: Help yourself.
Girl: How?
You: Pick a fruit.

Then you shake up two drinks, slide in a movie . . . but never finish the movie. Keep one pillow on a sofa and use it for yourself. Whether she looks at you funny or not, just make it seem like you forgot, "Oh, you want a pillow?" And regardless of whether she says yes or no, just slide the pillow behind her back and squeeze yourself in so you share the pillow. Toss your arm around her shoulder, give her a big smooch on her cheek, watch a little bit of the movie, and you're off to the races. The downside of all of this besides what's described in the link above is that you'll get to see only the first half of many movies.

Ans: Haha! Great plan
I will see the frenchie again tomorrow. She was supposed to see her friend tomorrow night but she canceled it and want to come to see me in a club instead. Gooood Sign!! =)


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Time: 9:00- 11:00
Venue: Somewhere in Central London
Results: 2 number closes

Tonight I wasn't in a form. I felt a bit funny in my stomach. However, I couldn't suppress a surge of desire on beautiful girls. Although I wanted to sick a couple of times, I still went to a coachsurfing event that I could meet some foreign girl.


Technique Checklist
1.) Kasabi' suggestions
2.) Apocalypse opener

1.) Iris the english -7.5 HB
I saw her when she was in the bar waiting for being served. I noticed her that she kept twisting and playing her hair. I know this was the sign she was looking for a guy. Unfortunately, I was a bit distance from where she was at that time. It took me a bit time to get through the crowd to reach her. When the time I got close to her, she was talking to a guy who I met twice from different events. I know that guy was a PU as well. I see this guy as an acquaintance but not a friend. I showed respect what he was doing at that time and didn't interrupt. I just came up saying hi to them. Iris turned around replied and gave a compliment to my shirt. I know this was an IOI. However, my head was full of shit ideas about moral standard and kept telling myself not to shortgun that guy. Anyway, I didn't compete with that guy. I was very polite to him and didn't ruin his game. I replied to iris that my shirt was a designer shirt and said bye to them. Afterwards, I saw them leaving together. I felt very gutted. I reckoned they went back for sex

Mistake 1
I shouldve used apocalyse opener to open her up because girls like her that sexual and she might be ready for some action tonight. I shouldve stayed to talk iris rather than ran off. My head kept telling me not to make any enemy in that place. To be honest, who cares. Everyone is coming for the game.

Learning Outcomes
Don't be too kind in the game. Only show respect to my real friends when they are gaming; otherwise don't give a shit.

My heart is always for english roses but I didn't have any tonight


Idi the Romania- 7 HB

A 24 years old blondie with a pierce in her lower lip. I went up to her with a massive confidence and said hi. She was with another french guy. I didn’t ignore the French and I did talk to him but most likely I was focusing on Idi. I made her laughed by saying some english jokes. It worked. She was into my topics. At that time the French tried to secure his territory by putting his arm around Idi to show me who is the daddy in the house. Unfortunately it didn’t work out because Idi shrugged off. Then I know she was interested in me. The French didn’t say a word after the failed attempt. HE got no choice but left us because I started deliberately talking to Idi alone straight after his failed attempt. When he left, I was very polite to him and suggested him to come back if he liked our companies. Of course he didn't come back in the end. After the French left, I took Idi somewhere quiet to talk. From that time, I started talking about sex. She had a very loose and nearly transparent t-shirt which I could see her bra completely.

Me: I like your bra, leopard patterns. Pretty wild! (with a confident look without smiling)
Her: Thanks! (with a very surprised look)
Me: does it match your thong (with a wink)
Her: Haha! (A very long laughter, longer than usual), my thong is pink and blah blah…….
Me: Can I see? (with a smile on face)
Her: Haha! No! blah blah…….

Since then, all the topics we had were all about sex and the reasons why I love girls with a nice bra…… Of course, I started touching her at the same tine when we talked about sex. Then I slightly changed the topic by saying something about art and then suggested her to come to see an exhibition with me at some point next week. She said yes and then we exchanged our numbers.

After I got her number, I wanted to leave her for a HB whom I saw from a distance. However, when I tried excuse myself for my friends, she moaned about me being cruel to her by leaving her alone. I got no choice but stayed a bit longer with her. Eventually, I lost her by teasing her being demanding and introducing her to my friends.

Learning Outcomes
Be confident and talking about sex always helps to build a rapport.

After I went back home, she sent me a txt message like this,

Her: I am deeply confused =) Good night…..

I don’t even know what she was talking about but what I know it’s a sign of the come-on because it was rare for a girl to send a txt to a guy first straight after they meet at the same night.

Mee the german -- 8HB
Too wiped out, I will write about her tomorrow. BTW, I don't think I have a chance with her. I sent her a txt two hours ago about telling her that it was nice meeting her. However, I still haven't got any reply from her. No good feelings of it.


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I shouldve used apocalyse opener to open her up because girls like her that sexual and she might be ready for some action tonight.
Not with another guy hanging by her side. Even the most open minded girls don't want to be perceived as the village whore.(in front of multiple people) The way you worked the second situation was perfect.

You're making this look too easy.


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RonnyC:

First, read what I wrote here and give it some thought:

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Hey Kasabi, I am still reading this link. I am afraid I am being slow and possibly I need more time to digest your ideas. One thing I can promise you are not creating a monster and I will not get lost in the game.


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Mistake 1
I shouldve used apocalyse opener to open her up because girls like her that sexual and she might be ready for some action tonight.
Not with another guy hanging by her side. Even the most open minded girls don't want to be perceived as the village whore.(in front of multiple people) The way you worked the second situation was perfect.

You're making this look too easy.
Thanks!, still got a lot of things to learn. Everytime when I look at your posts, you remind me at lot of George Poyla, one of the great mathematians at all times. He is good not only because he contributed a lot in mathematics but also because he wrote a book to tell people how a mathematician thinks and how a mathematician solves mathematical problems in a clear and simple fashion. Not many poeple can do this.


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Time: from 12th Feb -17th Feb
Venue: a bedroom
Results: a couple of F-closes


The Frenchie
I have been mentioned a lot about the frenchie for the last three week. After all my hard work and following all the good suggestions from the MPUAs in this forum, finally, I made a couple of F-closes with the frenchie for last two days before she headed back paris last friday afternoon. To be honest, I got a bit emotionally involved at the end of our relationship and feeling a bit sad. However, on the bright side, I should be happier to myself because I am starting changing. =)

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Read all the suggestions from Kasabi in all my previous posts


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Mistake 1
I shouldve used apocalyse opener to open her up because girls like her that sexual and she might be ready for some action tonight.
Not with another guy hanging by her side. Even the most open minded girls don't want to be perceived as the village whore.(in front of multiple people) The way you worked the second situation was perfect.

You're making this look too easy.
@Kasabi
I don't think I deserved your points because I lost that Romanian girl. I don't know why but I am sure some mistakes I made which costed me on that night. Let me think it through again to see if I can find my mistakes.


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I don't think I deserved your points because I lost that Romanian girl. I don't know why but I am sure some mistakes I made which costed me on that night. Let me think it through again to see if I can find my mistakes.
The only "mistake" you made is that you still don't seem to realize that you're a bad-ass motherfucker. You just went through a 'meet - befriend - go out - fuck' cycle with one girl. Was she some peculiar toothless girl? Low IQ? Delusional? No. . .

You know that she was a very normal, healthy girl who was into you because you're a 'bad-ass motherfucker'. Barring unusual circumstances, just about any girl out there will be into you if you 'open up' to her. This means that when you 'open up' to a girl, you need accept that SHE WILL BE INTO YOU even if you cannot identify silly signs or IOI's. Respect every 'interaction' a little more. You're doing a lot more than you realize.

Secondly, if you really want this girl, she's more than available to you. Just get yourself to a 'friendly chat' level with her and start up again from there.


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I don't think I deserved your points because I lost that Romanian girl. I don't know why but I am sure some mistakes I made which costed me on that night. Let me think it through again to see if I can find my mistakes.
The only "mistake" you made is that you still don't seem to realize that you're a bad-ass motherfucker. You just went through a 'meet - befriend - go out - fuck' cycle with one girl. Was she some peculiar toothless girl? Low IQ? Delusional? No. . .

You know that she was a very normal, healthy girl who was into you because you're a 'bad-ass motherfucker'. Barring unusual circumstances, just about any girl out there will be into you if you 'open up' to her. This means that when you 'open up' to a girl, you need accept that SHE WILL BE INTO YOU even if you cannot identify silly signs or IOI's. Respect every 'interaction' a little more. You're doing a lot more than you realize.

Secondly, if you really want this girl, she's more than available to you. Just get yourself to a 'friendly chat' level with her and start up again from there.
Hey Kasabi, I know what you mean. What I am thinking is refining my logistics. Please don't get me wrong. Things are working but just somwhere along the line I kept repeating the same mishap. I don't know yet. May be I still don't realise I am already a bad-ass motherfucker.

I went for sarging again for last two nights. I will post a field report soon. Although I got three number closes but I can see two of the girls I met would not turn up Day 2. I don't know the other one yet but will find out in the next couple of days


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Time: 20th Feburary 2012 8:00p.m. -11:00 p.m.
21st Feburary 2012 8:00p.m. -11:00 p.m.

Venue: Somewhere in Central London
Results: 3 number closes and 5 rejections


Techinque Checklists
Pretty much as same as before.


In the Mission
The following events are crouchsurfing events. People are bound to talking to each other.
20th Feburary 2012
Alien the French -- 7.5 -- 8 HB
I met her when I was ordering a drink in the bar
Opener:
Me: I like your glasses and can I try them on (saying with confidence and intense eye contact)
Her: Yes, sure
After I put the glasses on, she laughed.
Her: You don't look good on them.
Me: Really?

We both kept laughing. Gamed on. I asked her to come with me to sit at the table for a drink. She followed my lead. Then I threw in Chief's sexual tension techiques and then joked and teased her a little bit. First she resisted my touching but then she surrendered. I always excited her to meet up again by seeing some artwork together and teaching french. She said yes. Afterwards, we exchanged numbers. At that point, I didn't ask for the number and all I did, I just put my phone out. She took her notebook out and showed me her english mobile number. Then I typed down and gave her a missed call. She double checked her number in her phone and asked me how to spell my name.

You guys must think I did it prefectly. Not quite. I made mistakes when I left her for another girl.

Mistake 1
Negative Engery The conversation was around 20 minutes. It was quite flowing. At the end of the converstation, I ran out things to say. I suggested to miggle in with other people so that I can game other girls. She followed me. We met a first girl who I didn't fancy. She was being a bitch to me. I accidently said something bad to that bitch, which costed me and made me looked bad in front of the frenchie because the frenchie said to me why I was being so mean to her.

Mistake 2
Leaving her in an very inappropiate way
When she was talking to that bitch, I made an excuse to leave them to say that I gave her some space to meet some new people. However, it didn't work out. Somehow I hung on with them. I can't remmeber if the frenchie asked me to stay or suddenly the frenchie talked me back so that I could not leave.


Mistake 3
Lying about knowing something I don't know
After that bitch left, somehow I mentioned about dancing. I told her I knew salsa. When she showed me her skills and asked to dance a bit with her. I fucked.

Mistake 4
Leaving her without saying goodbye
After that mean bitch and my dancing incident, I suggested both of us to talk to a group of people (4 girls and 1 boy). When she talked to one of the girls, I didn't say a bye or anything by quickly ejecting myself to two other german girls who were opposite to frenchie. I started talking to those girls, plus gaming them.

Learning Outcomes[\b]
1.) Be cool. Don't be negative to someone I don't like. Next time be calm and chilled.
2.) Don't fake smthing I don't know
3.) If I want to leave someone, please be polite and say bye before I go.
4.) I should have talked her back after I talked to two germans. Although I did, before she left for home. However the conservation was short and I didn't see any sparkles there.

Results[\b]
On that night after she left the venue, I sent her a txt message to say nice meeting her and all that jazz, but she didn't reply. Today, I sent her another txt like this:
Me: Congratulation!

Up to now, I still haven't got her reply. I know I lost her. Wishing she lossing her phone is another ridiculous attempt. Damn.... Just face the reality!


Questions[\b]
In a small venue, how can I game girls? I don't want my target to see me to flirt with other girls after I meet her. The only thing I think of at the moment is focusing one or two girls and also talking to guys.

What is a good way to leave your target after you have a number close and a rapport bulit?


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