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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:43 pm 
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someone should post this on The Attraction Forums?

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i understand how this show can be fake, but one thing.

this show took a period of two MONTHS, not one weekend like i've seen a lot of people saying.


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uh, just because they are actors doesn't make the show fake.
yeah, maybe some of the some of the stuff, may have been for more drama.

but all actors don't get all the ladies, and they infact have a lower confidence than most people, but the may be less shy.

so what...

i wasn't supprised someone would post something like this.

just to get rid of all their anger for so and so not winning


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I'm fcking glad the show existed. Now I know what to google for. Not sure if the teachings will help me or not, but at least to have a foundation is good. Some girls can be stupid, treat you badly, almost seems as if they get a power high (on purpose), but to flip that shit on them, that's a good ass feeling--and I don't care if they're good looking, I like them, or whatever ... no girl should ever DLV me.


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Actually, some girls DO have a power trip by controlling the guy. That's why you need to BUST the BITCH shield IMMEDIATELY. Before they have a chance to control YOUR frame. Take control of theirs. They will either thank you for it, or they are a waste of time.


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i dont know if the stuff in that link is real. i mean joe d does seem a bit real with his myspace but you can see how he thinks in his blog:

seems sort of realistic to me. but come on... joe w is so fake in that picture:


it is obviously photoshopped. i understand that mystery is selling out a bit (but really this is his life and he does need an income... maybe a bit greedy but hey... its his job). all this should do for us is make us a bit more creative because it is harder to use the material that mystery taught in the show.

ps. i had to remove the links because i havent been registered for over a day so just follow the link at the top and click the links there to the corresponding person


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I found this on Joe's Myspace Blog:

Acting and Pickup
Current mood: calm

This will be the one and only time that I will be addressing this thought.

Yes, I went to the University of Oregon and recieved a theatre arts degree. I am very proud of my education and never tried to hide it. On the VH1 . com it says I was a medical web developer, that was correct. Prior to the show, that was my 9 to 5 job. As far as acting and the show, I was never given lines, stage direction, or blocking. What you see is the real deal. My life was changed forever, and I never thought a reality tv show would have such an impact on anyone's life.

On another note:

I am still the same Joe Doyle from Bothell Wa. I am not a "player." There are three phases to the art of pickup. Attraction, comfort building, and seduction. A player attracts and seduces, leaving comfort out of the mix. A player also takes what he can get.
I have a lot of women in my life now, but beauty is common. It's whats on the inside that seperates the girls from the women.

Just a little rant before I hit the pool.

Cheers

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Yeah, Dr Deeds, I had already posted that on another thread, lol. Thats cool though.


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I think that they hired actors so this wouldn't get to big. Maybe Mystery was clever enough to know that the show would get exposed. This is how it can be kept from getting too big and having people turn his method into "pickup lines". This way it's still somewhat underground.


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I listened to a radio interview with Kosmo and Joe D. They both said they were actors, but the whole show was real, producers never said they had to do anything. One of Kosmo's friends called in and said Kosmo was the same Kosmo he'd always known on the show. VH1 was shady in saying he was a video-game programmer, he was actually a web-designer AND actor.


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thats frikin crazy.. would have never guessed.... thats stupid


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I just read a little deeper into it out of pure curiousity and on Big joes myspace he claims it was not scripted they did however switch some words around to make it sound more appealing.... he was the job he said he was it was just at a dif point in his life... WEIRD


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Yes, I went to the University of Oregon and recieved a theatre arts degree. I am very proud of my education and never tried to hide it. On the VH1.com it says I was a medical web developer, that was correct. Prior to the show, that was my 9 to 5 job. As far as acting and the show, I was never given lines, stage direction, or blocking. What you see is the real deal. My life was changed forever, and I never thought a reality tv show would have such an impact on anyone's life.
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hmm. Ive got mixed opinions on this subject. Truth is Mystery developed a method to pick up women. And as a magician as we all know, he applied theories of illusion to pick up.
Well why not the show? Its a big trick. True Mystery will get paid but then again, It was long overdue. The world (and us the PU community) is way underestimating the fact that mystery is an illusionist. Do people really think that he'd make a "reality show" and have actors play as ordinary guys and not expect the public to find out? C'mon now.

I'd like to believe that yes he IS making money. But then again it is his years of research that allowed a lot of people (me & you included) to do what we do. His method, let him sell it. Not everyones gonna be good at it.

As far as the actors go, I think he gave the community a smoke screen for us to hide behind. He's hiding us in plain sight. With the obvious controversy, People will look at it as "oh the show was a fake so theres no way pick up is real or legit." or
"The show was a fake, but sure was entertaining...I wonder what else is on?"
With people doubting the art (through the controversey and exposure) it won't be so mainstream, and people will hopefully forget that such a thing exist. So we can all sarge in peace.

Then theres the "The Game" movie.....
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my two cents is long sry bout that.

well back to Halo 3 :D

A Smoke Screen? Dont you think thats over thinking things a little?
Mystery is a business man/ master PUA. Those are the facts.


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