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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:44 am 
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How do I escalate on day 2's? I do pretty well for myself during the pickup, but then when it comes to day 2's, I'm not in state anymore and I fail to escalate. This is kind of a sticking point for me. Any advice?

Also, where is a good place for day 2's in college in the girl says she's not into "dates"?


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Take her to a an area where you can venue-hop. For example, a restaurant near a bowling alley, or bar, or dessert place (though I like to change the type of venue), and then a walk later. I like this approach as it keeps things interesting and it goes a long way of generating greater rapport as you experience a variety of contexts together. I wouldn't bother taking her to loud places, or a movie - basically anywhere where it's difficult to hold a conversation.

Go to places where you can seat close to one another, kino her, bump her legs with yours, lock arms as you walk, hold her hand - don't be a puss, the worse that can happen is she'll pull her hand away, then just go back to generating more comfort and try again. She pulls away it's not that she aint into you, it may be that you haven't done enough to generate comfort for her to want to be touched by you. If she's repulsed by you it's unlikely there'd be a 2nd date let alone a 1st.


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How do I escalate on day 2's? I do pretty well for myself during the pickup, but then when it comes to day 2's, I'm not in state anymore and I fail to escalate. This is kind of a sticking point for me. Any advice?

Also, where is a good place for day 2's in college in the girl says she's not into "dates"?
Download and memorize Vin DiCarlo's Escalation Ladder.


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How do I escalate on day 2's? I do pretty well for myself during the pickup, but then when it comes to day 2's, I'm not in state anymore and I fail to escalate. This is kind of a sticking point for me. Any advice?

Also, where is a good place for day 2's in college in the girl says she's not into "dates"?
Download and memorize Vin DiCarlo's Escalation Ladder.
Ya, so you can be a real creepo like him.


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Let me rephrase the question: What am I supposed to do on a day 2?

Right now, I'm pretty much shooting off interview questions. In fact, I'm not even sure if I'm building comfort the right way. What do I talk about? And also, I feel awkward when I take girls to lunch and dinner. Or rather, it's TOO comfortable and I get friendzoned.

Am I doing something wrong, or do I need to change my mindset during day2's? i.e. do I fix my outer game or inner game?

Do I just practice more day2's or what? How do I improve?


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Khrem things will be like this for the rest of your life if you keep trying to get her to like you or worrying about how your doing things and if those things your doing are right. You have to stop trying to act like someone and be yourself. Gather up your manliness and tell her about what you REALLY like to do. Tell her about the REAL you. Girls like guys who are not afraid to tell them the truth. Only weak guys try to act to get girls. The reason what your doing wight now is wrong is because you don't want to mess up anything with this girl and will therefore give yourself excuses not to escalate not to do this not to do that because you want things to be perfect. This will never make you successful. You have to be ready to fail. When your ready to fail things will get easier for you and you'll be more comfortable and less tense because you will know that if I fail with this girl no big deal you just got experience and you move on. So for day 2 take her to any place you think is fun. If you like walking by the beach take her there if you like GameStop take her there. If you value your opinion she will too. And if she doesn't too bad at least now your a more confident guy who values himself and his opinions.

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Khrem things will be like this for the rest of your life if you keep trying to get her to like you or worrying about how your doing things and if those things your doing are right. You have to stop trying to act like someone and be yourself. Gather up your manliness and tell her about what you REALLY like to do. Tell her about the REAL you. Girls like guys who are not afraid to tell them the truth. Only weak guys try to act to get girls. The reason what your doing wight now is wrong is because you don't want to mess up anything with this girl and will therefore give yourself excuses not to escalate not to do this not to do that because you want things to be perfect. This will never make you successful. You have to be ready to fail. When your ready to fail things will get easier for you and you'll be more comfortable and less tense because you will know that if I fail with this girl no big deal you just got experience and you move on. So for day 2 take her to any place you think is fun. If you like walking by the beach take her there if you like GameStop take her there. If you value your opinion she will too. And if she doesn't too bad at least now your a more confident guy who values himself and his opinions.
That's well said. Find places to relate to her in conversation, and relate. Show her that there are things that are important to you.

I stand by my last advice. Physicality means that a lot fewer words are needed. Memorize that ladder, some really smart people worked really hard on making it.


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Right, but how do I do that? I think I'm looking more for outer game advice than inner game advice. I'm not trying to get a girl to like me, as she already does by mere virtue of going out with me. But more like, how do I do a k-close on a day2? I don't even know where to start. I can k-close very easily at night, but during the day it's a completely different story. No idea why...


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There is no specific way to k close. The best thing to do that will lead to a k-close is to be flirty and touchy naturally. Start with light touches read her palm etc.. Then from a super flirty guy change to this serious type of guy and build sexual tension look at her eyes and lips talk slower make your body movement slower and imagine kissing her soft lips or whatever you want to do to her. If you feel like you want to kiss her she will feel that too. At that point just slowly move in as you look at her eyes and lips and kiss her. This can be done by day too but may be more difficult. If you find it difficult during the day take her out by night or take her out by day to a private place. Good luck!

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Right, but how do I do that? I think I'm looking more for outer game advice than inner game advice. I'm not trying to get a girl to like me, as she already does by mere virtue of going out with me. But more like, how do I do a k-close on a day2? I don't even know where to start. I can k-close very easily at night, but during the day it's a completely different story. No idea why...
If you had read the escalation ladder, you would know how to k-close. This ladder is the most basic but complete outer game advice I can give you. Just read it, then you'll know why you need to memorize it perfectly.


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