one word... condom

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okay regarding the apocalypse opener, what if she says "you're not my type" or if you try to stay and conversate after she says no, she has her guard up and says something like "why are you still here? i told you no."

If your still talking to her after she clearly said no shows how desperate you are and she's the only girl to reply to you. Move on, why waste your time and remember this online stuff is for your free time, when you want to kill time. It's not a substitute for real game going out daygame/night game.

The AO is much more effective in person, you will be amazed of how hard is it for people to say no because of how society raised them to be. I tested it out with online and had a lot of fun just seeing how those girls react. I will do field test in real life soon, it's a great way to get over your AA, but the right mind set for AO is just enjoy to fuck with those HBs and watch them suffering in shock, and not care whether you get a SNL or not. With that mindset, you simply change topic if she says no, and build rapport for about 1 or 2 min, if she's still not hooked, just move to the next set.

um, whats this apocalypic thing ? if you can link it, I'll give it a try tonight at the lounge

How do you use the AO online?

"Hey, how you doing? What are you up to later?"

Wait for girl to reply then, drop the big question.
"Want to come to my place?"

I'm not usually the type of guy that likes to do this, but I'm definately willing to try. I'm going to put this to work and see if it follows through. I'm making my e-mail and craigslist account now. I'll be spending the rest of the night making all the same personals vic has.

POF asks too many personal questions but I've finished, just gotta take my pictures which 'll probably be a few head shots or a few semi-shirtless pics we'll see who bites.

Btw, does anyone know a decent sex personals site where men don't have to pay? AFF seems to charge you for actually opening your e-mail. Correct me on this if I'm wrong, but I think you have to pay to check your messages.

OP is a genius, I just signed up for POF, and already have 5 girls in my inbox

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Seriously ONCE, let that sink in.

So let me get this right- do you have to be PROACTIVE and send out 50 e-mails a day to get a F-CLOSE? And that is on POF? Can you please post an example of the standard e-mail you first send off a girl?

BTW- what do you think of Oasis compared to POF?

I am getting some shit results in POF for some reason. Nothing is happening....

read thru this thread from first post until now....the OP states in several posts what he says, how his profile looks, etc.

As for Oasis....I cant remember if that was the website that had virtually no selection for my area, or was one that wanted to charge me to send/receive messages......Either way, I've found POF and Okcupid and Datehookup to be better. I get most responses on okcupid...some once in a while on datehookup, and just a couple on POF..

Keep in mind I don't put up a picture...if they choose to talk to me, after a little bit of conversation I'll e-mail them some pics.... The reason being, I live in a small area...so theres really only about 80-100 women in most search results, who are active members, and live within 15-20 miles of me....So I'm taking my time now to see what openers work best for ME......then when I feel that I can have the most success, I plan on making a more legit profile lol....may sound stupid, but I look at it like....on internet dating sites, good looks go the farthest.....but if you can open a girl up and plan shit with her before she even knows what you look like...thats even better...but regardless, if I were to upload a pic right away, with the limited selection I have to choose from on these sites due to where I live...I have no room for error...Cuz even if I made a new profile, everyone would still know who I am because I've contacted them before and they saw my pic.
Not having a pic tho, will also cause failure to occur....simply because a lot of females want to see who they're chatting with before you actually chat. Not to mention on sites like POF, you can set your profile/mail settings to require a person to have a picture before contacting you.


So some things to look at and consider...

Do you have a picture? If not, that could be why you're not getting any bites...If that is the case, just know that I am having a little bit of success with this, while having no pic up.

Also, the contents of your profile are a big thing...If you seem boring, desperate, too cocky/arrogant, if you try too hard to be funny....It can turn a woman off from wanting to chat with you because you already portrayed you're an ass.

But again, re-read this thread from start to finish...your questions have already been answered, and I hope I helped some with my input.

Good luck.

i just said this before in another thread but that first date header that was suggested on POF i got advice from another guy that putting that was a bad idea. yes, i actually went and asked guys on there on their responses and what i was doing wrong, what better person to ask than a guy who is having success right in the same area right?

Yep, this works!

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I got another response. She asked what do you think I will like about it? (referring to my profile) How should I respond?

I was thinking about sending something along the lines of

Now you know that I'm genuine. I say it like it is. I don't play games. If you want to know something about me, just ask.