Sometimes i feel that i couldve had the the girl if i hadnt used to many neggs or neggs at all. Is it better to use them in certain situation or when are they most needed.

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Risktrump

Okay, the neg may be the single most overused term and tactic on this board. It also may be the most misunderstood.

A neg is a negative compliment. What that means is that you actually compliment the woman you are talking to, but then you add something with a negative connotation. Here's an example:

"You are so sexy, it's a shame you're not my type"

That statement is a compliment, you are calling the girl sexy. You aren't being sarcastic or condescending, a neg is a candid positive remark at first. The only negative part is "it's a shame you're not my type" which isn't said in a negative tone, anyways. The whole statement is supposed to be sincere and nice in its nature. The reason it supposedly affects "value," which is a whole concept in pickup that bugs me, by the way, is that while you are complimenting the girl like most other guys probably do, you also disqualify her. Yeah, she's hot, but for whatever reason she just isn't quite up to par for you. Maybe she immediately responds by asking what your type is, that's the ideal reaction because then she is trying to convince you she is actually worth your time and effort.

The only time you need something like this is for a girl who's getting a steady stream of male attention and gets an inflated ego as a result.

Negs are bullshit. If you go around making women feel like shit, no one will want to hang out with you, let alone fuck you. Do the opposite. You can compliment women in ways that come across as confident and not needy, which will make them feel good about themselves. When you make people (both men and women) feel good about themselves, they see you as a source of good feelings and want to be around you more.

The above example of a compliment coupled with a disqualifying statement isn't bad, but I would say it's unnecessary. It could work as a playful flirtation but if a woman takes it seriously you're just setting yourself up for more work later when she starts wondering why a cool guy wants to fuck her even though she's not his type.

calibration is the key.

Is usually used during the opening. If your target is into you from the approach, no need to neg. IF she is not and has a bitch shield, neg, and move on. Don't wait for respond.

For example, If I open a 2 set, if the target is into me and being friendly, I will compliment on her being friendly. and continue gaming her ignoring the obstacle, but keeping her in the loop until my wing comes in. If the target is not being friendly, but the obstacle is, I neg the target (I tease instead of neg usually, does the same job) don't wait for reaction, keep talking to the obstacle. When my wings comes in, I say to the to him "pointing to the obstacle, she is really friendly, let me see if the other one is friendly." Then I start gaming the target while my wing is occupying the obstacle.

From what I've learned, I have to slightly disagree with both of you.

Yes, neggs can be used as an offhanded compliment. Which are great, because I never like to compliment the girls early on. DLV.

I like Gambler's style on this. Reward her when she's being good. But when she shit tests you or has a reaction you don't like, you punish her, with a negg.

Negs break rapport as well as the woman's emotional state. Negs are an old tactic in the PUA society that originated a few years ago when canned openers and routines were considered "game".

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Don't get on one knee for a girl that won't get on two for you.

Wow...I explain how negs are misinterpreted, and then posts follow maintaining the misnomer. Let's try this again:

IF YOU ARE NEGGING CORRECTLY, YOU AREN'T BEING A DICK. BEING A DICK ISN'T DHV OR DLV, IT'S JUST ANNOYING.

And yes, you rarely need to do it more than once or twice with a girl.

@DJ Z

I don't disagree with you that negs can be used in a positive way, as I explained above. Your example is good but it carries an inherent risk of misinterpretation that makes it a pointless gamble.

Aside from that, I would say that the term "neg" is generally understood as something negative (hence the term) or mildly, passive-aggressively insulting. You may be right that this is a misunderstanding, but it's common enough that it has become the standard definition.

If you want to know why I dislike negs and think they're useless, find a torrent of some products from Magic at Attraction Methods. I've seen some of his stuff and learned from a student of his. His ideas are like nothing else I've come across and I've tried all the big name methods; his stuff is the only stuff that worked for me and he has an amazing track record of students getting laid as a direct result of his training. Hell, I got second-hand training and it made all the difference!

Nothing wrong with negs if used properly.

If a girl is being friendly to me from start, I am not gonna neg her.

If she is putting on a bitch shield, you mirror. Neg her. Is a good way to bring down bitch shield.

I always mirror anyway with body langauge. If she is into me, I will be into her. If she is not, I will continue to keep plowing but IOD with body language

Period.