Yea, that’s a good way of looking at it. I’ll have to try to think of it on those terms, it’ll help me out a lot.
I could see myself doing a variation of that if I was in the right mood, and I guess it would depend on the girl too.

Funny I say that, because just today I damn near had a repeat of the exact same conversation with the same girl but I didn’t say it!

The unfortunate thing was that I didn’t have a lot of time to talk to her to try to organize a ‘date’ or some sort of meeting.

We walked back from the same class together again, and she was telling me about a girl she saw that had a seethru-type bra on, then she went on to tell me about how some of her customers (she’s a waitress) would hit on her and stare at her etc. I should have said more, but I just said something like “well, guys do stare …. Even me! … but I guess it’s just a matter of how discreet that you do it!”. That was in response to her talking about how some “old men” stare at her while she’s at work. It’s funny for me to hear that, because in reality, compared to her, I am an “old man”, so I got a bit of a chuckle out of that one. But then she says she likes it or doesn’t mind when it’s a younger good looking guy that does it.

Point is, we basically just parted ways when we went in different directions and said “see you Thursday”. So the iron is hot, and I have to strike it, or else risk losing it. She gave me lots of IOIs during class that I wont bother to mention, but yea, this is mine as long as I get the balls to ask her out.

I just need to try to ‘seed an event’ of some sort that she likes, and then suggest we both do it. For a start, I’d like to mention something we could do on campus between classes or something, but even something else such as a movie etc could work too if she happened to talk about a movie she wanted to see. I just have to get the time to talk to her a bit more to find out what she’s into.
Thanks for the link.
That’s pretty much what I need to do. If all else fails and I can’t think of any event or anything that I can ask her about, I may just ask her if she wants to ‘hang out’ sometime between classes, then suggest we trade numbers.

I’ll have to try to show up to class earlier and try to get a few minutes to talk to her. As it is now, there’s not really much time during the class that we can talk, so it’s just the relatively short walk we have back to the main building, then she goes a different way straight to her car and then home.

Maybe I could even ask her if she wants to chill for a bit and get a drink after class if she doesn’t have to leave right away to go to work or whatever. There’s a juice bar sort of thing at school that’s pretty popular, I might even ask her if she wants to grab one after class. Then from there, it’ll buy me at least 15-20 more minutes to find out more about her and plan a “real” date of some sort for next time.

I think the main point I have to drive into my head is that I cannot wait and screw around, I have to move this forward asap or else risk losing it. I can’t just keep going to class and have a 2 minute walk with her after class and listen to her tell me how guys like to look at her tits!

Anyways, thanks again man for your help and advice, I hope that I’ll have some positive news about this to report on Thursday. In the mean time, I’ll be still looking for more opportunities. I’ll be at the school tomorrow pretty much all day, so I’m hoping that I’ll have something to write about tomorrow.

Well, I really wanted to have something positive to report, but I guess it just wasn’t in the cards! I guess the word of the day is fail

Maybe I need a girl to wear a hat with a flashing red light for me to know she likes me, or maybe this chick is just hot/cold depending on the day, or maybe I should have acted already, I really don’t know.

Nevertheless, I didn’t ask her out or ask for her number, so it’s a fail whichever way you want to slice it.

She seemed just a slight bit more distant towards me today. And when the class was over, she left first. Like was it that hard to wait a few seconds for me to leave with her? She just grabbed her shit and walks out and says see you later. You'd think if she wanted to talk and give me an opportunity to ask her, she'd make a point of waiting, but she didn't.

Funny thing was, I didn’t even know it, but I caught up to her as we were walking back to the main building, she turned around and I was right there. I didn’t even realize it was her in front of me.

So I only got to walk back with her for part of the way. And for the first part, she was texting her friend, so there was no conversation. Now I know if I really wanted to I could have just said “Hey why don’t we trade numbers and hang out”, and I was going to say something like that, but just the way the whole class went, and the “off” sort of vibe I got from her today was enough to make me not even bother.

Should I have already asked her out? I don’t know, maybe. But I mean is it too fucking hard for her to be consistent 2 days in a row? .. or maybe she’s saying is it too fucking hard for this jerkoff to ask me out after I’ve given him all these IOIs?

When we got to the point where we go separate ways we just basically said “see you next week”, and that was that. Fail.

I didn’t do any more approaches this week, and to be honest I didn’t really get all that much of an opportunity. I’ve been feeling just “off” this week. For some reason, I’ve had a bit of insomnia, and my sleeping has been all fucked up, so I’ve been walking around like a zombie for a day or two, and just haven’t been feeling it.

The only times, up until now, that I’m comfortable opening a girl is if she’s on one of the benches, or she’s somewhere by herself. I would find it much harder to open a 2 set or more. I’d somehow feel I was intruding or interrupting if I just busted in on 2 girls, or even worse, a group of them.

I guess that’ll come as I get more comfortable, so because of that, my opportunities are a bit more limited, because when I’m there I’m only looking for girls that are by themselves.

I guess I’ll set out a few goals now. I know of an acronym that might help me make more specific goals. It’s called SMART goals.

Specific
Measurable
Attainable
Realistic
Timeframe

So, roughly following a template like that, here are a few of my goals:

Each and every week at school:

Approach at least 1 girl that I would be interested in and have a conversation with her.

By the end of next month – February:

Approach a girl that I’m interested in and at least attempt a number close.

By the end of the semester – beginning of April:

Approach a girl that I’m interested in, number close her, go out at least a few times and full close.

I think those goals should be specific enough, they are measurable, I’m sure I can attain them and they’re realistic, and I have a deadline that I’m working with.

You guys wanna hear something kind of fucked up? Are you ready for this? Are you sitting down? ….

Ok, well the full close is going to be quite significant, because I haven’t been laid in ….. you ready ….. well over5 years!. Yes, you read that right, it’s not a typo, not five months, but five fuckin' years. I cringe as I’m writing this, and I don’t even know why I’m sharing this info, but what the fuck, it’s the truth. Man, did shit ever change once I quit drinking.

Anyways, those are my goals, and I’m going to do my very best to achieve them.

I’ll be at the school tomorrow, so I hope I can end the week on a strong note and at least do some type of an approach and get a conversation going.

Cheers

Well, imagine that . . . a chick who is hot/cold depending on the day. LOL. This is the definition of a woman.
Just act now.
Your life doesn't revolve around her and her life doesn't revolve around you. Maybe she had to rush home to shit? Maybe she's constipated? Maybe she had to switch out her maxi pad? Who knows? You don't ask a girl out because you think she wants you to ask her out. You ask a girl out because YOU want to take her out.
One short conversation is all it takes to figure out reality. You're creating fantasy scenarios. I am sure the 'vibe' is real . . . but you have no idea about the source of that 'vibe' or if it has anything to do with you.
^Lots of maybe's and I don't knows. . . No reason at all to make decisions based on maybe's and I don't knows. And if you desire consistency, consider dating digital clocks instead of women. Blaming women for inconsistency is like blaming the rain for being wet. This is just reality.

That’s pretty much it. Shit may have already gone sour, I’ll see her tomorrow (Tues), so we’ll see what happens. One thing I know is that I’m not going to let this drag on too long, I’ll either ask her tomorrow, or at the latest Thursday, or else I’ll just leave it and work on other girls.

Nothing too exciting to update today, but I saw the girl that I talked to for 30-40 minutes on the benches 2 weeks ago. She’s the one that I gave my number to, but I didn’t get hers. I’ll call her “model face”, because she has a very pretty face.

I was sitting on the benches looking down at my phone, when she came by and waved a piece of paper in my face as she passed by. I looked up, said hi, and we both smiled and that was it. It was a busy hallway, and she looked like she was in a rush or had somewhere to go – she didn’t stop to talk. And that was the first time that I saw her since two weeks ago when I first met her. Oh well, at least she acknowledged me anyways, for what that’s worth! Lol

I did another brief “approach” just for the practice. I sat on the benches near a girl, and asked her my usual “do you know where such and such office is?”. It wasn’t much of an interaction, and we exchanged a few words and I left it at that. She had a chest cold, and it sounded like she was about to cough up a lung, so I didn’t bother trying to take it further even though she seemed pretty friendly.

What I did well

My voice was calm, clear, and I didn’t seem nervous at all. Since I asked the usual line about where a particular office was, it seems that I can open with a fair bit of confidence using that opener.

What I should have done

I’m still waiting too long before I open. It wasn’t like I sat there and choked, or kept looking over but didn't saying anything. But I should ask a question like that very soon after sitting down, because if I wait too long, it may seem kind of odd that I’m there for several minutes then all of a sudden bust out and ask for directions.

I could have easily kept the conversation going with her a bit. She wasn’t necessarily my ‘type’, but I still could use the practice so next time I should keep the conversation going. After a bad week last week, I just wanted to at least talk to a new person so I wouldn’t get too ‘rusty’, or slip back to a point where my AA returns to where it was when I first started.

There were 2 more opportunities that I had but didn’t open, and I should have. The girls weren’t really great maybe HB7at most, but still, I need the practice and having a harmless conversation would be good practice regardless.

Hopefully I’ll have better things to report tomorrow. I’ll be in my “lab” class tomorrow with the girl that I usually walk back to the main building with. I guess I’ll call her “lab girl”, so we’ll see what happens tomorrow.

Well, once again, disappointingly, I don’t have anything of significance to report as another week at school has come to a close.

Update on “lab girl”

I saw her in class on Thursday, but we haven’t really had the same type of partner activities to do, so the only time I had any chance to talk to her was after class. Well, when class was over, once again she grabbed her stuff and just walked out.

I left a moment or two after she did, and I saw her ahead of me as I left the building on my way walking back to the main building. Part of the way back, I saw a guy I knew with his friend in a car, so I stopped to talk to them for about a minute. After I left them and continued my walk, “lab girl” comes up from behind and says hi.

I was thinking she might have stopped and waited for me or something, who knows, because like I said she left first and should have already been back to the main building by that time. Anyways, we just walked back the remainder of the way together, and I could tell that she was into talking to me. I was a bit quieter, and she did a lot of the talking. I’ve sort of backed of slightly, and I get the vibe that she’s slightly chasing me now, or at least she’s showing interest anyways.

I’ll only see her once next week, next Thursday, as our class is cancelled for Tuesday. It still seems like things should be on, but once again with the short walk there wasn’t a lot of time for me to change subjects and ask for her # because we were busy talking about something else. That's an excuse, I know, and like Kasabi said, it only takes a quick question to cut through all this bullshit of what if/maybe etc and just get down to it and figure out what the reality of the situation is.

Man, I told myself I wouldn’t let this drag on, but it looks like it’s happening that way anyways. Damn. And like I said, what sucks is that I’ll only see her once next week, and if I’m “lucky” it’ll only be for a short walk back to the main building after class. If I don't act very soon, I'm running the risk of this going stale, and I'd be very pissed off at myself if I let that happen. It's time to just man the fuck up, grab some balls, and get her number.

Other than that, I did have a couple of opportunities to talk/approach a few girls, but I didn’t. Like last week, this week wasn’t a good week either. I got a tooth pulled on Tuesday, so with a sore mouth with stitches and an open wound I didn’t feel all that talkative on Wednesday. Thursday was a short day, and I had no class on Friday(today). So the week just seemed to slip by.

Well, I did talk to one girl this week, so I did accomplish the goal that I had set out of at least approaching and talking to one new girl each week.

I know for next week I will definitely approach at least one girl, and hopefully #close “lab girl” on Thursday.

Well, I’m glad to report some progress today.

Results:

3 approaches, 1 #close

I’m quite happy, as one of my goals for the month of February was to #close, and I’ve achieved that already with more than half of the month remaining.

First approach

This took place in the library. The library has a section with benches and seats that are all placed together, so it’s a great place to meet girls and talk. The area isn’t separated into individual tables, just long rows of seats, some arranged in medium and large circles, so it’s great for interacting. I’m going to spend a lot more time in this area.

Last week I saw a girl in a particular spot, and she was there again today. There were actually 2 girls, one a HB7.5, and another one HB6. I recognized both of them from last week. They weren’t there together, but they were just sitting in the same spot by themselves.

I sat down more or less in between them, and just started looking through some of my notes. I waited too long to act, as the HB7.5 packed up her stuff and left. My plan was to ask her to watch my stuff for a minute just for some initial conversation.

Since the HB7.5 left, I thought what the hell, I’ll try to talk to the HB6 since she was still there. I stood up, then asked her if she was going to be still there for a minute or two. She seemed startled, and to be honest, that threw me off a little bit. She said she wasn’t going to be there for long, but I said I’ll be back in a minute, and she said that was fine. I believe asking her to do this was one step of the “compliance ladder” that I’ve read about. I made a little joke by saying, “well there’s not really anything of value there in my school bag for anyone to steal, but hey, you never know!”. She gave a nervous kind of smile and I left for a minute. When I came back, we just made eye contact, smiled, and I said thanks, and that was about it. A few minutes later she got up and left.

My mistakes

I should have asked her to watch my stuff while I was still sitting down. Standing up and looking down on her seemed to “scare” her a little, or catch her off guard. I can understand how she felt in a way, because the same thing happened to me in my third approach that I’ll talk about shortly.

The other thing I did wrong, once again, is that I waited too long. The one I wanted to talk to got up and left before I got around to opening her.

Second approach

This one took place in one of my ‘usual’ spots on the benches. I’ve seen this girl around before, and she’s one of the ones that I thought may have given me IOIs before the Christmas break, but I did nothing, and the next few times I saw her she pretty much ignored me.

So anyways, there she was sitting down alone, so I decided what the hell, I’ll try to talk to her just to see how it goes. She’s a pretty good looking girl, an easy HB8. So I sat down, and a few moments later I opened her with my usual do you know where such and such office is on campus. Well, for the first time this sort of backfired on me because she replied that she didn’t know where it was and said sorry. I wasn’t prepared for that, and I basically smiled and said it’s ok, but didn’t follow up with anything else. She seemed a little shy/surprised when I opened her, but I just sort of went blank after that, because I was expecting her to know where that office was. Since I’m used to using that opener, I did well. My voice was loud and clear, and I didn’t stutter or seem nervous at all.

I was going to continue a few moments later with asking her if she’s new on campus, or had just never heard of that office. But after a moment or two, I decided to do the “compliance” thing again, and I asked her if she was going to be still sitting there for a minute or two, and she replied by saying she was. Disappointingly, when I asked her that, she didn’t even look up at me at all and gave me no eye contact! After she said she was going to be there, I threw in my little joke about how there’s not much in my school bag that anyone would want to steal, but hey, you never know, and she sort of chuckled/smiled but still didn’t give me eye contact. At this point, she seemed a little stuck up/bitchy to me. So I just went to the washroom for a minute and came back and didn’t say anything else. I think if I see her again, I might just do the “so what do you have going for you besides your looks” thing, because either I read her wrong, of she had her bitch shield up a little bit.

I was going to continue, and a good opportunity came when someone dumped a drink in the hallway close to the benches that we were sitting on. I didn’t bother, and I’m glad that I didn’t. She was getting up to leave, and just at the same moment she was packing up her stuff and putting her jacket on, another girl (HB8) that I’ve seen around and made eye contact with, stops at the bench right beside me and starts going through her bag. This is the next approach. The “bitchy” one got up and left and that was that.

Third approach - #close

So I used the spilled drink as my opener to talk to her. I said something like “you know, I’m just waiting for one of these people who walk down the hallway texting with their head down to walk into the puddle and wipe out!”. She laughed, and that’s how I started the conversation. She remained standing, and I sort of felt a little weird having her right in front of me but looking down on me, so now I know how the girl in the library must have felt.

We talked for about 5-7 minutes about school, and it turned out she was in the same major that I am, so we chatted a little about courses, teachers and a few other basic things. She had to go to class, and I said something like “so we should talk again, what’s the best way for me to get a hold of you?” She did the work for me! She said that she could get my number, and I could get hers! So I got her name, and put her number in my phone, then just texted her so she’d have my number too. That felt great, I got a #close. I'll refer to her as "Ukrainian blondie".

It was a shaky day up until that point, and I’m really glad that I pulled that off. I really needed that today, as I must admit that my confidence was slightly shaken due to my first two approaches not really working out as I had planned.

Regarding Lab Girl:

How much "balls" does it take to talk about a coffee shop, bar, or park? When you raise these topics, it will be HER who gives YOU positive feedback for those places/events. You are not a telemarketer. You are not making cold calls and offering cheaper long distance rates. This girl is already comfortable with you. People who are comfortable with each other go out and have ice cream together once in a while. 12 year old kids do this together. Read "I like you, you like me" again and look at the dynamics of the conversation. . . it flows towards BOTH PARTIES agreeing to have fun. You make it seem as if you're a hunter who is crouched and ready to pounce on some victim who has no idea what's going on. That's not the way it works. Just utter out the first sentence to the direction of a 'fun event'. She'll meet you half way.

Library Fails:

Take it easy with your 'mistake' analysis. Sure, a solid game might make girls change their plans but if they have a schedule, most will follow it. No such thing as waiting too long to open, especially in a libraries where most people usually keep to themselves and work. You should be busy with some of your work any ways. It's actually a great place to be writing down opener ideas and practicing the idea for "being in the moment".

First HB8:

Well, I guess that's the problem with no-reason cans. Your open topic is merely an excuse to chat. You're presenting yourself through an eagerness to learn more about buildings and their locations on your campus. Does this sound like a fascinating character to you? The girl didn't have a 'bitch shield', you simply bored her to death.

Second HB8:

. . . It doesn't take much to get a number does it? Now work it for a date!

Yeah, I hear what you’re saying. I guess I’ve just screwed around and waited a bit too long to say something that should be natural. Once I’ve waited a bit, it just makes it that much harder to finally do it. I’m just going to end up asking her if she wants to have a coffee/drink or hang out when we both have a spare then suggest we exchange numbers.

Unfortunately, the lab class was cancelled both days this week so I won’t get a chance to see her until next Tuesday.
Our library has a few different sections. One section is a ‘quiet’ section, one is a ‘semi quiet’ section, and another one is pretty much like a lounge area that is pretty loud. This is the area that I was sitting in.

I’m always looking at my notes or reading something, as I don’t want to be ‘that guy’ that’s just constantly scanning the library for chicks! But I hear what you’re saying though.
Yeah, I wasn’t prepared for her not knowing where that office was. I should have just continued with what I was planning on saying instead of just letting it die out. I guess I’ll eventually move into direct openers, but like I was saying in one of my first few posts, I think at least for now the indirect way is easier for me while I’m still starting out and getting myself back in the game. I would use a direct opener now, but that would be in a situation where I was getting definite IOIs from a girl, like lots of eye contact, smiles, etc.

And yea, I guess asking for directions then following that up with asking her to watch my bag wasn’t exactly ramping up the sexual energy was it! Lol

If I had of only continued a bit, I had a few little jokes or one-liners I would throw in there to make things seem not so dull, but I hear what you’re saying. At least for now, I’m just using these canned opener type of things just to make conversation, then my “plan” from there is to try to gauge her interest in talking to me and move forward from there.

I have a long way to go still, and my game certainly needs some refinement, but I’ll try to utilize all the advice you give me, and I do appreciate you following along.
Yea, it flowed really smoothly and didn’t seem like it was hard at all once the convo was over. I think I’ll text her tomorrow to just say hi, then as long as she replies I might try to set up some sort of a meeting with her next week.

Whether you are asking your mother, professor, friend, sister, or a potential mate out for a day of fun, there is no early or late. You don't live in a timeless vacuum and you are not asking this girl to bear you a son. Take a field trip to a coffee shop and take a look. Do you think everybody couple sitting together are there because the guy 'finally' dropped the 'let's go get a coffee bomb' on a girl? People do this all the time. People meet, people befriend each other. They go out. It's a part of life.
The issue here isn't 'direct' vs. 'indirect' but 'reality' vs. 'fake'. The conversation with the one you number closed flowed smoothly because you began with reality. Unless you're an actor, begin with reality.

*By the way, next time you get a number, call her on the spot so she has your number too. Don't bother waiting too long to call.

I hear you, I'm making too big of a deal about something that should just flow naturally. I'll see her this Tuesday, so I'm sure I'll have some news to report then.
I'll try to use situational openers as much as I can vs my canned direction openers. I guess I'll have to get a bit better at coming up with situational openers, but when someone spills a drink in a hallway like last week, then it's easy, but obviously that's not going to happen all the time.

I texted "Ukranian blondie" just to say hi, and I found out that she's studying for a test that she has on Tuesday. I might text her Monday wishing her luck on her test and asking if she wants to meet up after her test or if not Wednesday.

One other unimportant thing I haven't mentioned yet, is that I never realized how many other journals were already titled "afc to pua - my journey", or something very similar. I guess I read a few titles and had that general phrase in my head as I was creating my thread. Oh well, not really that important I suppose.

Well, I'm getting over a flu/cold that started on Friday, so I hope I'm feeling better tomorrow for school. This week might be a tough week for getting new numbers and doing approaches as I have a few things to do directly after class that will prevent me from hanging around campus for too long.

Hopefully between "Ukranian blondie" and "lab girl" I'll have some news to report on them even if I don't get the chance to meet anyone else.

Don't just 'try', practice. Sit with a notepad and write down all the possible openers you'd use on random girls. The more you practice, the more aware you will become of unique situations.
It's not just a 'meet up'. Make it specific and make it fun. Read "I like you, you like me" and try to figure out why that is a better route than, "Let's hang out on Friday." As a guy who is looking to launch his dating life, you should have several of these ideas on the tip of your tongue. You should be able to rattle off a bunch of different ideas in almost every situation. You should have in mind a few go-to bars(oops, I forgot you don't drink), clubs, parks, museums, restaurants, rides, etc . . . You should have in mind how to make these outings interesting for her.

Have fun . . .

I do have a few in mind, but what I'll do now is start to write them down and keep adding to my list. You're right, using openers like that will be much more natural and I think things will flow much better doing it that way. I should have been doing this before, I know. I'm going to start thinking in terms of situational openers much more now. I'm liking this idea.
It's strange, I can't find the "I like you, you like me" post. I know you linked it for me in my journal, but your post at the bottom of page 1 of my journal is linking me to a different thread for some reason, and you don't even have a post in it. I don't know if that's a temporary glitch, or somehow the link changed. I even looked through Ronny C's journal to see if you posted it there, but I don't believe that you did. I tried searching for it using your name and "I like you, you like me", but didn't have any luck. I'll try again.

But I know what you're saying, talking about an actual fun event is way better than simply saying, "let's hang out on Friday".

I guess I need to come up with more ideas. Although I don't have to, I would kind of prefer to make the first "date" on campus, especially with "Ukranian Blondie" considering I've only spoken to her for 5-7 minutes. I think she'd be more comfortable and much more likely to agree if it was something on campus. But there are places to eat/drink there of course, so maybe I'll suggest having luch/drink at a particular spot instead of just saying let's hang out.

Well, I won’t lie, I’m pissed off today.

Just one of those days when things just seem like they’re working against you.

I started off the day sending “Ukrainian blondie” a quick text saying something like “Good morning, happy Valentines day! good luck on your test!”. And you wanna know what pissed me off? I didn’t even get a reply back! Lol. . fuck this. Now I know I shoulda/coulda said more in the text like I was originally planning on. I was going to ask her if she wanted to meet up for a drink or something after her test, but I thought I’d just start off like that, expecting her to at least reply back with something as simple as “thanks”, but no, no dice.

I thought if she was the least bit interested she would have replied. It makes me shake my head, because she gave me definite IOIs when I first met her, and before that we had looked at each other a few times in the hallways and made eye contact. So I don’t know what gives. Oh well, fuck Ukrainian blondie. I really can’t see myself sending her another text when she didn’t even reply to me today.

What rubbed salt in my wounds was seeing all the chicks walking down the hallways today with roses and chocolate and valentines gifts etc and I didn’t even get a simple fuckin’ text message back!

Next, “lab girl”. Well, I think I might say fuck “lab girl” too.

I think I’ll probably drop that class. I had a little bit of minor drama with the teacher today, and from day one I didn’t like him, and now I think I’ll drop the class. He’s the type of dick that tries to speak to people in a condescending manner, and I just can’t hack that at all.

I didn’t even talk to “lab girl” during class, and I barely spoke a word because I was pissed off. She actually asked me if I was sick, and I just said “no”. After class, like she’s done a lot lately, she just grabbed her shit and left, so I didn’t see her or walk with her back to the main building.

Just a thought, and this might look stupid, but I might consider showing up to class on Thursday, and before it starts basically pull her aside, tell her I’m dropping the class, and get her #. It’s the only real chance I’d have, because the odds are slim I’ll ever run into her around campus if I drop the class. It could work, because she’s always there early waiting for it to start, so I could easily show up early, talk to her for a minute, tell her briefly about the “drama” that happened today, then tell her I just decided that I’m done in the class and mention going out and exchanging #s.

I don’t know whether that would make me look silly or not. It would seem like I just showed up to ask her that, maybe that’s something I shouldn’t even ‘worry’ about. I’ll have to think about this with a clear head tomorrow.

I don’t know, maybe I’ll say fuck the class, and fuck lab girl too. Did I mention that I’m pissed off today? Lol. . man, I don’t know, just one of those days.

On the bright side, I did spend some time in the library writing up some situational opener ideas that I can use. So far, I have 8 that I came up with, and I’ll try to add to the list and think of more, or different variations of the ones that I already have.

Update:

Today’s results:

FB closed “lab girl”
Saw “Ukrainian blondie” in the hallway, said hi
Brief chat with (2) HB6 in the library

FB closed “lab girl”

Well, when I left the school even though I got her facebook, I still considered this result to be a fail. I went to the class, and my plan was to pull her aside before it started, mention that we should hang out, then #close her.

When I got there, unfortunately she was talking in a group of 4 or 5 people, so I couldn’t isolate her to talk. I was thinking that I was going to end up walking away from the class without talking to her, and I had already decided that I wasn’t going to attend the class anymore, so this was my last shot.

Just before it was about to start, I pulled her aside and said hi. For the first time she kino’d me when she said hi and put her hand on my shoulder. I made up an excuse why I showed up to the class but wasn’t going to attend. I knew I had about 30 seconds at most at this point, so the interaction was a little rushed. I just said something like “we should hang out sometime”, and she said with a slightly surprised look on her face, “yeah!”. So then I said "what’s the best way for me to get a hold of you?", she goes “umm facebook!”. Lol.. So she told me how to spell her last name, and that was pretty much it. I left.

Well, I’ll get to the point. I go home, look up her name on Facebook, and she has a picture of her with a guy with his arm around her on her profile! Lol … and her status said “in a relationship”! lol, fuck this. Well anyways, scratch that one, I’m moving on. There’s a lot more girls out there, and I’m not wasting my time with a chick with a boyfriend. Besides, to me, telling me the best way to contact her is Facebook is a bit of a brushoff anyways. I was expecting her to give me her number. But now I guess it makes sense, she’s not single.

Lessons learned

In the future, I’m going to find out pretty much right away if girls I’m talking to have boyfriends or not. It would save me a lot of hassle and wasted energy and time trying to pursue them.

I’ll also not wait this long to “ask them out”, or suggest we go on some type of a date. This class started at the beginning of January, and it’s now mid-February and I’m just getting around to asking her out now. That’s way too long.

She gave me IOI’s right at the beginning, but maybe nothing ever would have come of it, who knows. But the point is that I’m making a mistake by not finding out this sort of shit sooner. There’s a good chance that “model face”, and “Ukrainian blondie” have boyfriends too, because I never confirmed or asked them if they were single either. I’m just realizing now what a mistake that is/was. I could save myself a lot of time and effort by just getting that sort of shit figured out from the start. All this time I could be screwing around trying to game chicks that are already taken. Lesson learned.

”Ukrainian Blondie"

I saw her in the hallway coming out of the washroom, and there wasn’t really many people around. What a cold interaction that was. We just passed each other, I said “hey”, and she barely looked and said “hey” back and we both kept walking. Another one to scratch off the list.

(2) HB6s in the Library

I was in the library in the ‘lounge’ area again thinking of a few more openers when the 2 girls sat close to me .One was throwing something in the garbage and making a basketball shot out of it, and her friend said something like “that guy’s gonna think you’re nuts!”, and I just laughed and said something like “ah, I’m just watching ready to cheer you on!”. A minute or two later I asked them to watch my bag for a minute, and said my usual little joke about how I don’t know why anyone would want to steal my books, and when I got back she sort of continued my joke by telling me she had to fight some people off because they were going to take it!. I just joked and said something like "ah, so there were some people sneaking around scoping it out eh?" .. we just laughed and made another comment or two and that was it.

Well, and that’s about all I have to report, sadly.

It looks like this journal will fall near the bottom of the heap, because I’ll be away for most/all of next week and at this point it looks highly unlikely that I’ll be doing any approaches, so there won’t be anything to update this journal with unfortunately.

In the mean time, I’m going to work on some more situational openers, and try to psyche myself up for the following week and try to really go hard and take things to the next level when I get back.

Cheers.

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