Hi guys,

Total newbie here. A bit of background about myself. I wouldn't consider myself socially inept or ugly. On the contrary, I believe I get along fine with people, look at least average and am quite active. My biggest problem is that I'm too self-conscious. This lead to a cycle where I have never been able to close because of confidence issues and things started to spiral. I'm done relying on luck and will do anything I have to to break out of this cycle. Need any help I can get on how change the situation. I'm planning on going out into the field tonight and putting some basics into play to see how things turn out. Any tips would be much appreciated.

I'm currently in the UK.

Cheers,

notyetafree_bird

Hello dude and welcome

This is what this place is all about, helping people to give themselves options.

Have you done any reading on PU? The Game, Mystery Method etc?

Where about's in the UK are you?

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I'm in the process of reading The Game, I just love how the game has been reduced to a science. It's fascinating. I'm currently based in Cambridge. @Body Language - Will keep your sig in mind for my night out in London tomorrow.

That book is a terrific read! Try reading, and doing his other book: Rules of The Game next. Im yet to start but apparently its life changing! I would also recommend Magic Bullets by Savoy and The Mystery Method.

That's a shame your so far out, im searching for some aspiring wings SPAM. Me and my pals are all trying to get into this stuff but I think I might be a little more into it than them :s

Yeah that 1-4 question requires you to hold there hand (insta kino and compliance ) and stare into there eyes(sexual tension), give them mind reading bull lingo and constantly smile. I had one girl tell me 7, much to my delight. Gave me a good chance to neg her and get all her friends laughing

Well enjoy it all, its a whole new world out there

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@ free bird :

I strongly recommend you to AVOID any kind of indirect shit written books like " The Game " or " Mistery Method"

I was in same position as you and started with indirect first but I could not get laid, I just couldnt.
The only thing that was in my mind were questions routines, DHV stories, bodylanguage, attraction, openers confidence - I was mentally masturbating which fucked up my inner "Natural Ego"

Right now, you might have diffrent things in your mind
If you want to have a quick , but smooth change of yourself towards women
, the first thing to go for is the book " 60 Years of Challenge "
You have to " reformat your brain "
Loosing old mindsets that´ll prevent yourself from sucess

And yes, getting laid is way easier when applying those techniques.

See, its not a " magic pill "
It´ll help you stayin natural without any hassles.

Do not waste your time on anything that wont you get any futher - you want to get laid
As you said, your almost 24 now.
Just my thoughts, I love being direct and natural, its fuckin awesome cause its about you being a MAN - not a pussy


Stick with this, you´ll love it

First off, I wouldn't go calling peoples livelihoods shit. Its rude and obnoxious. The authors spent a lot of time teaching themselves what worked and then released it for the masses.

If the stuff didn't work for you (and if it didn't I would say you were doing it wrong not the book) then fine but don't ram your one sided opinion on other people. I dont want a war but you cam off as pretty aggresive

Plus I don't think there is a "quick" and "smooth" way to completely change your perspective on women.

Just my two cents

Body Language

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To all the people who describe the mystery method as dated and ineffective. I'm sure if you went out with Mystery he would leave you in his wake!

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@ Kent

Your advise is only good for experienced guys or semi-naturals. 98% of people looking for help are bad at talking to women because of many things. Your advice is like throwing a ten year kid the keys to a car and saying "Fly this plane". It's confusing to them and obviously being himself has not got him anywhere.

Also how do you intend a person with zero self confidence is going to do with 60?
I can predict the outcome right now and seriously that not even really game.

All that stuff mystery, david d, ect... teach makes a person become better at having conversations, better body language and not looking like a desperate loser.[/quote]