Some background info about me, I have my Diploma in cooking and currently working as full time cook. That being said I had an idea for an opener...

Basically its asking for a female perspective, mention you and your friend were trying to figure out what makes cooking an attractive feature in men.
So what I came up with so far is the following,

"I need a female perspective, me and my friend were talking about different kinds of careers and which careers are boring and which interesting (this part seems weak IMO), I heard before that women think a man who can cook is sexy, but he doesn't believe that, so whats your take on a man who can cook (or maybe just say a cook)."
Then I can follow by saying which careers are a turn on for us guys (ex: nurses, also maybe if used to open bartender, can mention that a bartender is a sexy career)

Cooking is a great DHV, whenever I mention that im a cook to a HB, she immediately takes great interest in me and starts asking a bunch of questions.

Im going to field test this soon but its still not perfected, im relatively new to this.
Should I mention that im a cook or enjoy cooking? If not how should I dodge the issue if it comes up and for how long?
Also lets say she is a bartender or I find out what she does or what she is studying, should I act like its a cool career choice or should I say it sounds dull or nothing at all.

Thanks.

Any support/opinions welcomed

Here's the main problem I see with this opener. You are basically saying, "I'm a cook, is that ok?" It's approval seeking, and therefore a demonstration of lower value. I'd rephrase the opener this way:

You: My friend is trying to figure out what to do with his life, and has narrowed the decision down to one question, what career will make him the most attractive to women. I told him he's off his rocker but he's going around asking every girl he sees what career is the sexiest. What do you guys think?

HB: OMG that's so wrong blah blah blah but actually I think trapese artists are sexy (or whatever)

The conversation can go two directions: 1) should your friend be using this as a criteria for a major life decision, and 2) what are the careers that turn them on. Two threads for the price of one.

Ultimately, one of them will ask you what you do for a living (which is an indicator of interest). You can then tell them, "I'm a cook, and I already told him that that's the sexiest career choice there is, but he won't listen to reason." So you aren't even asking their opinion about your job. You already KNOW it rocks. They will likely ask about being a cook, or give more IOIs by saying they agree it's great when a man knows how to cook. Again, this can go a few different positive directions.

I'd like to see other people's take on this, but I think you have a workable opener if you take it the direction I suggest. Get away from asking what they thing about you and your career, move into broader territory and pick up all the gold nuggets you find there.

Good luck.

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Thanks Zen, I thought it came off too cheesy.
What if they answer cooking is sexy, should I jump in make a loud sound and stay thats what I told him, then follow up by saying its what I do? Or maybe just share my opinion with them and leave out that im a cook.

Also assuming they do not mention cooking or ask me what I do or think, would it be appropriate to throw the cooking in there?

Because ideally I want to send the message that im a cook, I already know women find it attractive, I like your version my opener, going to work on it some more, but want to hear more opinions.

I would also like to hear other opinions.
To address your questions, don't ask, don't tell. If they don't ask what you do for a living, don't tell them. It's too "try hard".

That said, it seems inevitable that they will ask given the topic of conversation. If no one in the set is interested in what you do for a living, that's a very bad sign. How many people have you met in your life that didn't ask this question. It comes right after "what's your name" in most first time meetings.

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yup i do agree with wad zen says..but its a good opener though..i tink i'll use it as well..lol..but i'm a teacher though...will it work the same way?

Hi

Women don't like cooks........

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first tell them your a chef

tell them you need an opinion ask them do help you design a dish and tell them you may name it after them but the chances for them are slim ask about what they like in their foods

another thig go to where you work make a dish send to a hb then ask for their opinion on it be sure to do it to more than one person at a time so it doesn't look suspicious if they luv it instant dhv

Im not a Chef, im a cook theres a difference, I like the second idea except in restaurants you dont own you cant give out free food lol.

Zen - I thought of a sticking point, what if the HB says "Are you your "friend"" implying that Im the one whos looking for a new career choice.

i know your not a chef but there are like ten cooks in the kitchen at one time

i use to work at a golf course/cafe and they were alot of cooks the chef my boss and my dads friend got the most hbs and hes 50 besides everyone down to the dishwasher could eat for free and give free meals as long as it wasnt too much i guess it depends on your boss i just made the subs and soups to go but the cafr had their steak costing nearly forty bucks 4 star golf course

btw which do you think sounds better cook or chef

That's the opening you were looking for to let her know what you do, but first neg her back:

HB: Are you your "friend"
You: Actually it's your dad, but he asked me not to tell you.
OR, Why, do you still have imaginary friends? It's ok to admit it if you do.

after either of these you say, "Actually, I'm quite happy with my job, but I do like to help a friend in need." (This baits her to ask what you job is, and shows that you're a good friend.)

Good luck.

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Haha smooth Zen, looks like I have most of it covered now.

Yes there is a difference between Chefs and Cooks.
Anyone can be a cook, you dont need any special training (Flipping burgers at McDonalds would qualify as a cook, since your part of the kitchen staff)
Obviously the pay and responsibilities range from different types of restaurants. Fine Dinning and Hotels still have cooks except their talents include more then flipping a hamburger.
Chefs on the other hand are the mangers of the kitchen, all those different types of dishes on the menu, are thought up by the Chef or Restaurant owner. More then thinking of great foods the Chef must order the products and make sure that all the food is being used efficiently (no shortage or no excess to save money) along with keeping his staff in line.
Larger kitchens have Sous-Chefs (Sous meaning under in french), as the name suggests these are the Chef's number twos.

People who dont know better refer to me as a Chef (I dont want to be rude and correct them ) but there is a difference and when I asked what I do I always answer truthfully "I work in a kitchen" or "Im a cook at..."

Also fast food places do not have Chefs, the mangers assume this responsibility and do not general cook in the kitchen.

Think of Chefs as the Generals and Cooks as their Solders, best example I can give.

One more thing you should incorporate into your opener is a time restraint. Whenever a man comes up to a woman at a bar, club, ect. they automatically think "time to get hit on". If you put this time restraint in place they will think, "hmmm he just wants a quick answer". You can also use this later on in the conversation to kind of push and pull or to move the set to a different place in the bar. Maybe to where your friends are. Once in your domain, they have to prove themselves to you. they are the outsiders. I would go with, "Can I get your opinion on something? It will have to be quick though because my friends are waiting on me." This technique is shown in "The Game" and Annihilation Method by Neil Strauss aka Style. I'd suggest looking at both of them. Annihilation Method is a live movie that shows examples. Good luck!

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