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WHAT DOES ALPHA MEAN ?

This is quite controversial. Alpha status may mean many things but the essence of alpha is that it exudes "POWER" through either physical appearance , status , fame and or money ; however they must know how to escalate sexually and shot interest in order to have a woman sexually.


Being an "excessive" Alpha

Shy women will feel intimidated by the Alpha male unless the Alpha learns how to "calibrate". If an Alpha comes too strong to a woman by doing a "hardcore SOI" he will end up making her reject him. (in this case it is indicated to make an apology and try to reason with her) * shy women will seek "relationships" with both alpha and betas.

You can apologize to a woman if you come in too strong IF SHE SAYS SO. ( apologize about the way you behaved , but no for wanting what you want)

Ex : "I apologize for those bad words , but i will not apologize for wanting what I want"

1.Ex : A woman wants to have a one night stand and makes the decision to go a club(logic) . From the 100 men in that club she likes only 1 because he exudes the most confidence , he is the alpha male (instinct) . The other 99 men are options in case the alpha male is not interested (logic )

Alpha male is interested and she is open to his advances (instinct)
Alpha male is not interested and she gets approached by a Beta ; she wants sex but she shit tests him in order to prove himself. (logic)


2.Ex : A woman is physically attracted to an Alpha Male and has sex with him. (instinct)
She and the Alpha Male get into a relationship (logic). Alpha Male breaks up with her and she wants him back (instinct). She uses methods like making him jealous to get him back (logic). She can't get him back and starts a new relationship with a Beta because he is "safe" (logic). While being in a relationship with the beta she gets impregnated by an Alpha (instinct). She chooses to marry the beta while carrying Alpha's child (logic)
*A BABY ISN'T NECESSARY TO BE INVOLVED.

Only 3 situation under which a man and a woman will develop a romantic relationship.

1. He sweeps her off her feet and it's on from the first second.(instinct)
2. The man that is relaxed and acts normal and makes a general good impression but has to go but eventually comes back (both instinct and logic)
3. Sharing a common goal for a long time (logic)

Conditions under which those things happen.

1. He sweeps her off her feet and it's on from the first second. Not only he has to be Alpha he has to have something in common with the women and she must be emotionally available.

2. The man that is relaxed and acts normal and makes a general good impression but has to go but eventually comes back. The majority of relationships start this way (dates). They don't like each other from the first minute but they eventually give it a shot.

3.Sharing a common goal for a long time. Friends for a long time and the relationship comes from necessity.

*Conclusion : men and women have a tendency to equalize themselves. You may have sex with beautiful women but the woman you end up is the woman who has the same social level , interest , energy , standards as you , depending on the phase on your life you are going trough. This is the reason why men and women choose long term partners within their age.

To smile or not to smile

Depends on the situation. Smiling makes people look friendly.

Smiling while making a bold statement. (may look deceiving)
Not smiling while making a bold statement. (people take it literally)

Talk less or more

The more you talk to a woman the less likely she will fall in love with you. Talking while gesticulating and being a high energy man will not appeal to most women because is not masculine. This is the reason why many man can't seduce

If you talk less people will try to fill in the information they want from their imagination or their perceived image. Also it makes people fill in the blanks.

Ex :

- Me : "i make a statement"
Her : "she makes a statement'
Me : " i explain my statement"
Her : "gives her explanation"
Me : "I fuel the subject"
Her : "she fuels the subject"
Me : "i make another statement"
Her : "she makes another statement or denies / accepts my own"
Me : " I do not say anything"
Her: " she continues the conversation because she was expecting a reply"


Types of women

This is the MAIN REASON why men are inconsistent when it comes to sex and relationship.

The most important thing in life in general is to know what you want. The thing that you want will not appeal to some type of women.

The women that are branded as "easy" share the same personality , nuns share the same personality , very beautiful women share the same personality and standards.

Ex : An 18 year old boy will not appeal sexually to a 25 year old model because he doesn't have what she is looking for. (neither confidence or money)

Some women will marry rich betas and have sex with Alphas.

If a man wants to have sex with as many women as possible he needs different tactics with different women and also take into account logistics.

The 3 male archetypes.

Dad , cad and dom.

1. Dad. The majority of men are "dads" since they are the typical good guy and women use them as emotional support. (marriage , friendship , sexually "inhibited" and promotes social values ). They seek rapport and comfort.

2. Cads. The men that create a "bad boy" image that appeals to women sexually and women would rate them as the perfect short term sexual partners. the majority won't engage in rapport and comfort ( yet they know how to engage in these kind of situations). Ex : bikers

3. Dom. They are a hybrid between dads and cads , yet they exude power (leaders > CEO's). They may have the bad boy attitude , yet their image is of a "dad". Woman find this men as the prime candidates for a "relationship" ; they have the power to be fuck buddies and / or engage in an intimate relationship.

Attachment

This is true for both men and women.

If a person has sex after a period of abstinence , he/she will attach themselves emotionally to that person and seek further relations. Either abstinence from sex or being single for a long time ; having sex , being friends with a person with higher value, this being the reason for teen pregnancy (being the first one to have initiated her in sex)

The myth of making her horny

Beta males will often argue that makes a "SOI" will make her lose interest ; this is some what an interesting problem.

A beta male (young boys , male adults with no body language or physical alpha characteristics) will often argue that making an SOI will make the women lose interest.

1. Ex : A beta will make an SOI on a woman trying to have fun with her friends and does not have the intention of having a one night stand or looking for a potential boyfriend. In this case the beta and the Alpha will not appeal to her not matter thier intentions.

2. Ex : She is there to have a ONS and the beta makes a "soi". She will resist at first GIVING the impression that she may lose interest. A beta may make a soi in the form of "KNOWING" a woman and in this case she loses interest. "DO YOU HAVE A BOYFRIEND ?" , " i FIND YOU CUTE AND WANT TO KNOW YOU"

The formulation above is congruent with the beta male image she initially made and reject him. ( it comes from a position of WEAKNESS)

On the other hand an ALPHA that makes the same SOI as above will have sex with her because he is "HIGH VALUE" and speaks from a position of power.

IN ORDER FOR A BETA TO HAVE SUCCES

If a beta has confidence issues and his image is of an average man , he has to make her "interested" by making a "powerful SOI". After the SOI she will test the Beta because his Beta image is not congruent with her initial intuition. If he is persistent and gets past her tests he will have sex with her.

The most effective way to have a one night stand

There are many techniques that will get you a "ONS", yet the most effective one is to make her take a logic decision to fuck you , in order to do this you must be honest about your intentions.

Since she made the decision to have a ONS and go to a club to do it , GETTING A WOMAN HORNY IS POINTLESS ( she is already horny , that is why she made this decision in the first place) ; you should appeal to her logic side ( and pass her shit tests)

Ex: "I don't like beating around the bush so I am going to be honest with you , I find you really sexy and want to exchange orgasms" ( with a blank face and hold the eye contact afterwards)

After this you should have a honest discussion with her about your intentions and her intentions as well ( it is not necessary to do a takeaway and leave on a high note unless she is shit-testing you) , in some cases you will be see as Alpha by making this kind of SOI.

Words that appeal to women and raise your alpha status : "HONEST , DIRECT , MAN" all of which should be said from a position of power.

The power to apart.

Boys , Beta's and some Alpha may argue that "pick-up is a numbers game" ; it may seem like it , but it isn't.

Ex : Meeting women on street has a different structure than meeting woman in club and the women must be approached differently.

REASONING YOUR STATEMENTS.... TBC

This is fucking gold Stelar, more people should read it and take something away from it.

Getting her to leave with you is 100% logical.

Getting her horny ONLY ADDS to her decision in leaving with you.

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Thinking in retrospect some of my pulls happened just after I opened them and others WITHOUT sexually escalating.

In the cases above the late hour was a decisive factor.


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This is incomplete.

IOI and overexertions are manifest in the same way no matter the time and venue.

In the club you can get away with anything.

On the street no so much , although you can make out with a woman you just met on the street in a matter of minutes and yes even fuck a woman minutes after you met her on the street.

This brings me back to something else. I have never done day game on purpose.

I had limited success with day game , I've met only 5 women and from those only 3 actually got into my bed , however the interactions were casual in the sense that our eyes met and I sais "HY" and we agreed to see each other the following days over a coup of coffee.

If I were to do day game I would open casually then get into Ultra-aggressive direct and sexual.

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Greatest point made in this thread was about calibration.

It's equivalent to having too much social value with an extremely-shy girl.It will repel her.So calibration is key.

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