this has been a problem with my game that has arose a couple times in the past but i didnt focus much on it because it was rare. now im interested in correcting it.

have you ever ran into them? i have a couple female friends like this and it really throws me off. they dont even enjoy massages/back scratch from their boyfriend let alone kino and now im working on a girl that is similar.

it seems like the obvious solution would be to keep building comfort until kino was acceptable however we do have a lot of emotional comfort, we talk and she poors her heart out to me without hesitation. shes comfortable sitting very close to me but as soon as i physically touch her in any way i can tell she feels uncomfortable. im not friend zone btw.

the way i see it kino is a huge part of establishing comfort and i really want to sleep with this girl so how should i play this?

I've met one, talked to her a little bit, she was giggling and giving me plenty of go ahead signs, I then grabbed her hand and wanted to spin her around a bit. She looked at me like I raped her or something, very weird situation...

Posting just for the sake of getting updates on this topic, I don't have a fix for this problem either, I simply move on to the next set which is a shame if she has given IOI's....

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i usually do the same thing however this girl would be an achievement for me so i want to figure it out. for the time being i suppose i will simply try and get closer to her whenever we talk.

another situation with a friend of a friend who "doesnt like being touched"
vibes with me all day, laughs at everything i say, gives me tonnes of iois but at soon as i touch her she moves away and if i joke about cuddling or anything physical contact she says "you know how i am with the touching." just seems like a waste of a good hook up seeing as how theirs a tonne of tension between us.

well, they dont like to be touched by strangers...

i've had girls tell me that they don't like being touched by people, but there I am rubbing her ass and legs

Building up enough comfort will have any girl accept your advances. Also depends on their past, some girls have had an abusive childhood

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if you give her probable deniability and she doesn't like to be touched by you, that is a sign she is not attracted to you, she may like you, but not attracted, 3 good screeners

-will she talk to you, and actually talk
-will she let you touch her
-will she move and be alone with you

you got those three and it is pretty safe to assume she is attracted to you (even thought you should just assume this from the start), this is why you start touching immediately, the sooner you do it, the less weird it is, you are just a guy that touches, and if she is non compliant you can assume she is not attracted and move on, just start with the shoulders or hands or something that requires little to no compliance that a stranger could do to a stranger and work your way up,

but generally, girls who are into you, reciprocate kino, girls that are not get repulsed and try to back away and get you to stop touching them, if you want to change this, hit the gym homie, or move onto a different girl that reciprocates or doesn't back off

and it is not the comfort, if you go to a club and start practicing you will realize some girls will be all on you in about 10 seconds, while other girls will get offended you even touched their hand

I would bet my next paycheck that your either not touching soon enough when you talk to these women or your touch is a bit off in some way.

You need to BECOME the touchy/feely guy. You should be touching people immediately as you open and your touch should always seem natural. Don't let your touch linger too long in one place; don't look at the point of contact between you and the girl; don't keep touching the same spot over and over. If you're doing this correctly, you should be able to get to very sexual touching within minutes.

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I agree with him completely. I will also add though, that some girls that you think don't like to be touched, might just not like to be touched in public or need to be placed in the right mood first.

I have know some girls that are absolute freaks in the bedroom, but don't even like kissing in public.

Also, a lot of the girls I know don't mind being touched when it is done smoothly and naturally. But a lot of puas, touch girls simply because a book tells them to kino, which makes it come across as very awkward and uncomfortable. If you are going to kino, make sure that you are comfortable with doing it, and that you do it at appropriate times. Like Aarron said, if you don't kino early, and then all of a sudden start kinoing out of no where, a girl may be put off by it.

Also make sure that this isn't projection of your own internal belief that girls don't want to be touched. If you believe that about a girl, and project that belief onto her, your actions toward her will reflect that, and of course she will act that way. Like a self fulfilling prophecy.

Agreed!

Women love sex just as much, if not more than men do. If you're flirting and touching properly, the woman you're with will want you to continue. Imagine how you would feel if a sexy, funny, intelligent woman came up to you and started flirting and touching you in ways that you barely notice at first. You'd feel great about it right? That's how women feel when you are flirting with them as a normal, cool guy would.

How about using dirty talk or having phone sex?

Describing in detail what you want to do to her.

This way, you can give her the same sensations as with touch, only you don´t need to touch.

Try it, works for me, and I bet it will work for you.

Best regards, common sense

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I hope you didn't try to massage them...

Unless they are all over you, of course. You simply don't have enough comfort with them or are doing the whole "touch" thing right. How do you touch them exactly? When? What conversations do you have? Give some examples.

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