Some girls (and women) are definitely attracted to 'bad boys'... but this is such a generic term: it covers anything from a gang member, to an mma fighter, a mafioso, and Gordon Gecko!

Who is -in your opinion- the stereotypical 'bad boy' women are attracted to?
Any examples from movies/famous personalities?

Tony Soprano, from the hbo tv series the sopranos..

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Meh. Me, personally, (oh and yes I am a girl) dont prefer the big muscles macho bad boys. No thanks. I'd rather have an "I drum to the beat of a diff drummer" artsy type of bad boy or someone like Mark Whalberg.

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I think the stereotype is a guy who doesn't follow the rules, and usually doesn't follow them out of some sense of justice but rather because he looks out for himself over all others. Whether he is a criminal or someone that rebels against social norms, a bad boy tells people he disagrees with to fuck off. There's a range to it, obviously extreme cases in various ways, but I think that's the very basic definition. That being said, aside from a few misguided girls who go after guys who are actually dangerous, I think it's just the sense of unpredicability that draws women to this "type."

To me, its the kind of dude who takes what he wants with absolute authority and confidence. They have an aura of "I won't be denied."

ESSENTIAL POINT I always jump in when I hear guys talking about "bad boys". There's a huge misconception out there about women. People think women like bad boys. They don't women like Strong boys. We're not talking about physical strength here. Girls are attracted to men who have a dominant, unapologetic mind frame.

In other words girls are not attracted to bad boys because their "bad". If a girl is into a bad boy it's because he doesn't apologize or make excuses for his behavior. I've been experimenting with this lately and it's fuckin cool to watch. If you lay down the rules and refuse to bend under pressure girls find you attractive. Good or bad it doesn't matter what matters is you say "this far and go no further". You lay down rules and if someone tries to break your frame don't let them. What it communicates is that you're the leader of men.

I honestly believe this is probably the single biggest break through I've had with this stuff. Because it feeds into something much deeper then just attracting women. It feeds into the essence of masculinity. When me and my ex were splitting up I knew I had fucked up. I'd given her what she wanted and she took it. She walked all over me and lost attraction. I was sad and broken because I wanted to give her what she wanted!

It then occurred to me that this is the essential problem at the base of what it means to be a man. As a man you'd love to ask the deer nicely if he'd feed your family but you can't you have to take your weapon, point it at bambi and pull the trigger. You'd love to ask your enemy if he'd kindly leave your land but he won't listen so you have to take a club, rock or blade and smash him over the head. To be a man you have to do what no one else is willing to do.

Philip: [to Young Alexander] A king isn't born, Alexander, he is made. By steel and by suffering. A king must know how to hurt those he loves. It's lonely. Ask anyone. Ask Heracles. Ask any of them. Fate is cruel. No man or woman can be too powerful or too beautiful without disaster befalling. They laugh when you rise too high. And they crush everything you've built with a whim. What glory they give in the end, they take away. They make of us slaves.


So if anyone of you guys are reading this post don't think you have to be a bad boy to attract women. You have to be a man. You have to be a leader. You have to be willing to make choices and have people question those choices.

I've added this line as a sound bite. For myself and I recommend it for when women or anyone else calls the morality of your choices into question:

"I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just saying that's what I've done"

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So, like... Bill Gates and the archbishop of Canterbury are both bad boys??

They are not attracted by "bad boys" because the are bad , but because the are confident.

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I have a different perspective. Consider this. Sure there is some intriguing qualities of a bad boy that all women may be drawn to. Confidence, attitude, danger, being different then most others.

What really draws women to the "bad boy" Is the mystery and their vulnerability.

All bad boys are troubled. they are rebelling against society. It's a woman's nature to be nurturing, what draws them to the bad boy is the possibility of helping a troubled soul. Finding their inner vulnerability and the dream of helping them. If you look throughout hollywood all the bad boys in the movies, are troubled but show an inner vulnerability and tend to have a soft side for women. James Dean/The fonz/AL pachino/Eminem/ 50 cent. All show a vulnerability and inner passion.

Every woman wants to be the one that changes them. They all want to be the girl in the movies, that finds the sweet heart within the rough exterior.

Sure there is some women that just want the danger or the sex. But in general, women are creatures of emotion and care. It is their instincts that draw them.

They want the fantasy, that holllywood and story books have been so kind to create.

I know this as I have been the bad boy for most of my life.

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Some women are attracted to murderers and and rapists.


TED BUNDY - he had groupies at his trial.

Its a primeval sexual thing.

All this crap about being strong is rubbish. Guys listen to tough music and wear tough clothes for WOMEN. Most criminals do crime to impress the chicks, it is just that most are too stupid to hold a conversation with women.

Some guys were clothes to look like criminals to attract women. The whole thing is a bad joke. Women have dictated that men look like idiots to be attractive to women.

Domestic violence is a prime example of women who take these guys back, these are ones who would not like nice guys.

I don't mean to sound bitter. I am being honest. However the idea abut being strong is a politically correct definition. For moral reasons most guys won't say the above statement.

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I believe in the egg shell definition which is healthy, tough on the outside and soft on the inside.

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Dominant, confident, aggressive, assertive, same shit, it just depends on the perception of the person u are doing it to.

It is doing bad things that has made them confident. It is has how they have attained their skill set. Being criminals and bullies is a social taboo so it works in the same way as wearing a penis on your head. It all makes them socially confident getting what they want, makes them better short-term protectors. If they fight a lot, women are seeing their fighting ability at work. I'll leave explaining THUG GAME for another thread. I' am no expert, just watched a lot gangsta movies.

The nice guys are not nice because they want to be, its because they have been socially conditioned to be.

If u watch Television now the male voice is now similar in tonality as the female. Its seen as un PC for guys to have a deep voice. If u close your eyes u will know what I mean.

The whole issue about being strong, is that political correctness sees at as aggressive, which is why nice guys have a hard time changing.

I will stop now. I think I am getting paranoid.

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I think this, I think that . . . all of this is guesswork.

Take a look at the girl and try to figure out the type of guy that would worry her mother and piss off her father. The answer then is different for her socioeconomic and cultural situation. If you're in a foreign country working under contract, it's not your suit or leather jacket, it's the simple fact that you're a transient. You could impregnate her and F off back to your country. Everybody is a 'bad boy' to somebody. . .

This is a good point. Never thought about bad boys that way.

My thoery was that women are attracted to guys that can get away with being a bad boy rather than the bad qualities themselves. The majority of guys would be written off as major assholes and rejected if they tried to be bad. However the rare, attractive bad boy has enough charm and influence to counter his abrasiveness.

Basically, any unattractive quality can be seen in a better light with enough charm. Goes back to the "attraction isn't a choice principle".

Except if you're too much of a nice guy you will probably never end up doing something like that... God forbid you sleep with a girl you just met while in another country.

I think of bad boy as more of your mindset, you dont always have to dress in a leather jacket and play the guitar. I've seen plenty of asses on campus who are dressed preppy and put on a front (commonly referred to ass "frat daddies").. the front that they are "good" and a "mommas boy" but then they open their mouth and their tonality is twice as loud as anyone's in the room, and has a disregard for other people's feeling, at least more so than the 21 year old virgin in the corner

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