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What method is best for me?
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Taking my shirt off forward 100 of people on a loud club would be stupid. But I just take some of my shirt off so they can only see my abs. And where do I get to the point of saying I got more drinks at home?

I'm on the dance floor, with some of my friends, I'm looking around, and can't see any girl eyefucks me.. What should I do? I'm not a good dancer, all I do is smile and holding my arms over his head and he does the same and we're having a good time, thats it.. I don't know where to continue..

When I take the girl to the bar, I need to have a conversation going, and after that I ask her if she wanna come with me home because I have more drinks at home.. But how I do it, IDK...


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Taking my shirt off forward 100 of people on a loud club would be stupid. But I just take some of my shirt off so they can only see my abs. And where do I get to the point of saying I got more drinks at home?

I'm on the dance floor, with some of my friends, I'm looking around, and can't see any girl eyefucks me.. What should I do? I'm not a good dancer, all I do is smile and holding my arms over his head and he does the same and we're having a good time, thats it.. I don't know where to continue..

When I take the girl to the bar, I need to have a conversation going, and after that I ask her if she wanna come with me home because I have more drinks at home.. But how I do it, IDK...
This post is getting out of hand. Everyone has a different opinion. First I would like to say that if you are depending on your body so much like this, then you have no self confidence. I say this because I used to be like that and it will ultimately affect your game no matter how hard you try. Also girls will notice it more when you don't try and show off your body so much. Wear a nice slim cut shirt, not too tight. They will know what's going on under the shirt and because you are not trying so hard to show it off, it makes you look better in their eyes and besides some imagination left in their mind is a good thing and it will make them want it more. Here is what you should do. First try reading gunwitch method, but I honestly prefer 60 years of challenge since I have read that. This will get you to go out in the game and it should kill your approach anxiety. If you do this for a while and you are satisfied with how it works then stick with it, but I personally was not happy with it. I want to be able to go and start a conversation with a group of girls. a 5 set or 6 set or what ever and be able to keep the convo going and get some of the girls interested in me and have fun for the night. Then I can isolate and follow gunwitch method or something. Overall learn gunwitch and you will notice how it limits you in some places and after you realize that, then read mystery method and apply some of that. No one is saying copy mystery exactly, just make it work for you. Take what you can from it. As for taking her home. You can try to work it into the convo like talk about random shit and relate that to something you have in your room. for example get the idea of talking about animals or fish or somehting and work it in the convo like "really? I actually have a very large fish tank at my place and it is filled with some amazing tropical fish" she will be surprised and use that to say "I can actually show you. It's getting late so I should head out right now, but before I drive you back, lets drop by my place, I want to show you the fish" use something along those lines. I just made it up, but you get the idea. Make an excuse for her to drop by and this way when you guys fuck, she can say it was spontaneous and it just happened because that's what girls always want. They don't like sex to be planned, they want it to be something that just happens out of the blue.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:13 pm 
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From my perspective I think the gunwitch method will only work if your famous and hot...

Mystery method will work on everyone.. maybe you won't get laid but you can get a phone number.. Am I right? going to study the mystery method very soon, I need to understand this method correctly.. Can you pickup chicks back to your place by the mystery method? or does it take 7-10 hours as he tells?

First sentence is a limiting belief, hell, to be serious its complete bullshit

Now lets pretend we do clubgaming here

If you are a fuckin pussy because you played indirect all the time, your balls will decresase rapidly ----> Lower selfconfidence which leads to this mindset

Now, imagine a regular guy (1)
Dressed with a t-shirt, jeans , not that well groomed, going into a club.
He´s approaching a woman he likes and tells her upfront he" likes to fuck her" - bodylanguage is set of course.
Doing this with 10 girls per night might give him 3-4 rejections when screening works.
Whole approach , opening etc might cost you 5-10 minutes.
So this guy probably already fucked a girl

Our " low selfconfidence guy" who plays indirect - might not get rejected that often, but he is forced to use " opinion openers " and stories to get into the pants of a woman. The frame he first establishes is " I have to work to get my pussy "
All this small talk BS might take him around ~ 20mins. before further escalating or even number closing.
From the first second of approaching- followed by asking about an opinion - a woman immediately thinks this guy is a pussy because he beats around the bush.

This woman might even got laid by guy 1 ( instafuck in the club ) , our low selfconfidence guy is making out with her afterwards.
Now he knows the taste of indirect - its ridicolous, and this is what happens in clubs, altough you guys do not expect it


I mean , honestly guys , when you want to buy Red Bull, do you go into a fuckin wal mart , flirting with the sellers, teasing the red bull, step back and doing some C&F and then close the deal?
NO, you are a man and get what you need - so take the Gun Witch method or even Mode One behaviour

Just my thoughts
What if I ask 30 girls and they all reject me?? Dude its not that easy, I need to come up with something good...


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good question. Walk up to the next one. Simple as that. I am sure the only way to get 30 rejections is if you're extremely ugly or homeless or cant keep a convo for more than 30 seconds.


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From my perspective I think the gunwitch method will only work if your famous and hot...

Mystery method will work on everyone.. maybe you won't get laid but you can get a phone number.. Am I right? going to study the mystery method very soon, I need to understand this method correctly.. Can you pickup chicks back to your place by the mystery method? or does it take 7-10 hours as he tells?

First sentence is a limiting belief, hell, to be serious its complete bullshit

Now lets pretend we do clubgaming here

If you are a fuckin pussy because you played indirect all the time, your balls will decresase rapidly ----> Lower selfconfidence which leads to this mindset

Now, imagine a regular guy (1)
Dressed with a t-shirt, jeans , not that well groomed, going into a club.
He´s approaching a woman he likes and tells her upfront he" likes to fuck her" - bodylanguage is set of course.
Doing this with 10 girls per night might give him 3-4 rejections when screening works.
Whole approach , opening etc might cost you 5-10 minutes.
So this guy probably already fucked a girl

Our " low selfconfidence guy" who plays indirect - might not get rejected that often, but he is forced to use " opinion openers " and stories to get into the pants of a woman. The frame he first establishes is " I have to work to get my pussy "
All this small talk BS might take him around ~ 20mins. before further escalating or even number closing.
From the first second of approaching- followed by asking about an opinion - a woman immediately thinks this guy is a pussy because he beats around the bush.

This woman might even got laid by guy 1 ( instafuck in the club ) , our low selfconfidence guy is making out with her afterwards.
Now he knows the taste of indirect - its ridicolous, and this is what happens in clubs, altough you guys do not expect it


I mean , honestly guys , when you want to buy Red Bull, do you go into a fuckin wal mart , flirting with the sellers, teasing the red bull, step back and doing some C&F and then close the deal?
NO, you are a man and get what you need - so take the Gun Witch method or even Mode One behaviour

Just my thoughts
What if I ask 30 girls and they all reject me?? Dude its not that easy, I need to come up with something good...
what if you actually approached 30 girls and got the experience instead of making excuses?

how the hell would you know it is not that easy, you are arguing with more then one person who says it is that easy because you don't want to go through what it takes to get what you want


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I actually can't hold the conversation for 30 seconds..

Tell me what i should say in these 30 seconds and at the end I ask her if she wanna come with me home.. I can only hold convos when I'm not trying to get her home, but If i wanna take her home I got problems..


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Than do not have the intention in taking her home. Just be a fun and social guy. If a girl likes you she'll let you know through small things you'll learn to recognize over time.


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Than do not have the intention in taking her home. Just be a fun and social guy. If a girl likes you she'll let you know through small things you'll learn to recognize over time.
I don't know how to talk sexual to create a sexual tension.. I need to work on it, I wanna sound very sexy and make the girl horny.. I just don't know what to say, what do you think?


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Mystery method because you get to wear hats. And hats are cool.

I honestly think its better if you attend a frat party if you are in a hurry to get laid.

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I don't know how to talk sexual to create a sexual tension.. I need to work on it, I wanna sound very sexy and make the girl horny.. I just don't know what to say, what do you think?
What you say doesn't matter. Just slow your pace down and go deep into her intimate bubble. Look at gamblers video all the way down the mainpage of this forum. It shows excellent non-verbal escalation. That's the way to go...


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From my perspective I think the gunwitch method will only work if your famous and hot...

Mystery method will work on everyone.. maybe you won't get laid but you can get a phone number.. Am I right? going to study the mystery method very soon, I need to understand this method correctly.. Can you pickup chicks back to your place by the mystery method? or does it take 7-10 hours as he tells?

First sentence is a limiting belief, hell, to be serious its complete bullshit

Now lets pretend we do clubgaming here

If you are a fuckin pussy because you played indirect all the time, your balls will decresase rapidly ----> Lower selfconfidence which leads to this mindset

Now, imagine a regular guy (1)
Dressed with a t-shirt, jeans , not that well groomed, going into a club.
He´s approaching a woman he likes and tells her upfront he" likes to fuck her" - bodylanguage is set of course.
Doing this with 10 girls per night might give him 3-4 rejections when screening works.
Whole approach , opening etc might cost you 5-10 minutes.
So this guy probably already fucked a girl

Our " low selfconfidence guy" who plays indirect - might not get rejected that often, but he is forced to use " opinion openers " and stories to get into the pants of a woman. The frame he first establishes is " I have to work to get my pussy "
All this small talk BS might take him around ~ 20mins. before further escalating or even number closing.
From the first second of approaching- followed by asking about an opinion - a woman immediately thinks this guy is a pussy because he beats around the bush.

This woman might even got laid by guy 1 ( instafuck in the club ) , our low selfconfidence guy is making out with her afterwards.
Now he knows the taste of indirect - its ridicolous, and this is what happens in clubs, altough you guys do not expect it


I mean , honestly guys , when you want to buy Red Bull, do you go into a fuckin wal mart , flirting with the sellers, teasing the red bull, step back and doing some C&F and then close the deal?
NO, you are a man and get what you need - so take the Gun Witch method or even Mode One behaviour

Just my thoughts
Hahahahahaha are u serious dude? Do you even read what you type?

I can already tell you walk around the club asking girls if they want to fuck and yes you prob do get "lucky" once in a blue moon and nail a "slut" once but if you want to fuck at least semi respectable women that haven't been rammed by every guy more then once u will learn to work for what u want don't take the short cut.


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I actually can't hold the conversation for 30 seconds..

Tell me what i should say in these 30 seconds and at the end I ask her if she wanna come with me home.. I can only hold convos when I'm not trying to get her home, but If i wanna take her home I got problems..
If you can't hold a conversation for more than 30 seconds, then you got a bigger problem here than picking up girls. I am guessing you are a virgin at this point. I don't know if you really want to lose it to some slutty girl you meet at a club. I could be wrong though. Maybe you should talk more to guys and watch how the convos go or watch your friends talk to girls or watch pickup videos or any movie just to see how the convos between the males and females progress. You can even take notes on topics you can bring up. Or you can try to find a topic and study it a lot so you have something to talk about. For instance I know a lot about fitness so I sometimes talk about that or fashion, but I bs a lot of shit I say about fashion, but it sounds good lol. The other thing you can do is learn mystery method and learn about all these little DHV stories and these little games they play because that will fill the void for your lack of conversation. After you have built attraction and reach the comfort stage, you pretty much don't need to say much because the girls talk a lot at this point and you just listen to what they say and actually listen and respond based on what they said. They always give you some information to ask them about in their sentences. Please don't respond, but I am not good at talk to them or any other excuse. First try this out or the other advice everyone has posted here because they are good advice. After you have tried them, then come post again on how you failed so we can help you more.


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I actually can't hold the conversation for 30 seconds..

Tell me what i should say in these 30 seconds and at the end I ask her if she wanna come with me home.. I can only hold convos when I'm not trying to get her home, but If i wanna take her home I got problems..
If you can't hold a conversation for more than 30 seconds, then you got a bigger problem here than picking up girls. I am guessing you are a virgin at this point. I don't know if you really want to lose it to some slutty girl you meet at a club. I could be wrong though. Maybe you should talk more to guys and watch how the convos go or watch your friends talk to girls or watch pickup videos or any movie just to see how the convos between the males and females progress. You can even take notes on topics you can bring up. Or you can try to find a topic and study it a lot so you have something to talk about. For instance I know a lot about fitness so I sometimes talk about that or fashion, but I bs a lot of shit I say about fashion, but it sounds good lol. The other thing you can do is learn mystery method and learn about all these little DHV stories and these little games they play because that will fill the void for your lack of conversation. After you have built attraction and reach the comfort stage, you pretty much don't need to say much because the girls talk a lot at this point and you just listen to what they say and actually listen and respond based on what they said. They always give you some information to ask them about in their sentences. Please don't respond, but I am not good at talk to them or any other excuse. First try this out or the other advice everyone has posted here because they are good advice. After you have tried them, then come post again on how you failed so we can help you more.
I am a virgin, I can't talk to some girl without me knowing her, I can only talk to her if I'm her friend.. And yes I just wanna lose my virginity to a slut, I don't care as I told you before.. I just wanna get straight to the point and bang her..

I don't know what to ask about and all these videos I'm watching won't work to my age, 18.. I just wanna bring a girl home without even deserving it.. I just wanna be sexual as hell and hope on her to come with me home.. I haven't seen a video like this before so Idk how I'm gonna do it..

I'm gonna study the mystery method very soon..


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I'm gonna study the mystery method very soon..
Okay good. Just learn mystery method and spend at least 3 months on it. Then see how much you get laid. The only problem here is that you actually have to practice everything you learn. Knowing the theory alone won't take you anywhere. So each chapter starting from opening, you should go out and practice it a few nights.


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I'm gonna study the mystery method very soon..
Okay good. Just learn mystery method and spend at least 3 months on it. Then see how much you get laid. The only problem here is that you actually have to practice everything you learn. Knowing the theory alone won't take you anywhere. So each chapter starting from opening, you should go out and practice it a few nights.
Will try..


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