If you're not approaching, simple, starting approaching.

If you want to box, you box. If you want to learn chess, play chess.

If you want to make a friend, you speak to people. If you want a lover you. . .

1. You're a sucky con-artist.
2. You need to get out of the habit of ending your self mocking punchlines with an LOL.
3. Everything you say that is different is RIDICULOUS.
4. Everything you say that is similar, you copied, but misunderstood.

I wudn't go that far

In fact I encourage SA911. He is just a guy trying to make some money by putting together some concepts which he must have read in different books and just adding some imagination of his own - This happens all the time in every field. Not the best way but still a legal way of earning some money.

But I seriously advise SA911 to get atleast a year of Good infield experience and try and test his own concepts, may be take a 1:1 coaching too. That way he'd know how rediculous he sounds and why he is advised to not go commercial with his present stupidity.
Seriously Man, now you are not even funny ! Stop talking like this (in cliches)

@MARC
Your ignorance is comical.
Let me offer you some advice, try to keep an open mind. Assuming to know a lot about a topic and not being able to have an open mind will only hinder your development. You can read all the material in the world, but if you lack the experience and the open mind to expand your horizons, you will stay at your present level. You may know what is ideal when it comes to women. But without actually experiencing it. It's all just here-say. Human interaction and energy transfer between a man and a woman is what is at point here. Most learned is unconscious and can only come from actual experience. To suggest hat I should get at least a year of infield experience show's just how ignorant to this you truly are. I haven't even begun to express the depths of my knowledge of women on this site. I have simply replied to questions.


It's quite obvious I know what I am talking about. You suggest that I need coaching, Ironically enough, I am presently coaching two people. And have already successfully help 1 ( he has went from not dating at all to having 3 dates in the last month and has referred the other two to me. I have only been doing this for 7 weeks. ( Person-Person) Although I am relatively new to the coaching thing, It seems to be coming naturally to me due to my lifetime of experience in dealing with the opposite sex.

I am considering some online coaching, however it's a little more difficult to get credibility when my physical presence can not be used as a tool for assurance. It's hard to show your confidence and mannerisms online.

I am confident after a few field reports and perhaps some video dialogs of me in the field. This will no longer be an issue. If you do not wish to have "foot-in mouth" syndrome. I suggest rather then being condescending with your remarks. That you just observe, and pass your judgement at a later date.

I am not going anywhere, I will be on this forum for quite awhile. I am helping a lot of people, whether you see it or not.

I would be more then glad to help you out if you decide to open your mind. If not, I wish you the best of luck. It seems you may need it to progress from your current level.

I will not stop, this is who I am, call me a walking cliche if you like, but do not tell me how to be.

The difference between you and I is this:

You came to the site to help yourself. I came to help others.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

This is Exactly what we are trying to advise you. Thanks for spelling it out.


Obvious to Whom?
At first I just thought you were some wasted 25yr old who was trolling the Pick up sites. But Kasabi was correct the very first time - You are just some guy wanting to go commercial !
Now this is where we Agree if you havent paid the girl ahead of time like VH1 had done for the PUA show.
Dissolutioned !
You are now a mind reader - Take your advise and believe me a lot of guys in here would help.
A walking Cliche and a liar - You came here to get your name out and then go make some money out of some Virgins and socially uncaliberated boys (Open the dictionary for uncaliberated, dont ask me if it is a PUA term)


SA911 - You are a nuisance - yes now I'm being condesending and talking down to you. You are feeding off of boys who are trying really hard to get better. You'll end up making some social retards who'd have more problems later then they have now before they have even began meeting women. Its for ppl like you that the community is infected with dissolutioned and crazy youngsters who, if were coached right would have gotten their lives together.

Bad advises + Bad Coaching + Bad results = Messed up inner game.

You're a fool. I give up on you. It will be interesting to see what you say when I prove myself.

You're obviously young yourself.( If not young, just dumb) So for now, I will forgive your ignorance.

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Hehe, You make me laugh, no seriously you are helarious !

Yes you have over 10 yrs on me - I feel bad for you that you have spent all this time in complete dissolution and havent had a chance of experiencing to world of women and dating. There is still time, if you get some help you could get into the dating world - there are some women with Daddy issues out there !

- Ok, now I'm making fun of you, thats not nice of me and so not like me sorry . You could forgive me for this too - Thanks

The flowchart of every troll who's entertained the forum:

1. Statement of greatness.
2. Bewildering posts of fantasy.
3. Justifications. "You don't know me." "It works for me because I am alpha." "You don't get it because YOU are inexperienced."
4. Anger and threats. "In real life, I'd beat you up."
5. Repeat steps 1 through 4.

*If you can't convince the majority of people in an online forum of your intentions, skill sets, and logic through written language, you have no chance of doing this with spoken language.

LOL

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I'ma be what I set out to be, without a doubt undoubtedly, and all those who look down on me I'm tearin down your balcony, no if ands or buts, don't try to ask him why or how can he

Going out sometimes isn't all about approaching. Maybe your with your friends and having a good time? If thats the case observing can be very useful because it saves you time...as long as you dont look like a loser in your douche circle of friends.

And really, people who constantly troll SA .. its getting fucking old NOONE wants to hear your opinions anymore on the matter!! To me your opinions matter less and less and now any advice you give now or in the future has lost so much credibility because you have shown how immature you really are. And Marc you sound like your trying to impress kasabi please stop.

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Going out is not all about approaching. You are correct.

PU is all about approaching and following through.
The addict is the most delusional troll who has graced this forum. . . If you don't find humor or validity in my criticism, go ahead and address them. And this message doesn't just go out to you:
^This is an awful way to interact with others either in real life or online. It's the cycle of delusional losers who never accomplish anything. (I thought for a minute to see if I could come up with a better phrase than "delusional losers" but I can't. If anybody has a nicer way to phrase such a person, please let me know)

I don't find it humorous, all it does it clog up threads and make them ridiculously long. I do not follow SA's stuff but when I do see good advice I filter it in my mind and hopefully remember it.

You have driven him to prove himself maybe that was your intended outcome if so your posts have more meaning than repeating he is a fake. I do not care as much when you question his posts you have your reasons and I respect that.. its when so many other people who are now your minions constantly hijack threads when SA posts and want to be just like you... its sad.

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How can he prove that he's not a delusional, lying sack of shit by chatting with a few people over a beer and getting their phone numbers? I think you misunderstand my intentions. If he just showed up and looked like an average guy, I think that would have satisfied my curiosity enough because I can't imagine that a non-mentally challenged human being who is actually 38 years old can behave the way he does. (Refer to the flowchart)

There are hundreds of members of this forum who have game, no game, and everything in between. There are kids 15 years younger than me who've figured this out to depths I probably never will. Most are happy to share what they know. This particular member is happy to share imaginations to fortify his own lies. . . and that is sad.

As somebody just starting out, you already know that his entire manifesto is awkward at best and an outright lie at worst. If you've been to a club a few times, you will know that non- "rich and the famous" pick up girls for ONS all the time. You will know that fruity statements garner nothing but awkward laughter. You will know that pacing around a club is what every newbie does and raises the "what the fuck is that dork up to" radars. you will know that standing around and staring (even through his mysterious non-staring method) at girls does nothing but creep them out. It's only due to the highlighting of his own self mocking posts + the fact that he's learning as he is posting that he's already shifted his positions in his thread: "I don't JUST stare . . .you know, I talk to them later on." . . . "No! Of course I can get ONS . . .I just wrote that to help the newbies who couldn't possibly do this. . ." - Yeah right . . .

What happens online isn't too different from the real World. If you want to be treated well, do things that are deserving of praise. If you act like a buffoon, you will be treated as one. In fact, the real World is much less forgiving towards delusional liars. They get fired, they get outcast, and they don't succeed with much . . . even with PU. Online, all we can do is point and laugh. Some newbies might not know the difference but what's sad is that there are guys in this forum with experience who can/have identified the delusions and simply sit and watch the shit unfold as if they were watching a re-run of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest."

Bravo! good speech. Nobody really cares dude. Your hating is borderline stalking. Do you honestly think you are above everyone else, that you can just assume that they are all just donkeys if they relate and you don't.

You mentioned on a thread. You have been going to bars for 20 yrs and only got into one fight. So I am assuming you are even older then I am. It's amazing at how much effort you are putting into hating. I am pretty sure by now, that everyone knows your opinion of me. But here's the thing, everyone else has a right to their own opinion. You'd think you would respect that and stop with the immature whining.

I issued you a challenge. Not a social call. I have already found someone local to observe me in action.

The challenge is, you and I both go out with someone from this forum that lives our general area.

It's not for fun, it's not to show someone around. It's for the sole purpose of demonstrating your game. And to be observed during the seduction.

With a specific task at hand. 2 number close / 1 kiss close. or the SNL
It's funny cuz you beaked off about how i would not even do it, you even offered 20:1. But what I did fail to notice the first time, was you even accepting the challenge.

If you know so much more about game then I do, and I am a total fraud, then this should be the easiest way for a true player (as you claim to be). to shut me up.

So enough talk. Put your money where your mouth is. Let's set it up. We can even go on the same day. I am free again this Saturday.

Do you accept the challenge?

Man up or shut up.

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Back to #4 again? Go back to your fantasy thread and read my replies to your redundancy.