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Nothing personal but it's pretty creepy you'd think this way. It's to no wonder why girls are creeped out by guys' persistence when they come at them with such a misguided rationale.
You mean understanding them from the frame that "no" means "yes"? Hmm...ok.
I dont get how you could possibly misunderstand this. Creepy is the last thing I am. I am an ultra realist. Girls play it safe. Sometimes they tell you that they just wanna be friends just in order to test you. They say stuff like that just to see what your reaction will be so they can decide how to behave.
Misguided rationale you say? I am speaking from experience. No matter how unsettling a fact may be, it is still a fact. I think you have an idealised way of seeing the world.
When you start understanding women and start having a bit of experience, you will understand what I mean. Until then, good luck sarging.
Keep persisting with your antiquated decades old out-moded used car salesman mentality towards women. Incidentally, it's "idealized" not "idealised", and what's more ironic is that you're accusing me of maintaining an idealized view towards women, when in fact you believe that a woman's stating that she's only interested in you as a friend and nothing more - not once, but on multiple occasions as somehow meaning something entirely different is a complete idealization, not reality. You can tout that you've been more successful than I have with women, but the truth is you've got no way of verifying it, just as I have no way of verifying your successes (as well as your failures), so to suggest that somehow I understand them less simply based on the presumption that in your mind I hold less of an understanding of them is so illogical that it's downright laughable.
ps. Thanks for the good luck, fortunately I'm attractive enough where I don't have to desperately rely on half-baked techniques to manipulating somebody to go out with me. I'm curious to know what that must be like, but living through your deluded state is as close as I'd want to get to knowing the experience first hand.
You arent even making sense. I have absolutely no need to keep on discussing this matter with you. The only reason that I find it important to push this matter is that I get annoyed when people hand out bad advise. You think that girls always say what they mean and that if she says that you are just friends always mean that you are just friends. Well, sometimes it means exactly that but not always. You gotta focus more on why a woman says something than what she is saying. There is nothing manipulative about that, it is just understanding people better.
You say creepy, and manipulative and accuse me of tricking women into bed in some kind of car salesman way? If you look at the statements I made, there is nothing predatory about it at all. I say that she may be saying those things to test the vibe before she decides to go for it or not. Meaing, she has the initiative. How can that soundd creepy to you?
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