Hey there guys,

Im new to the forum and have a question straight away:

btw: Im only a Newbie at PUAism, got a lot of theoretical knowledge from reading (and watching a PUA (friend of mine) at work)
but havent had much on the practical side of the coin...approach anxiety issues and that kind of nonesense every starter has problems with....
doesnt make a difference to the question...just wanted to mention it

now to the story and question:

got a bit of a one-itis (or in my case two-itis) going on...had a crush on this HB10 (obviously) for a couple of years now
ive been shot down twice (once bout 3 years ago and once at new years 2012) by her when making an attempt to go a step further...
i know she had a thing for me when we met, and when we didnt know each other that well (didnt know any PUA stuff and was shy then)...
but now that im so deep in the friends zone, that she emphasizes "she doesnt want anything more than being friends with me" (pisses me off of course )
so since new years i have her on freeze out, which is pretty much the only thing i could think of to not be sad or angry or whatever

Soo...any of you got another idea for how i might get that thing turned around??

And please dont tell me stuff like "get over her!" or "meet new girls!"...cuz thats what im doing, i just want to crack her somewhat so i have her off my mind...or it might haunt me forever

thanks for your advice
have a great night (its 10.30 pm here)

This is my first post here and hope its one of many to come

Greetz
Tom

_________________
Greetz NoName

Has she contacted you since the freeze out?

_________________
Email me: EddieFews@WayOfThePlayer.com For 1 on 1 coaching or consultation via SPAM, phone or IM.

Now You Can Read My Articles Here! ------------> http://wayoftheplayer.com/category/play ... fews-tips/

Let it go man. Just meet other girls. On new years, I kept getting blown out (drank way too much), I kept at it, at times, I got blown out multiple times. Then, before the night was over, I picked up a girl, took her number, we left the bar, got food, I met her friends, got their numbers too. Turns out, she blew me off earlier in the night saying I wasn't as charming. No kidding. I was hammered.

twice...
first time to tell me she had come home safely...bout 2 weeks ago
last time today to tell me she got a spot at a university...we're friends after all...

_________________
Greetz NoName

Leave it alone, find another tree to bark up. She's not interested.

My advice to you would just be to be her friend, you are not experienced enough to be with her, she doesn't see you as being attractive.. It takes time and skill to get to the level you would need to get to in order to have her in the that way.. Even if I instructed you step by step on what to do to spark her interest, you wouldn't be able to maintain it without me because she would be attracted to me and not you.

What you can do to become a guy that she would be interested in is, sleep with some other women, expand your social circle and take intimate interest in someone other that her.. Then an only then will she have some attraction toward you. You guys are so far along with the friend thing. Do you honestly think that one day she is going to bump her head wake up and realize she wants to sleep with you? Thats not how it works buddy

P.S. is actually a good thing to have some HB10 hotties as friends, I have a few myself and they hook me up with they're friends, and wing me to help pick up other chicks all the time.

_________________
Email me: EddieFews@WayOfThePlayer.com For 1 on 1 coaching or consultation via SPAM, phone or IM.

Now You Can Read My Articles Here! ------------> http://wayoftheplayer.com/category/play ... fews-tips/

How many times do you think he has heard this?

Good try though buddy

_________________
Email me: EddieFews@WayOfThePlayer.com For 1 on 1 coaching or consultation via SPAM, phone or IM.

Now You Can Read My Articles Here! ------------> http://wayoftheplayer.com/category/play ... fews-tips/

NoName1

I understand your predicament all to well.

ill give you a example of what something that happened to me.

When i was 15-16 i had this huge crush on this girl i believed to be a HB9.5 and she was 14 but looked like she was 17(her body was very mature) anyways i knew she was attracted to me and i was to shy and unexperienced to think i had a chance with her(not that she was experienced just that she was beautiful) anyways i didnt act on it at all. so a couple months went by and i ended up dating(more like settling) a HB4-5 for about a year and a half, mainly because i thought thats all i was good for. and i freezed the HB9.5 out for the period of my whole relationship mainly because my GF didnt like her at all and thought she was a slut.(she isnt one) so time goes by and i see HB9.5, mind you this is after a year and a half of not seeing her, we get to talking in person a bit and i get her new number and what have you. a couple weeks later i break up with my GF (total b***h). so i start hitting up the HB9.5 we start hanging out all the time and we became really flirty but she had a BF that was off and on. and this one day she and i are hanging out at my house by ourselves and she is putting on makeup and i go up to her and say why do you fix your makeup so damn often there is no one her you need to impress then i leave and go in to my room to look up a movie time she come in my room about a minute later and say " yeah there is someone i need to impress" i was like "who? are we meeting up with someone?" shes like "no i need to impress you" and then she just kisses me. so me and her make out a bit. however i wasnt in to it and she wasnt too. like i had this girl who i have had a thing for for years now and i am not in to it. it just felt wierd.

so we talked about it and decided that its just wierd and awkward. and to be friends, and me and her have been best friends for about a year now. i dont she her as anything more that what i see my sister as.

so here is what i am trying to tell you, sexual attraction will never fully go away. but freezing a girl out can help, although you might feel guilty.

and like Fuze said having hotties is friends is a good thing they can help you out. also being around them helps because you get comfortable while being around girls that are very attractive and figure out how to be yourself around them.

hope my story helps

let me know bro

The problem with the forums is that, there is tons of resources, intelligent men, and women out there but, few take the actual advice. I seen rsd Alex talk about the pedestal SPAM and if a girl rejects a man, why would he then continue to bombard her with attention? I don't understand the logic but, once a oneittus captures a man's heart, intelligence isn't even in the equation any more.

You don't. You go out and sarge other women.

Im so sick of all this "get over her" or "sarge other girls" bullshit. If you want a fucking girl and you cant ge her with your 'pua' skills then ur just playing statistics. I always say it. Unless ur gross looking, you can go out and open a ton of girls and no shit ull getsome. But most people join here to get the one they want.. Its easy to get ones you dont care about but thats not thepoint. andif it is then pickup fucking sucks.. I want to get a girl that i want and if i cant then this shit doesnt work. This is what everyone is saying in a different scenario.

You have some kid who gets the crap kicked out of him. He goes to a martial arts school to learn how to defend himself against people on the street and when he says
"What do you do if they do X" his coaches reply with "You get over it take the beating and move one. There are plenty of other kids out there whose asses you can kick. You just haveto pick a fight with everyone."

Not a good analogy my friend.. And you idea of "the one you want" is a bit off..

Lets look at it from your view though, lets take a guy with no fighting experience, Skinny, nerd thats done nothing but sit behind a computer playing world of war craft his entire life. Lets say one day, he see's wrestling on t.v. and see's hulk hogan and decides " I want to beat up hulk hogan" At that very moment, there is no way possible that he can beat up hulk hogan, No matter how bad thats " the one he wants" to beat up. its just too far out of his reach. He must first, go build some muscle, go get some fighting training, wrestling some lower class guys, and work his way up to the professional level in which he can be in the same ring as hulk hogan.

He can't join a wrestling forum and say " HELP ME, I want to BEat up hulk Hogan" And expect them to give him advice to help him step in the ring with hulk hogan over night.. It just doesn't work that way.

There are classes, when a woman friend zones you, shes see's her self as a professional (With relationships and sexual tension) and you just a nerd thats been playing WOW and just wants something with no real idea why he wants it.

If you want the girl bad enough, you will meet other women( get experience) and return when you can honestly say you've worked you way up to deserve a shot at her title.

These guys tell you all to move on because, thats what you would have to do for the girl to want you anyway, and honestly once you do move on, you will run into new chicks that you feel way stronger about than you ever did about this one girl. You will also realize that you didn't want this one girl as bad as you thought. Its the best advice, but few explain why it is, so I took the time out to do that for you.

Build some muscle, get some real world experience and then ask her for a title shot. Why should she waste her time fighting you now? Your not even a challenge, its kind of like you entering a fight with a 3 year old.

_________________
Email me: EddieFews@WayOfThePlayer.com For 1 on 1 coaching or consultation via SPAM, phone or IM.

Now You Can Read My Articles Here! ------------> http://wayoftheplayer.com/category/play ... fews-tips/

You wont get them all man and yes, it is a numbers game. Factors include looks, skill set, tactics, techniques, and many variables outside your control. Timing in her life, relationship status, morals, desires, and what she is seeking. The more things you have going in the right timing, your good but, if it is not happening, you tried more then once, you are on your way to being desperate after a 2nd time.

It's all time management, my friend. I won't pursue my ego chasing some girl that isn't really attracted to me. I am aware there are many more waiting for me and I'll save my time and peace of mind and go for them instead.

Keep her as a friend. Don't bombard her with texts or calls talking about your day or life anymore. You get a funny fwd text or email.. then sure send it her way.

Start to date women hotter than her. If they are not as hot as she is then make sure they have better qualities than she does. If she has small boobs make them have a nice firm C or D rack. She doesn't have a butt make sure your date does. Make them seem smarter and look like they are going further in life then her. Don't tell her your dating a new girl either. Let her find out on her own.

Go to better college then she got accepted to or pick a better major. Seem like you have a plan for your life or that you have your stuff in line.