Long story short I've been fucking this HB9.5 (she is only 19) and want to take things to the next level. Issue is she is really insecure and does not like that im fucking other girls. As of now she has no right to bitch, but she has made it very clear that she doesn't like that.

So anyone have advice on how to convince her to commit to an open relationship with her being the girlfriend and us having BENs?

-Hardkink

Just tell her that the reason you don't like the whole girlfriend thing is because you've been hurt before. every relationship always goes through the same steps. Two people meet, they like each other, they start sleeping together it's really fun woo! There in love, then after a while jealousy or possessiveness enters the relationship, they guys is controlling the girl like "Why are you, don't talk to that guy!" because men a jealous, all of us, I'm trying not to be but it's hard! And then after that they start fighting and they break up, and then they just never talk to each other again. And I hate that! It's just shit. So that's why I don't do normal relationships any more.
I only like open relationships, so like if I meet a girl I really like, I never say "Don't meet anybody else." I don't set boundaries, I just like spending time with people I like. If you love someone say after 3 years and then she goes and kisses some guy, it's not like I'm gonna stop loving her, and that's where the hurt comes in, but if you're in an open relationship, it isn't the be all and end all kind of situation that you get into in normal relationships. Eventually one day I will try a normal relationship again because we all need companionship as humans but I just can't allow myself to be hurt like that again, I'm not prepared to put myself out there like that again, at least not yet anyway.

I think that should do the trick! Hahaha!

Hope this helped, let us know how it goes.

Scotch-Tape

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I'm 19 an ultra newbie to this in one sense, as in I only just recently found out about this "world." The more I read the more I understand the reasons why what I have been doing in "the field" for years has worked or hasn't.... Fascinating!

Open relationships just isnt for everyone. That is the big secret. Some like it and some wont ever do it.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

I'm not sure all of that was English.LOL

I've tried that... I went into how my marriage went stale after a few years... my wife cheated ext. The truth is I'm not jealous in one bit and actually due to my voyeurism (I'm extremely kinky hents the screen name) I kind of like the idea of her being promiscuous. My ex-wife did porn, and pt past three girlfriends were exotic dancers... you can see my pattern.

Lets hear some feedback on this idea. So HB9.5 has zero reason to be jealous... she is knock your socks of hot. The poster child blond haired, blue eyed, size one, five foot eight. With goals, ambitions, independence and she is so sweet and funny. So she has zero reason for her low self-esteem.

How could I build her up and break her jealousy on a psychological level. I think if I pulled that off, she would be excepting of my lifestyle.

Jealousy is an internal issue.

She is jealous because she either views you as a possession, which is bad, or she has such low self-esteem that she believes her value as a human being is directly tied to your relationship, which is also bad.

Seriously, your best bet is to sit her down adn talk to her, since you are both adults, and tell her what you want. You have to make it clear or she's going to purposefully view things in her favor. And if she still doesn't want this kind of fwb situation, then you gotta find a new hottie or wife up.

Exactly. So how would I go about helping her solve her issues? I know I'm not a psychiatrist but are there steps I can take to work her through the issue?

Open relationships are just a bad idea. There's always one part that will become jealous.

Read this article "10 tips for dating multiple women" http://wayoftheplayer.com/the-best-of-w ... iple-wome/ This will give you everything you need.

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Thanks for the link. It's a good read for guys getting into the game.

Truth is I'm already in a "polygaming" lifestyle. I'm looking for a more polygamy type relationship. I say that with some hesitation. Polygamy does include multiple partners but unlike my relationship goals all partners would be equals. I'm looking for a relationship focused on my girlfriend where we both have the freedom to explore extracurricular partnerships. I want the have a passionate relationship much like someone monotonous. But still enjoy promiscuous casual sex with other women who I am not in a relationship with.

I know this is possible. And I'm sure there are members here who have similar relationships. I'm just looking to gain some insight... both on ways to convince her and also on how to get her to be less jealous.

Some antics used so far.
I'm always telling her how special she is and that I'm crazy about her
I tell her all the reasons she shouldn't have such low self-esteem (like reasons above)
I let her know of all the girls; she comes first.
I never go into any detail about my other Ben's.
I always text her sweet messages letting her know I care about her.

One weird thing is she wants a serious relationship, but won't go on a date with me. She just wants to hang out at my house or work, talk, watch movies and fuck my brains out. I keep trying to take her on a proper date and she always opts out. Its bizarre... but in the beginning that's how I set things up. I made it clear I don't wine and dine. I guess I'm at fault for going against my own rules.

Thanks again guys and keep the comments coming!

With an insecure girl, i don't think having an open relationship is the correct path.
I would just end the relationship with her and move on if she's bitching to much.
Plenty more out there.
Or, if you do want to keep messing around with her and worried you won't find better. Have a serious relationship.