Ok, let me try summing this up as briefly as i can!
Trying to game this chick who is friends with a friend (same social circle). I m very witty and funny guy, and the cocky funny stuff works on most girls. She knows i m interested, and when we text we always seem to get a fun conversation going. But, she has this wall kinda thing because she had 3 bad experiences with other guys before. So, whenever i tried asking her out for coffee, she says no claiming that she knows my type too well and probably bracketing me in the group of guys who she had bad experiences with despite not getting to know me that well.

Maybe, i should just move on, but I feel the reason she s not open to going out is because she s had bad experiences and is scared too open up again and take a chance.

So, how do i approach this if I am adamant not to give up? lol. Should i go about building trust while still being all cocky n funny but being scarce at the same time?

Really need some good advice on this! Help me out guys!

Hey Man,

Well i have have a few girls like that. And believe you me these are the type of girls that usually care for there significant other very much once they open up to them. So my advice to you is figure out why you want her. Like if you want her just to fuck or date or get to know. girls like her can be fun once they crack. but they get hurt easily so if you actually wanna pursue her as a GF or someone that could eventually become a GF what you should do is lay your intentions and feelings on the table. like you said she knows your type of guy and thats dumb because your not and type of guy you are YOU and you need to show her that you are not like a type of guy but show her that you are the guy that will treat her right. the best quote i have ever heard is from a girls point of view it goes "The only guy that will ever be good enough for you Is the one who thinks he doesn't deserve you." which is true no guy deserves a girl they have to earn a girl. all girls have the want for a companion. and if you want to be with her let her know clearly that you want to be with her. but NEVER EVER tell a girl that you will not mess up and that you will always treat her how she want to be treated. because no one is perfect. in stead of trying to game her be honest with her. and like tell her yeah i might mess up but that doesnt mean i wont try to fix it, yeah babe i know i can be a ass sometimes but i will do my best to make you happy. something like that.

Good luck Buddy.

let me know if this helps and let me know how it goes

Hey man, thanks for the reply!

I usually like things to take their own path, and if things look like they re going to develop into a relationship, i then go with the flow. But, i guess she would be GF material.

But, the problem here is that she already has this pre-conceived notion of who she thinks i am. How do i go about changing that? I don't wanna turn into a wuss to get her? I read somewhere about the "soulmate moment" ? lol, sounds cheesy and i dont usually like using anything which is kinda manipulative, but it sounds like it maybe worth a shot? And the other thing is she s kinda in the same social circle as mine, so i dont wanna make it awkward. If i try that soulmate routine and that bombs, i dont wanna come across as some kind of wuss among my friends. lol

well honestly it all depends on your intentions are. like say you actually wanna date her and you go about getting her to date you by using game, which is fine but i always find that honesty is the best way to go about. like if you "lie" to her in the beginning of a relationship your gonna have to hide that the whole relationship. like make sure she wont find out that the soulmate thing is a game thing, and not something that you actually feel/felt. but as far as awkwardness if she says no of course it is gonna be awkward and depending on the girl it might be a long or short time. but if you tell her your true intentions, that you want her and think she is beautiful and amazing and whatever you actually feel about her you wont come across as a wuss, like you say you might be to your friends if you use the soulmate routine. like worst thing your friends could say is that she said no and its weird, but who fucking cares man, your the one who had the balls to tell her how you feel all the while not know how she feels. that would be in my opinion a mature way to go about it.

however if you just want to sleep with her. honestly that would be fucked up to and that would make it truely awkward between you two and your social circle.

a thing i like to do is. i try to think if i was the girl what would i want someone one to do to me. like would i want to be lied to or would i honesty.

and truly all girls hate people who lie to them when they are looking for a BF.

Good Luck man

like its said in the movie "we bought a zoo" it only takes 15 seconds of unwavering and unfazed bravery and courage to change your life.

^ the words might not be right but meaning and weight is still there

When we game ... we are always pulling, pulling, pulling, and pulling ... It's great to be persistance! It's good that she knows your intentions .... but now it's time to push ^_^. Go insult her!

Go tell her "You know what I hate you! I thought you were cool. You are fucking done. Get the fuck out of town. Get out!" ... you must really sell this!

If this is done properly the girl will be like ... "What? Why?" ... she may even walk away or cry! But, that's when you say I'm sorry ... I went to far ... I kind of got to emotional there. Or if she just walks away ... "What! You are not going to fight for me ... I was jk ... Come over her".. pull her in for a hug. It is very important to go get her again after this massive push. It may seem like you fucked it up ... but trust me you are still find to go get her.

This may sound insane ... it may not make sense at the moment. After all that pull, pull, pull, pull interaction .... sometimes you have to push her away ^_^.

Massive attraction! I bet you the other guys has never done this to her. Develops insane sexual attraction.

Hope I helped ^_^.

Sincerely,

Donston

Lol Donston. I dunno if I can pull something like that off!

Not saying it wont work, but I dont think thats something i would do!

I guess it may work, but if it backfires then I m gonna come across as some crazy psycho freak to her(which doesnt matter), but to the rest of my friends as well.

And when i say game, it means i m using both push n pull. I m not running after her like a puppy dog, its just that she has this preconceived notion about me being a player, so she has put up a wall which prevents her from actually getting to know I m not like the other guys who she had bad experiences with!

I know, it sounds insane. But, I've been in your predicament a couple of times. Were you really really like this girl and you've invested so much. But you can persist as much as you can and still it doesn't work. That's when you insult her ^_^ ... one massive push. It's insane. Yes, it may appear mean or assholeish... Just consider it when you've tried everything else. Use it as a last resort and consider it as a learning experience for the future ^_^.

I know this method seem crazy and it doesn't make sense... but only trying it will you be able to connect the dots. But, the reason why this work is because girls wants to feel a wide range of emotions ... that's why most girls tend to gravitate towards asshole chodes. Not saying for you to be an asshole though ^_^.

Hahah ... good luck thu!

Sincerely,

Donston

Ill private message you what i said cuz for some damn reason it keeps cutting me of. reply back with what you think on here. sorry for the inconvenience. oh and ill post it on the other thread about this in mid game