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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:13 am 
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ok, before I ask my question i should fill in some background information. First off, I am not new to the community, having been studying since the summer of my transition from middle school to High school. I am currently a senior and graduating in May.
I do use natural game at school and am kind of the "secretive player as the girls described it"

Anyways, I am friends with this girl whom I will name Alica. Now Alica and I talk a-lot about relationships--her boyfriend troubles and the things wrong with guys--vise versa with girls for me. Throughout those times, we learned a-lot about each others history and dating past. She knowing how fucked up my life is sometimes and me having dated over 50 girls.

Now Alica has a best friend names Jenny whom I asked out. Since she couldnt call through her cell phone, I sent her a direct text that said
"called to ask you out, but it seems that I can never get a hold of you past 11:00. I think that we could have a good time; contact me if you are interested, and if not thats cool too.

That's how the relationship began and I believe my text game to be at a pretty good level. I dont have facebook and she knows this, but my friend informed me that her status for New years was "First New years in the country and its been the best because of that special someone. Couldn't be with him, but just texting him made it so worthwhile. (Yay me)?

now I asked her out face-to-face properly when we returned to school and we went out.

I told her my favorite color is black a week ago through text and she told me that she remembered and brought a black dress just for the occasion; therefore I told her that for her hard work she deserves to be rewarded, and that the first date would be extra awesome now.
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Before I begin to describe the first date, let me just say that I an very adapt at reading ioi's and all that good stuff--from attraction, to qualifiers, ect.

I picked her up from school and drove her to the park-- I did blindfold her--however she was relectant. When we got to the park, I began liting candles and brought out the hot chocolate and cheesecake that I brought. Now this is the error on my part because I kinda mentioned that I borrowed the candles and thermas cup for hot chocolate from girls...

As the date continued, I casually mentioned things that she told me a week ago--such as what she brought for her brothers for christmas, and also what she got--the classes that she most enjoys and the places that both of us love to travel--her being Russia--she was surprised that I remembered.

Now I made her climb a tree and drink hot chocolate like little kids and she again was really reluctant--being in $200 dollar heels. We eventually did and fell to the group throwing leaves at each other. When we finally sat back down it all went down hill and red flags started coming out. She kept texting, checking her phone, and looking at facebook... and that is the first and last straw for me on dates--since I always demonstrate by turning my phone off in front of my date before we start talking. Now I would have called her out and left her right there, but Alica told me to not make her best friend cry--from knowing my life--and I really wanted to keep Alica as a friend. (this could have been my mistake and I should have called her out on it now that I review this scenario).

As it continued, she starts talking about how pretty she is and how quote "she can call any guy on her phone and get them..." Next she was talking about how pretty she is and that there were times when she got special privileges for being pretty... like at Peter Piper Pizza; I stopped listening a-little because there was a inner voice screaming "What the Fuck... are you kidding me?' She goes even further by saying that she made out with this guy at another High School because he was a player and all the girls wanted him to spite them... and instantly I knew I had to ditch this bitch here and drive home... and I would have if she were not friends if Alica.

So I calmed myself down...because I do not lose control of my emotions; I transitioned to simple friend talk now and then took her home about ten minutes later. In the car ride home I gave a-little freeze out. She was touching my arm while I was driving but I was being very indifferent about it and simple answered her questions with 2-3 word phrases--such as number of girlfriends that I have had. She then said that she would never date me and touched my nose with her finger--(I wiped my nose later). She then asked why I was biting my lip so much while giving iois like restarting the conversation and hair touching. I simply answered that I do it when I was thinking a-lot, and murmured or judging.

When we got to her place I said ok bye and just handed her belongings--she kissed me on the cheek while I was busy gathering her things and I again said ok bye and drove off.

Now I think that that was one of the worse disrespectful dates that I have had--I condensed the scenario obviously. The strange thing is that "she texts me later saying that did you get home ok? I like to know that my dates get home ok" I simply said that "Im still out but safe" and lefted it at that.

The next day which was yesterday, she again texted me and said "btw thank you. The date was super cutee and I had alot of fun. I appreciate you going through all that trouble. It was nice of you. Hope we can hang out some other time :) (heart).

I did not respond.

... then on her facebook my friend told me said "had one of the best nights ever!" or something like that...



this girl has way too many red flags and I am not asking her out again; the only two things that I am wondering is: what is this girl really thinking...? Am I merely her orbiter or is she some kind of psychopath? Number Two is how do I end it without pissing Alica off because I still want to be friends with her, yet not tell her what went wrong--because she will ask.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:36 am 
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you know what, fuck alicia, why do you let this girl ramble on about shit that is so counter productive to what you want, cut these garbage threads and flirt with her, if she plays with her phone it is time to stop talking to her and completely pay attention to something else that is not her, she should be working for your attention, not the other way around and when girls are bringing up other guy threads it is a good idea to not be interested in those threads and cut them immdiately, and really if shit is going terrible it is a good idea to just cut the crap you hate out right away, better to set the frame that you don't care about her stupid crap that doesn't matter, get to know her, and if she is bragging like crazy, make fun of her

trust your instincts, alicia can go cry with her friend if things go bad, who cares, after all she has a million other guys buying her pizza why should she even care if you don't put up with all her crap, just ignore it and have fun and ammuse yourself, make the date fun for yourself, if your date is not having fun, then she is not a good girl for you, also don't worry about what she thinks about you, doesn't matter, instead worry about what you think about her, and making the date fun for yourself/turning her on while doing it and escalating things physically


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:09 am 
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Tbh I think she acts like that because she knows about your reputation...
She wants to "stay in control" it seems.. or at least in her own mind :p
If she starts rambling about what priviliges she gets because she is pritty, just respond in a harsh way onit. Might be so, but I treat every person for their true value, not only the cute once's, ask your good friend Alicia ..
Dating a girl that pay 200$ for shoes = a no go/red flag for me anyway but oke..

"She goes even further by saying that she made out with this guy at another High School because he was a player and all the girls wanted him to spite them"

=> Just answer, are you kidding me? Good for your self-esteem I guess if that is the way you want to earn it..

If girl's start talking crap, neg it down badly


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:17 am 
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Hey man, id say you are one of several if not many orbiters this girl has. Maybe she gets off on talking to guys about her other guys and bragging. You should have definetly thrown in a Neg there to take her down to the ground.
I know i'm new here, but i'm not new new to the game and understand the way it works.

The best thing you did to her was to freeze her out. She was going on about all the guys she can get on the phone etc and most lads on dates with the girl are no doubt fawning over her. She was putting her value right up there, and after such an interesting and good date she no doubt felt the need to increase her value to meet yours, hence the heavy display of being in demand looking at her phone, mentioning all the other lads.

But you did the best thing, you didn't react to it! You froze her out that no doubt made her uncomfortable and put her on the back foot. You mentioned all the IOIs she was giving you in car, touching you, trying to get you to open up, the kiss on the cheek. She tried to play you in some strange manner of the game and you adapted and did well even if it was the red flags that prompted it.

She will be like butter in your hands now, but you need to keep the aloofness and do not let her increase her value like that again and keep her on a lower level than you.


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thank you guys for all the responses. I'm just going to do a-little more freeze out and piss her off for fun; time to move on to another girl; reps for all of you


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