this is my first post ever so here goes

I have recently been hanging out with a group of 4 really hot woman and their one dff. I distinctly like one in particular (even though their all 7.5-9's). I have a decent rapport with her and im making some progress.

My problem is that at crowded bars when its me, them, and some male obstacles, i find myself accidently/publicly flirting with the targets hot friends.

I flirt with the target as well but its generally less public. Im just afraid that if I unconsciously treat all these girls the same, I wont be able to get the group vibe the way i want it.

I have this fear that girls tend to dislike me because they see me with many different woman all the time trying to pull the same bullshit pickups.

By the way the target is the shyest of the group (that might help in analyzing this situation)

Is she jealous, does she/and them get confused as to who my target is?

I feel like this is a plateau for me and I have ideas of whats happening. I just dont know if i should change my attack during the next situation with them or too simply stay on this path?

Its good you are flirting with other women and that they are responding to you. Its a DHV. But if they are your targets friends, than it is not not so good.

What you should do is: next time you are with then, do what you usually do ( this way you wont come out as a volatile person) but leave out your target a little. If she is the shy one, she will probably not impose herself or give you any shit tests. At a point you feel confortable with ( dont take too long) say: "I think im leaving Hb out . Do you mind if i borrow her for a second?" They should feel confortable with you so they will probably say "sure, if she wants" .This way you just isolated your target. T

hen just game her. And remeber: the key to close a women is escalation.

It's very good. Most guys on here try to IGNORE the target's friends. Instead, you want to befriend them, as most of the time you don't have a wing man helping you out. Plus, the frame will be that YOU are a desirable mate among all her friends and other girls passing by.

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I think my main problem is that im only in one gear:flirting ..so i emit that to all the woman where I probably need to learn to switch it up among the friends so that they feel more comfortable about the situation

Don't look at it as a bad thing. Women are highly subjectable to social status. If your flirting with your target's friends is getting positive attention, then that feedback will make its way to your target. If her friends like you, then they will give her the green light to let you in a bit more. If you're still not comfortable with this, I would suggest keeping the flirting with your target at a level slightly higher than with her friends and be more friendly with them.

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Don't look at it as a bad thing. Women are highly subjectable to social status. If your flirting with your target's friends is getting positive attention, then that feedback will make its way to your target. If her friends like you, then they will give her the green light to let you in a bit more. If you're still not comfortable with this, I would suggest keeping the flirting with your target at a level slightly higher than with her friends and be more friendly with them.

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Pretty little girls, so used to getting your way. Along comes a man who challenges you, and suddenly you don't know what to say.

OK so tonight me and my buddy went out sarging. We happened to meet up with the 3 of the 4 hot girls (my target included).

As we said hello we exchanged quick half-hugs and went on our way. From reading 'The Game' (half way read) I took the Mystery route and ignored her and kept flirting with a girl I had already made out with that night- she was less hot but still worth it.

My ignoring apparently didn't pay off as my target somehow met up with a dude who was similar to me (tall and pretty confident appearing) and she didn't stray away from him all night.

I continued my ignoring and flirting with whoever was around her but nothing worked.

The bar closed and we all left as a group (me without my target; but with her friends as friends).

He had the girl and never once did i show any interest.

I don't know if he fucked her or if she told him to get lost but either way I never lost my cool and showed her that I gave a fuck...Hopefully nothing works out between them and she will appreciate my persistence within the group.

I did not expect this kind of night to occur (read my first post on this thread).

Should I stay on the, "i dont care what you do with other guys" path, or should i enter the, "Im gonna try to steal my target from any guy no matter what" path.......... or something else that I havent realized??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_52-xpaLMo

06:10 minutes, this is mystery method done by a love systems intructor, you ignore the target until you feel the set has been won over (they won't cock block)

take note of the following

-push pull opener
-neg (you're so adorable, just like a little sister)
-ignoring target
-how quickly he tests compliance in set (physical escalation)
-control of the frame
-time constraint before close

Wait, you ignored your target for a long time AND made out with another girl that night?

I think you might have ignored her too much to the point where she lost interest in you and another guy was at the right place at the right time to pick up where you left off. Making out with another girl that night was a mistake too (assuming your target was in the bar/knew about the situation.)

Basically, you just became the wingman for your targets new guy. You won over her friends, ignored your target, played your cards well judging by the story until you went overboard, hooked up with another girl, and left your target with a slightly bruised ego which is perfect for picking her up!


- Stylite

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Might i add a very good wingman. Girls with a bruised ego or low self-esteem are very easy prey. There are some wingmans out here that work this fact very well; one is a douche and the other a not so douche (not a good guy either), kinda like the bad cop, good cop thing.

Now, to your question on which path should you take, i advise none of them. Try to get back to where you were before that night and then play it better.

Wow, where are all these easy girls with a bruised ego or low self-esteem? How come I never come across them? :S Are any of them pretty? Maybe one of them might even let me kiss them!

Lol, never said they are easy to find. Some of them have had some issues in their teens with their appearances, therefore still have low self steem. Others have just ended a relationship.
Cant generalize, there are the pretty ones and the ugly ones.
Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not.

Anyway, do not go out looking for them. If you happen to find one, lucky you. If not, game other girls.