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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:24 am 
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So basiclly there is a girl from uni. One time we met in a club, we danced togehter, almost kissed. But then she just kissed some random guy from a club. So I thought I will just leave it.

But then, she contacted me and asked if I am going out tonight, I replied that I am. So we went togheter to a club, danced with each other (I would call that fucking with clothes), we even kissed, but then again, she met some random guy and started make out with him, so I just left her with him. But...when club got closed and I got home, she called me and asked where I am...I was like wtf.

So now I am asking, what the fuck? She made me to look like a fool in front of my friends, cuz there was a lot of my friends in a club...What my next move should be?

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To add don't get angry with her for her behavior, shes probably behaving like that because she wants more from you and you aren't providing.

If you want to have sex, go out with her again and if you kiss her ask if she wants to come home with you. It sounds like she will probably say yes since shes really into you. If you dont' keep her as a good friend she seems like a fun girl to hang out with.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:14 pm 
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Either you are moving too slow for the F-close and shes showing you what you should do or you showed dependency and she is just leading you on and gaming you.

Try ignoring her for a little while see how she reacts, try not to come running every time she calls because by now its obvious she'll whore-off to some other random dude while she's with you. No matter what you do trust me on this: She is not relationship material :)
She said before that she doesn't want a relationship. Anyway, what do you mean by ignoring her? Not answer to her calls/texts? She just recently texted me: "Thanks for good night. Sorry we left you."

The thing is I left her. I am newbie so not very good at text game, but is she trying to reframe me or I am too much analysing? Anyway should I answer anything to her text?
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To add don't get angry with her for her behavior, shes probably behaving like that because she wants more from you and you aren't providing.

If you want to have sex, go out with her again and if you kiss her ask if she wants to come home with you. It sounds like she will probably say yes since shes really into you. If you dont' keep her as a good friend she seems like a fun girl to hang out with.
Heh yeah I was a little bit angry. But after reading your advices guys it makes sense now.

Anyway I will try to get her to my place next time. And how should I not keep her as a good friend?



And yeah again thanks for advices guys!!!


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DONT IGNORE HER. That is just another way of showing your angry with her.

Show that your still interested, you've already shown her your not needy which is good. Shes probably kissing other guys because she thinks its a way to have sex with you, get you angry then have some angry sex! :P

If your ready to amp up the connection with her and change the way your around her, then you could say something like "I haven't been myself lately i've had alot of serious shit going on but..". First try asking her if she wants to hang out at your place, if not meet her for a drink again. (If she agrees to come to yours shes ready to 'get down')

Theres alot of aspects of a guy that make him sexy but I'll give you a couple of the most important ones. Good Eyecontact + look at her lips before a kiss, kino-sooner you get close the better;holding her hand etc.., Flirt and tease her it makes conversations more interesting.

Thanks for the Rep let me know how it goes :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:32 am 
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Ptown is saying it all. Just follow what he says and you should be ok.
By the way, i've had a similar experience, and what you should have done was go after any girl. It would have been interesting to see her reaction.
Post how things turn out.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:56 am 
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Right, sounds simple BUT...what should I do if she starts acting like previous time again???


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She won't.. BUT if she does. Go up to her preferably before she kisses the guy and tell her your leaving now do you want to come home with me?

Trust me it is simple your over complicating it like most people would. This girl is already interested, has shown shes sexually open, and loves attention. Finding a girl like this and building attraction is usually the hard part! A useful tip: you can ask her to come home with you more than once throughout a night girls will usually deflect it at first not because they're not interested but because they dont want to be a 'slut'.

Again she probably wont dance with other guys as long you follow what I said.

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FUCKING HELLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok. First of all, thank you all for advices.

Today we had a party in uni halls. And it went fucking bad. At first it went normal. We met each other, she introduced me with her friend. Her friend told me that she was talking bout me a lot. So we danced with each other again. No kiss. Anyway I tried to ask her to go to my place maybe 3 or 4 times and go to town to the club 2 or 3 times!!!!!!! And all she said was "in a minute" or "after an hour". At the end, I said to her that I am going home do you want to come with me (FUCKING AGAIN...) the reply was the same as always, not now, later, I can't go now ETC. SO I SAID FUCK IT. I just went home. Before leaving she asked me if I was OK and not mad. I WAS FUCKING MAD, but I just said no. BTW IT HAPPENED the same thing as always. She started to make out to other guys, 2 of them got in conflict with each other, I just laugh acted cool like I don't care and tried to pick up some other chicks, but I failed with them and everyone noticed that. I was a dead meat, so I just got drunk.

I know it is pathetic, but I am looking forward to go out next time to a club, don't drink at all and pick up some other chicks.

Fucking AFC life.


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Dude u went out u tried and u failed thats awesome. So what that it didnt work out she sounds like a tease but at least u tried instead of thinking about what couldve been doesnt it feel better that way?

U should be proud that u tried because now u can move on and she isnt the centre of your reality.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:42 am 
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True.

I am not that mad, it is just I am still drunk because I just came back home alone...as always. But yeah, you guys give a lot of inspiration so thanks for that!!!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:08 pm 
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Man, think you need some advice.

First, forget about the girl. She might be your oneitis, but you are going nowhere if you keep up the way you are doing. Throw her in the friendzone, make yourself busy. Dont be always available. If she has any interest in you asides from being just friends, shell come back. If not, you just got a closure.

Second, you know why you failed to pick up any other girs at the party right? Because your mind was not in the game. It is a mistake to game a girl while thinking of another, especially if you are mad with last one.

Third, you said you were drunk as hell. No problem here, everyone gets drunk from time to time. Just know that drinking migh get you loose and lessen your AA (or AE, you choose the definition that better suits you) but overdrinking will fuck up your game. FACT.

Forth, this was a field report. You should consider starting a journal. It helps a lot.

Hope im helping.


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First off, your not going to be able to game every girl it's just not possible. The advice the guys have given is sound, but the girl sounds unstable, she wants to be led, and I'm gunna guess that your body language wasn't dominant enough to sway her. You can use some of the best material on this forum but if you don't say it right and with confidence it won't mean shit.
You need to have her full attention and have her aroused if you want her to leave with you, if your repeatedly getting shot down, she's got the frame and not you.
You also need to be able to open sets confidently, just for this situation. If the girl thinks she could lose you to another girl in the room she's more likely to not risk it and leave with you.
Next time your out in the same club with her, open lots of sets and bounce between them to build your social proof, chat with her but close your body language, act like you could leave at any minute, make her work for your attention.
Do not get angry, I repeat DO NOT GET ANGRY. Don't even mention the other guys, You have too many other girls to game to get attached to just the one. She's fucking with you to get a reaction, and your reaction should be to to open more sets.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:15 am 
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Thanks for advices.

I just realised that alcohol shuts my brains off and makes me mad if I fail (It never happens when I am sober).

Read some articles about alcohol and his damage etc. so I am willing to not drink at all next time I go out.

And she is not my oneitis, she was just hot and I wanted to fuck her badly.

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You also need to be able to open sets confidently, just for this situation. If the girl thinks she could lose you to another girl in the room she's more likely to not risk it and leave with you.
The thing is I was actually talking with other girls when she came. And even when she came I went away and talked to other chicks.

Anyway as Ptown said at least I tried.


Next time goals:

Dont drink at all
Try direct game


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:35 am 
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Couldn't resist drinkig, but at least I don't get that drunk now, just a few beers.

Tryed direct. Didn't worked, but at least it was fun.

Asked some girls if she has a bf, most of them said no. So I said cool that means that we can be casual sex partners.

One of the funniest response was:
Omg, omg, omg, did you actually said that out loud, ar you joking, are you serious?
I said absolutely.

But then her friend came and she told to her friend what I said. So they pretented to be girlfriends.
So I say cool that means we can have a threesome then.
The other girl started to be pissed at me so I said I am just being honest. But they walked away.


Direct is fun, but it didn't worked for me at all (thought indirect doesn't work as I want eather).

P.S I met that previous chick again...since I was on direct rampage I said to her if you wouldn't be such a good friend I would love to sleep with you. And her reaction was....she just asked why she is such a good friend. I said you just are lol. I kissed her (very short) she kind of didn't kissed back but she didn't leant back eather. But anyway when she was leaving I asked her if she wants that I would come with her....no.


P.S.S I have a question...what do you guys do if a girl says "i am going to my friends now (sometimes add bye or see you later etc.).

And what do you do when you dance with a girl and then her friend takes her and walks away...?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:44 pm 
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first i'll answer the questions lol

If a girl says she is going to join her friends it means she just doesnt want to be rude. We as PUA's use FTC's all the time as part of game. If it happens again just reply 'Yeah me too actually, but before we both part ways do you know who sung Black Betty? The songs been going round my head all day and I cant remember who did it'
That way if she doesn't know, which she probably wont then next time you see her either she comes up to you because she found out or you go up to her and say 'Oh I finally found out, my good friend Sarah mentioned it was RamJam, I'm such an idiot...

The second question. If the girl gets dragged away by friends and you feel a connection please don't follow like a puppy, just point at the girl, well thats what I do, you know like act like a 7 year old. When the girls gone just divert your attention somewhere else. The set may be gone but you still need to keep your social proof rocking.

As to your field report well i'm glad you tried direct game. I personally don't use it alot but it does get results. It's always fun to try different methods because maybe the method you're always doing and never getting results is just the wrong avenue for you.

Next time you want to go direct select the right clubs. I know you sarge in newport so Delilahs is funny for that because they're all slags and OTT is definitely the place for that. Meze is a different kettle of fish so in there its better to go indirect, I know i've made the mistake of going direct in Meze and after K closing a regular without a connection then every time i'm in the club I have to see the girl and its really weird.

Keep it up though dude I look forward to seeing your work.


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