OK so I need help. your at very loud club and your having a blast you try and make eye contact but she just wont look. how do you do it other than going up and grinding her??

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You mean she won't keep eye contact? Or you can't get the eye contact in the first place?

Speak louder and speak from your diaphragm (a muscle in your chest), if she's into you she WILL make eye contact. This is an issue of value, not the environment itself.

No its such a loud club that you can hardly hear even when shouting in their ear. No my question is how to open. Im fine if she gives me eye contact but how to open some random girl that hasnt lokked at you?

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In order to get that EC,all you have to do is position yourself where she sees you in order to give EC.And loud venues are where non-verbals rule(since she can't hear you),that's why it's key to attract her via EC and body gestures.

I have a trick I usually do.When she does spot you(via EC),pretend as though you're talking to her(as if she can hear you),by talking(moving your lips).Have a look on your face as though you're really talking to her(eventhough you're just moving your lips).She will be confused as to who your talking to(even point at herself as if to say,"you're talking to me"?Eventually,you'll have to approach and engage her.

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I don't think speaking louder works.. not for me anyway..
In Sweden, where I live, the clubs play their music so loud so even if one shouts in the others' ear, it's still difficult to hear.

So I'm also interested in how you game a girl without just going and start to dance with her (read: grinding ).

@Storm3x-As I said before:it's the non-verbals.Flirt with her via eye contact.Pretend as though you're talking to her(by just moving your lips).But eventually,you're gonna have to approach to then take her to a quiet location.It isn't hard to do.The target would've already known that it's impossible to hear at that particular location,so she would be open to seeking a more quiet part of the venue to chat.So take her hands and lead her.This takes balls,so I don't know how newbies will follow through,but it's the only way.

Overall,get fucking creative and playful.Since it's impossible for y'all to hear each other,approach her(after some flirty/playful eye contact),then motion to her to look at your hand,and pretend to be writing message in your hand to try have her figure it out.Or,take your cell phone and write what you want to say,and have her do the same.It's fun,flirty and playful.

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@Storm3x-As I said before:it's the non-verbals.Flirt with her via eye contact.Pretend as though you're talking to her(by just moving your lips).But eventually,you're gonna have to approach to then take her to a quiet location.It isn't hard to do.The target would've already known that it's impossible to hear at that particular location,so she would be open to seeking a more quiet part of the venue to chat.So take her hands and lead her.This takes balls,so I don't know how newbies will follow through,but it's the only way.

Overall,get fucking creative and playful.Since it's impossible for y'all to hear each other,approach her(after some flirty/playful eye contact),then motion to her to look at your hand,and pretend to be writing message in your hand to try have her figure it out.Or,take your cell phone and write what you want to say,and have her do the same.It's fun,flirty and playful.

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Sounds good actually.. Gonna give it a try next time!

Do you have any stories where you did this? What happened? How do most girls react to this?

I never had to use any of the above routines since venues here aren't that loud.But it doesn't take rocket science to see it workable.

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By the way,feel free to check out my latest blog post exactly about this subject.Cool routine too.http://kennyspuathoughts.wordpress.com/ ... ud-venues/

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Check out the DVDs of Stealth Seduction. Nice trick is just to dance back-to-back, lean in front of her, look as if you're looking for a friend. If she smiles, it's on. Then just turn her around by pushing with your shoulder.

I have no problems with that kind of seduction.. Done it tons of times.. But I know some day, I'm gonna be old and I won't have the looks I have today, so I'm more interested in communicating skills to win a girl over.. I'm gonna go with k-loc aka Socialkenny's routine next time I'm out clubbing

@Storm3x-Thanks for considering my routine bro'.

Everyone already knows that dancing beside or with the target is great.But eventually,you're gonna have to talk to her at some point.And if the music is too loud,that's impossible.My routine cuts through that.It's playful,fun and I can see girls liking it.

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RSD method: The Claw

Basically, grab her hand/risk. Quickly get her closer to you till you are face to face. Eye contact and smile. Don't have to say anything ^_^!

Thanks to Tyler Durden and RSD crew.

The Claw
1) The claw is a life style.
2) The claw only get's stronger.
3) The claw always wins.

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