I know we should avoid being or suffering from oneitis...so im gonna lay out my 2itis i just started being a rAFC [hence my 1st post]

Ok, first i was at a wedding recently, there was a group of 5 girls my age in total. only 3 hot ones, and i seemed to get close to a b5. What i wanted was a hb8, a hb7 and maybe even the b 6.5 - who by the way are all cousins.

Now im kinda screwed. I've been seen getting along a bit too well with the b5 that evening and the other could see it. Her close friend is the hb8. How do i move on from one girl to the next, im thinking i root the b5 and give her the best orgasm in the world to tell her friends about which would arouse enough curiousity for them to come and subtle hint they wanna go - but then again, this sounds like mental masturbation.

If i cant be greedy, i'd definately take the hb8 for a spin....shes not relationship material because she doesnt seem to talk. Keeping in mind, they are close cousins, which reinforces the "chick" talk.

Only so far briefly spoken on msn with the b5, but no dates/outings or anything yet. Nor any contact with the other chicks. What should be my first move and are my goals realistic in anyway?
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Also, on the way to work each morning on the train, i've noticed this beautifully model-esque russian chick, hb9-9.5. Shes always got the ipod looking out the window defence. One day, i just somehow mustered up the balls to go sit next to her and ask her to share her music with me because it was a "long repetitive trip which would speed up if we had company" at first, she was scared of talking to me...but hey, confidence and a smile works wonders.

Kino here and there, but no intimate kino. I threw in a neg then suggestion of a necklace by touching her neck. She eventually showed me photos of her friends and her time in Australia, then she showed me her "close friends" which consisted of 3 russian stud looking models. 8pack, chunky arms, long surfer's body - i immediately feel my dick shrink even more from the competition but kept my composure. in those pix, she was posing with them, being held and carried - it just made my kino seem worthless to what those guys do.

It was last week that i got her number on the track, but since i also got the sack last week....i dont quite have much ammo to be alpha enough as i've only got public transportation.

Its been about 5days since i talked to her and got her number, what should i do - i havnt had a date since.....the dawn of time because i was avoiding relationships since the 1st girl broke my heart so badly. how should i dress, where should i take her, make her pay for stuff....and how do i deal with competition like her "close friends"

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UPDATE:

Hey, this is a pretty suprising result. I was hoping to ask the hb9 russian model out first then give 2nd priority to the less attractive one. Yet, it was the hb5 who declined my advances while the hb9 was more than happy to....and bit so happy she didnt give me a proper chance to ask her out and hang up.

i got the feeling it that I was probably the first and only person who ever picked her up in her life. She's probably been shielded all her life by family and friends - she has a close knit russian exchange student group and/or her ipod and staring out the window technique worked so well, that her beauty just scared off anyone of ever really giving her a try. - so im not too sure about negging her too much either.

I didnt manage to score a setting I had planned out, but im taking her to dinner after work. I can see plenty of playful kino involved. I dont wanna run outta things to say or ask in case i get thrown immediately into the boring section and land in LBF category - any advice and and hints for extra exchange of kino and hugs would be gladly appreciated.

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I'm not sure if this advice is correct but I read it somewhere on the internet.

If you take her to dinner she will look at you as boyfriend material and maybe a long lasting relationship, and she will not put out for a long time untill you dinne her and wine her for several dates.. And then maybe she will put out.

If you just want to bang her fast, take her out for a drink and dancing and show her a good time, and then you'll have a better chance on banging her faster.. And if you want to take it farther than it's your choice.

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TheMoneyMan1

-RISK- "Only those who will risk going far can find out how far one can go"

A girl will automatically put you on one of two different paths: The Lover or The Provider. You won't hit both immediately, just one. The Lover is the one that initially turns up her attraction to him so she wants to jump him. The Provider is sweet, simple, BORING, but she realizes that he will do just that . . . Provide! So, which path do you want to get on? If you want the lover, then you have to turn on her attraction, which means have fun with her, tease her, things like that. Once you hit the lover path, you can change over later to turning her into an LTR, if you want, but she'll already be putting out. If you hit the provider path, she won't be putting out for a while.

L.A Tripp, Money man

I never thought of it that way, but thanks for the advice.

When i called up the HB9 for a date, she just kept talking and talking, i've never had anyone or girl talk that much before....and we only met once on the train! - possible emotional baggage/loneliness? btw, the call was 18mins long, i only spoke for about 2-3minutes the entire time

AsianAlpha told me to hang up on her as i was wasting too much time and losing my "intriging aura" but how could i have possibly shut her up? if i am right about her never clubbing or going out and that shes been shielded all her life...wouldnt shrugging her off seem cold? when i wanna get closer to her?....but the biggest problem is falling into the "provider" or LBF section.

Hmm....i've always been out with UGs so it really doesnt matter and had always been AFC around decent looking ones, but for the 1st time in my life, i somehow scored a hb9(.5) i really dont wanna screw up

Also, lets go along with the "shes been shielded all her life and hardly/never been pickedup" identity, since its dinner right....do i pay half and somehow expect her to pay the other half? im just afriad it could backfire and/or make me appear cheap.

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by tease - im gonna call her a pig through out the night and be a hiprocite when i burp and get disgusted when she does, then a playful hug and apology - any other ideas? for kino? how would i also do 101s? just simply get bored of something she says for a minute then spontaneously laugh?

also, the restaurant i had in mind has large tables, i was thinking of sitting next to her and having my arm around her as we talk and joke around instead of the tradional sitting across from each other.

thanks, and awaiting your advice

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like i said, you shouldnt be on the phone for 2 long with a girl, it shows that you have lots of free time, you must be a busy or at least act busy. end the phone conversation first.

Yes, it's true, you need to make phone convos quick to let her know you're busy, and end it first to let her know you're in control, BUT you also don't need to just hand up on her when she's talking like that. That's not alpha behavior. That's disrespectful. Maybe she has been sheltered. I don't know What you need to do in that situation is make it clear to her, when you do talk, that you DON'T have time to stay on there at the moment, BUT that you WILL be talking to her/seeing her later. That way she doesn't think that you're just ignoring her.

To keep from falling into the LJBF zone, you just build her attraction to you, through kino, through push/pulling with her emotions, through kissing, etc.

As far as dinner. If you've already set it up and she knows that you're going out to dinner, and YOU set it up that way, she will expect you to pay. If that's how it's set up, that's how you have to do it, otherwise you're a jerk. If it's not set up yet, then keep it from going there to begin with. I wouldn't take a girl out to an expensive dinner right away. She has to earn that. Take her somplace cheaper, where you two can still be close.

As far as you showing IOI's to her, most likely that will come naturally w/o you even realizing that you're doing it. I'm sure you will be showing her plenty w/o thinking about it. You just have to watch for her IOI's toward you.

ok, in the morning, she sent an SMS to me at around 7. I was still sleeping with the phone off, and thats usually the time she catches the train to work.

after i turned on my phone at about 9.30am and got this msg:
Good morning! Hehe Sorry,i cant meet u afte work today but we can go out 2have some lunch @ 12 today! Wat do ya think? PS, dont have much credit, dats y txtn.

So i immediately txt back something along the lines of "sure, i'll come see you before 12 for lunch"

We met up kiss on the cheek hello...she turned out to be about 1feet taller than me, but it didnt seem important. I guess i was nervous, talking and walking a bit too quick. Couldnt quite hold her hand! she was holding her purse, and if i tried to put my arm around her waist - it would look like im some short dude desperate to get my hands all over her and/or show off to people around me.

We went to some shitty cafe....she didnt quite like it, and we moved somewhere esle. we ordered, we both weren't that hungry, but spoke heaps -but then again, maybe thats her nature. I teased her a bit, we had laughs...and 25% of what she said i couldnt understand either because she spoke too softly, or the russian accent was too strong. also, she turned down dinner because "only her mother had the keys into the house or something along those lines" -fishy?

we couldnt have that much kino, as it was only lunch and i could only touch her hands from time to time, but never touching it for too long.

Unfortunately, it was time for her to return to work and we were slightly late. When we stood up, she walked over to pay and so did i....since we had two meals and a drink, it would be awkward to pay separately, so i offered to pay together. She offered to reimburse me, but i declined and told her "you can pay next time" (the waiter looked at me as if i was a dickhead)

We walked out together, i offered my hand and asked her to teach me how to walk as slow as her....we held hands for a moment walking, then the awkward thing came up....her arms ended higher than mine, so i had to bend my arm upwards...eventually we both let go

ladidadida...i walked her back to her workplace, only managed a kiss on the cheek goodbye, then as she opened the door to go in, i told her to give me another on the other cheek [but didnt kiss her]

after leaving and sorting some things out, i msgd her and told her to "blame returning late to work because a handsome stranger she is going to see again next week gave her a great time at lunch". A bit cheeky in confirming another meet, but so far - no reply.

She seemed happy during that "lunch" but im not sure what i detect from her, either im a good friend who is touchy or a possible candidate 2 be her bf.

Lets wait for the next update. I just gotta make better plans and excuses for better kino! during the entire time together, i'd rate my kino levels as low - maybe thats the AFC side of me kicking in. i had tried my best to avoid lunch, knowing that there would be minimum kino involved and only talk - which AFCs and LJBF get

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also, there's no real way of me actually contacting or "bumping" into the other hb8 with all the cousins, so i'll have to drop my attempts with her and her cousins for now and work on this beauty.

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he who makes no mistakes, makes no move

Your major weakness right now is your inner game. Work on that as much as possible. Your confidence, your sense of self-worth. Build that up.

lol, that means get a good job with competitive income, and go to the gym. it's hard to pretend to be confident.