Caught between heaven and hell (voltaire's FR)



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:28 am 
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I think this is my first field report, I don't really do field reports but I played a few solid sets this weekend and some of you guys might get something out of it.
Friday night I go into town with my wing he's pretty new to PU but he's making some good progress but still has a lot of AA.

We go to our first bar which is my favourite place for a beer, it's got something like 300 different beers to choose from, unfortunately the place is devoid of talent not a single hb.
Second bar:
We go to a gay bar on the spur of the moment. I get it in my head that tons of straight 9 and 10's are using it as some kind of safe haven.
We enter and it turns out that there's not much talent here either, But a few of my friends are. Turns out that one of them is DJing and I use her to social proof my wing and I, we get introduced to everyone in the bar practically.
I start to play pool with a massively camp guy, he's a fucking hustler I could tell from his first shot.
I didn't bet any money, but unfortunately my wing did when he played after me, sucker!
After the game I noticed 2 hb 6's by the bar one blonde and one brunette, it was the only set in the place, and I desperately needed a practice set. I noticed that they we're looking over at us so I assumed they liked guys, i didn't really give a fuck if they did or not they we're going to be opened anyway.
I walked over and noticed the hustler talking to them. I used a situational opener and said "is he trying to hustle you too?!"
They laughed, I followed with a mystery move and took the brunette by the hand twisted her round and placed myself where she had been standing at the bar. I then leaned back against the bar so it looked like she was hitting on me. It's a move I hadn't used before but I saw it done the other day on a vid and had been aching to try it.
My wing was doing his job with the blonde, and my execution of mysterys twist and reposition had caught her attention.
At this point I had used no negs, just eye contact, push and pull and a lot of cocky funny.
I was getting a lot of IOI's from the brunette, she was asking my age, what I did for a living, I think I rolled off a few times as part of my push pull, something else I hadn't really done much of, but it worked.
I was getting a bit bored this being my practice set and all, she could see she was losing the crowd, so she pulled out the big guns:
"so are you into kink, like bondage and stuff?"
That caught my attention, if there is ever a line that can pull a drowning set back that's the one.
I'd like to point out that I haven't had much experience with the hardcore kink only the basic stuff with ex's like handcuffs, ropes stuff like that.

Being a PUA I like to push boundaries and I'm pretty curious about the whole thing to be honest, plus Im good friends with a few fetish models.
Im not easily shocked so I I kept a straight face with a slight smile and replied with something like " I have some experience, yes."
Her face light up, "you have got to look at this website"
Her blonde friend shakes her head, but I say it's cool with a non-chalant attitude.
She pulls her phone out and shows me her profile on some kink website, I'm not going to lie it was graphic!
This set has gone mental and I'm trying to remember at what point I lit the touch paper.
She asked me for my Facebook, I gave her my number.
She text me the next day, we had a long conversation talking about what we're going to do to each other this Friday night.
I seem to have the ability to get people to open up to me in a short period of time, I think this is an important attribute for a pua, especially to build comfort.
There were other sets and numbers that night but only one of note: my wing challenged me to a 5 minute number close, I did it in 6 but wasted a minute and a half on her friend.
The girl is a guaranteed flake, I built no comfort, I just did it for the challenge.

Saturday night:
I went out for food with two good school mates, and then to a bar. My friends had to work in the morning so they wanted to leave early, luckily I bumped into some guys I kinda knew and they invited me out with them.
One of the guys took the piss and tried to amog me in the new group, he said: "This guy thinks he's some kind of ladies man"
To be fair every time I've seen him I have either been with girls or just about to open a set of some girls.
The other guys wanted to see me after this.
I accepted there challenge.
We entered a new bar and as soon as we got in there I spotted a mixed 3 set 1 guy and 2 girls hb 7.5 and 8.
I said to the guys "how about those over there, anyone want to wing me?"
They all said you haven't got a chance, there's a guy with them! And we want to get a drink first.
Typical AFC response.
I walked over and used the classic opener who lies more girls or boys?
After they answered the guy goes "you didn't really come over her to ask that did you?!"
I said: "no I came over to talk to the girls of course, I just needed an excuse"
They all laughed and the guy said " That takes fucking balls, how do you know I'm not one of their boyfriends?"
I replied "your body language is all wrong, I could see it a mile off."
And I could, my hunch was that he had a onitis over the hb 7.5.
I asked the guy "do you smoke?"
He says "sure"
Come outside and I'll explain all about it.
The girls at this point are pretty confused, I've come over to talk to them and been direct about it, and then I isolate their male friend.
I do this mainly because I want to pump him for information, on the girls.
He tells me about his onitis with the hb7.5
I tell him I can help him out, and introduce him to the foundations of pick u, he's excited..

We go back inside and he buys his onitis a drink. They never listen?
I start talking to his onitis, and ignore the hb8 she tries to enter the conversation none the less, I neg. "is she always like this?" I up the kino a little on her arm and knee, just quick touches when I make a point.
I then give the hb8 some attention I cube her, she has a small cube. Unusual.
I ask which one is the good hb and which is the bad hb. I find out that hb 8 my target is definitely the good one she's a virgin and only 19.
It was genuine too I could tell, her friend tried to re qualify her by saying she gives great blow jobs though, hb8 nods along, "saying yeah I do".
This is quite a contrast from Friday night I have a little kinkster on one side and a pure virgin on the other (well maybe not pure).

We bounce to another bar, the girls get a table and I get a drink.
When I come back I hold out my hand for hb 8 to take, I lift her out of her seat and I slip into it, I softly pull her onto my lap. The move was effortless and smooth. The guys looked at me with amazement, this is why I wanted to learn pickup.
Here exactly is my escalation up to the kiss close:
I smelt her hair and asked her what shampoo she used, I made sure I brushed her neck with my nose as I breathed in, she juddered a little, that told me I hit the right spot.
I moved her hair back and kissed her neck, another quiver. During all this I'm moving just one of my fingers up and down her legs and body really softly.
The sexual tension is pretty high at the minute and she turns round on my lap to kiss me, I tease her and make her wait.
I finally kiss her and pull her hair a little at the same time. She likes it.
I go outside for a cigarette, with her guy friend.
He says "you've gotta teach me that!, can I take your number, we've got to go out, you so cool."
I give him my number and open several sets outside the window that hb8 is next to, she's puppy dog eyeing me, I wave and draw a heart on the window and smile. She laughs and goes red, all the girls look at me. Priceless.
I think that's all the useful infield stuff.
Here's some of the txt game from the next day though, I fucked up but managed to recover really well:

Voltaire:Hey trouble what are you un to?

About 3 hours later
Hb8: heyy, sorry been asleep all day lol you?

Voltaire: played golf this morning, I was supposed to be watching a film later but my mate can't make it, so I'll prob just chill at home.
Have you had a bit of hang over today? X
(notice I've added an x this time to see if she'll do the same)

Hb8: Ohh I see! Umm just a little bit :( felt really sick too!
Were you hungover? X

Voltaire: not really, I don't get hangovers unless I drink lots. I did get up late though. Did you have fun last night, was it worth the hangover? X

Hb8: ohh lucky you then! Yeah same as me and hb 7.5! Yeah was pretty good, did you enjoy it? x

Voltaire: yep I met you. X ( that's an AFC comment if ever I saw one, I fucking kicked myself after that!)

Hb8: aww well I'm going to be straight with you before I lead you on! I'm happy being single at the moment and don't want anything serious and I enjoy being on my own! I'm sorry if I led you on last night.

Notice how there's no kiss, and she thinks she led me on, it was straight up suduction and I'm not prepared to have her reframe my hard work.

Voltaire: That's cool I'm enjoying the single life too, I'm seeing a few other girls at the minute so I'm not after anything serious, just to hang out sometime. I don't think you led me on, I like to think I seduced you ;-). X

Hb8: Ahh good, I was so worried about saying something! Yeah sounds good to me! Haha oh do you now? ;) x

Voltaire: you can say pretty much what ever you want to me I'm pretty laid back and don't worry I don't get hung up on girls even ones as pretty as you.
Yep I'm pretty sure I seduced you and I can't promise I won't do it again. :-p x

Hb8: ahh good and shut up! Ohh really

Voltaire: when I'm next out I'll give you a call, I'll seduce you and you can resist, it'll be fun.

Hb8: okay then it's a plan.

Sorry this is so long, I've tried to put as much detail in as I can, while it's fresh in my head, this isn't supposed to be a brag so Ive tried to add as much technique as I can.
This has been the first weekend where everything kinda clicked and I didn't think about what I was consciously doing, I was using techniques that I'd read about or seen fluidly.
I've tried to put them into context for people who are having trouble with the kiss close. I don't know of any other pua that escultates like this in a club environment, only in a home environment. I've gone from stealing a chair, heavy kino, hair smelling, neck kissing and biting to finally kiss close (this is technically styles kiss close but in a different setting). The only other method I've used is eye and mouth triangulation, but this worked better for me.
The crucial part of the seduction was the chair steal it allowed me to escalate quickly.
Thank you mystery.
I welcome critique and comments.



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:23 pm 
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Update:
I blew off a sure thing with the kinkster. When I started this I promised myself I wouldn't go below a hb 7 and I'd aim for 8,9, and 10's.

I bumped into the virgin last night, she got seduced. There was no resistance.
I going out with her tomorrow, I'll keep you all updated with my progress.


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Nice sets man. The second night sounds cool. I always do the same thing in front of mutual friends when I meet them for the first time. Just show off and let everyone know what's up!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:10 pm 
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Nice sets man. The second night sounds cool. I always do the same thing in front of mutual friends when I meet them for the first time. Just show off and let everyone know what's up!

Glade
Thanks glade Ive read all your field reports and learned a few things to add to my game.
Update:

I've found myself gaming all the time now, I've tried to integrate it into my personality, I'm pushing and pulling naturally, kino comes easy and I find a woman's reaction to it instantly switch. I can only emphasise guys, than kino is what changes a standard interaction with a women from a friendly chat into a suduction.

I went out with the cute 19 year old today and thought I'd say a few things about a successful day 2 senario:
Basically if you come on too needy you will get flaked on. I specifically avoided the term date, I purposefully emphasised than I want to hang out. My reason for this was that theres no pressure on either of us to conform to the standard AFC way of dating; basically I take her to dinner pay for everything and maybe end up with a kiss if I'm lucky.
PUA's avoid this situation, by literally doing something that they would do with one of their guy mates.

So I decided to go shopping for me and invite her along.
We met for coffee first. I arrived 10mins early, the reason is two fold:
- I wanted to pick where we sat, because I like to be able to see the room as most of you guys will understand, and I wanted seats that we could both sit next to each other on.
I picked a table with four seats and a table, I then pushed the table up tight against two of the seats leaving the seat I was sitting on and the one next to me easily accessible. This is technically environment manipulation in order to allow a PUA to kino easier.
- The second reason was so that I didn't have to buy both of us coffee. I wanted to avoid that awkward moment where your not sure if you should offer to buy her a coffee or not, your never sure if the girl is going to be a closet suffragette.

As planned she walked in and sat next to me, we small talked and flirted.
Then something interesting came up, one of the guys I was out with has apparently been Facebooking the second girl in the set I opened up.
The girl I was out with showed me the forwarded email from her friend.
It was literally an essay he wrote to the poor girl, about bad past relationships And why he's so shy and didn't come up to her himself (he piggybacked my set).
He's a really nice guy too, he's not bad looking, he must have got screwed up by some girl at some point though.
In the email he referred to a conversation we had before I opened the set, it was about AA. He said it scared the shit out of him to approach hot girls, I told him he was seeing it all wrong, and that I like that feeling, it's something you shouldn't ignore.
He pretty much pointed out the difference between a PUA and an AFC in black and White, it only went to help my date.
I suppose this is the reason I'm going on dates and he's writing emails.

Back to the date, we looked round the shops tried on funny hats and had a laugh. If there was an opportunity to flirt with a hired gun I did: the girl at the art gallery, the girl selling holidays and the girl in the bar where we got a drink. I'm pretty sure I could have number closed the holiday girl, she was at least a hb8.

When we went to the bar for a drink, the bar girl gave me that look, the one that says your cute and I'm interested but your with another girl.
My date clocked this, and me smiling back.
She said "I think she likes you"
I said "I think she might" smiled and replied "so drinks upstairs?"
We had drinks and I let her talk, I just shut the fuck up and let her reveal her passions and ambitions, I looked into her big blue eyes and smiled.
We played footsie, it was fun.

We went shopping into a food Market, she had to pick up some girly bits for her sister. She was embassesed, so naturally I drew attention to her, by asking "what kind of tampons are you after the extra large you say?!" then proceeding to throw them at her. I had fun.
Next we went upstairs to look around the homeware section, I had set the frame of being married and looking for stuff for the mansion.
We kissed and groped in the blender section, I remember because I thought to myself I could really do with one of these, shit it comes in Crome!
So we go to the checkout, I purposefully try to find a checkout with a young teenage boy just to add to the embarrassment. She heads straight to the self service for a quick exit.
She beeps all the stuff through and realises she doesn't have a card on her, and the machine doesn't except cash.
I call for assistance.
A young teenage boy arrives on cue.
I'm pissing myself and so is she, hitting me on the shoulder.
We finally pay and leave.
I walk her to her car, we kiss, I leave.
This in my opinion was a good date, and cost nothing.

Important parts: Setting a frame that your married, or getting married. This is kinda conspiracy game, something both of you know that nobody else does, your not married but its fun to pretend. Glade might have a few good pointers on this hit him up.

Kino: on a day two it's basically a night set isolation but you get 3 hours to escalate. Also don't wait until the end of a date to kiss the girl, it's AFC.
A good way to get sexual is to walk through the underwear section and pick stuff up for them to try on, they won't do it, but they'll get the underlying suggestion.

Flirt: with other girls, don't necessarily straight up game, just flirt. If you think you can number close and not get caught do it, but you will blow yourself out of the water if you get caught.

Logistics: environment manipulation, move shit if it's in the way of your kino escalation, or move yourself.

Hope this helps comrades.
Voltaire.


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Enjoyed your FR's. Nicely done sir! I hope you do make it to the states sometime and by all means hit us up. We'd love to have you out with us.

-LeDuke


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Enjoyed your FR's. Nicely done sir! I hope you do make it to the states sometime and by all means hit us up. We'd love to have you out with us.

-LeDuke
Thanks leDuke I'd love to come over, I'm planning on doing something at the end of this year, either canada or the US, not sure yet.


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