dicklow, where in my post at all did I refer this to sex?

Youve pretty much just said that this all just about trying to get laid for you? Is that your only idea of success... sex? Thats fine if thats what you want, but most successful people I know arent as shallow and narrow minded as this and have much bigger plans. Success comes in many forms. Your idea of success in my opinion is the lowest of them all. I suggest you work on improving other areas of your life to try and escape yourself from this mindset.
No one should control the lives of others. It seems like you are just talking about your own life because I have no idea where you are getting all these ideas from. They had to come from somewhere. maybe a bit close to home?

*Sighs*

Useless strawman tactics that from this point forward I will not respond to.

if youre using pickup methods to define a simple debate/argument as this then you are letting 'game' really get the better of you.

Strawman is a logical fallacy where you make up stuff that isn't real based on a previous sentence someone used. Pick-up just took the concept. Fortunately it's been around for millenia. We can all sigh in relief now.

This is seriously the last time I address any of your idiotic posts though.

Thats why the quote tool is very useful and I just used that =)

perhaps you will now think about what you say first next time =)

Kids seeking self-validation through calling themselves alpha and judging levels of alphaness of other people-not cool.

Concept of "Alpha" being useless- I disagree.


I believe every man has set of characteristics he considers masculine. There are always people/characters with certain qualities that you find attractive and want to possess-be it intelligence, confidence, integrity-for every person they're different imho.

Also, being the best you can be...that image of yourself with all those awesome characteristics-isn't that what being alpha means?-I think its a beautiful goal.

I'd rather work towards becoming someone I respect rather than sit on the couch all day long and feel miserable. And inevitably, for every man, that image is always alpha in one way or another. I have never seen guys, hoping to become insecure, super-reactive and get shit nervous when talking to girls.


So yeah...I think concept of Alpha is useful-although it does differ from person to person.

Seeking validation - not. Seeking validation from virtual guys on interner-not cool at all.

peace.

People attempt to control others in a desperate bid to compensate for other areas they lack control in, namely their own lives. People who attempt to control others are typically narcissistic by nature (a narcissist, for example will do favors for people that will allow him or her greater leverage in the relationship; not for the other person's benefit but ultimately for the narcissists').

On a side note, the term Alpha is being bandied about way too much in the PUA field. I think it'd be more fruitful to encourage neophyte PUAs to work on developing a stronger sense of self which precedes, albeit fuels one's confidence.

Genghis Khan - Great Power - Great Choice over women in the largest empire known to man. End of story.


Alpha in the animal kingdom agrees very well with the lord of heaven - Temujin.



This community is now very big, and has two mind sets the alpha and the hippy.

Frankly it's an aim to be alpha, those that are natural leaders u can tell from watching the body language, just like watching animals.

However for most just learning social socials skills, smiling, dressing nice and having a decent frame is enough. Being happy is a moderate goal for most. It is very hard if one has a poor self image.

A lot confident guys are joining this community which is good, but I feel they lack the insight to know what it feels like to be at the bottom.

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That's the point.

This is the 'beginning' of the story. What about all the other people in our history who've done very well with women? Hermit artists, writers, comedians, athletes, local milk delivery guy, etc . . . what we're trying to do is figure out their commonalities.

Try to look beyond "the guy who killed everybody and forced betas to give up their wives and daughters to his harem". - This definition is essentially what the whole 'alpha' movement in the PU community is a all about but it's 1. Wrong definition of 'alpha'. 2. Wrong methods for achieving it. 3. And it's not even a commonality in people who do well with women. (The alphas are just more prominent members of any typical society and thus much more visible)
1. We are not animals.
2. Some of the goofiest, nerdiest, nervous people are the World's most prominent leaders/alphas.
3. We study movements of animals because we have no idea what they're thinking or and we can't communicate with them.
4. With human beings, we have 100% living proof whether a person is alpha or not. If he is an alpha/leader, then he is an actual leader of men. He runs a company, he is the captain of a sport team, he holds a political position, he runs a gang of 7 dwarfs. He's the leader of his band. He has a follower of students.

So now that you know the definition of alpha, let's play a little quiz, "alpha or not":

1. The dean at your school.
2. The peach fuzz faced kid who runs Facebook.
3. The members of this forum who claim they are 'alpha'. (Especially when they do NOTHING else in their lives other than play x box once in while and flex in front of their mirrors)
4. A sushi chef.
5. A car mechanic.
6. A massage therapist.
7. A judge.
8. The street clown.
9. Truck driver.
10. Dopey.

^Which of these guys can get laid consistently ? And what are the qualities that might help them?
^This mentality is consistent with the alpha monkey act this community loves to sell. Bottom in terms of PU = not getting the girls. Top = getting the girls. Try to stop associating our little 'game' with all the other bullshit that has nothing to do with it.

Well Kasabi u r objective.

I will just have to politely disagree. The Alpha chimp is top dog sexually, physically and intellectually. Ur examples are only alpha in one respect 'authority', they do not profess the sexual prowess of a chimp. Ur example of hermits, they are only sexually active but physically weak. The hermit example may help some PUAs but not all.

U can't ignore the fact that some PUAs have a lot of emotional baggage. This field is broad and we are lucky to have different styles to cater for the different personalities.

I suggest u watch Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes, it is inspiring. It is a beacon of leadership. Then again u probably will not like it.

U do have a strong position and it will be hard for anyone to convince u otherwise.

I do admire ur innergame though. As U have a sort of contentedness about u.

I won't go further as u have an iron will.

Thank u Kasabi for responding.

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Hobbit I stand corrected. Well done.

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I'm more afraid of you using the word Alpha then what the definition is. . .
He would not like it why? A profound reason please. And a beacon of Leadership? Oh please, it's as stereotype as it can be. Hell with leadership!

As to this, I'm constipated. You don't want to continue OR you don't dare to continue?

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Hmm nice post deleting the paradigm of the alpha male. This is perhaps one of the best posts I've seen so far.