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 Post subject: Dancing
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:36 pm 
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Often in a club I might be talking to a girl and getting on good and then she suggests to go to the dance floor. I really don't feel comfortable dancing(unless i'm very drunk) so I normally say something like "no I'm ok, I'm going to hang here, I'll see you around later".

I really feel like this is holding me back for a few reasons:
1. sometimes I think she thinks that I don't like her because I rejected her offer
2. Dancing can be a fun and sexual thing so if a girl knows you don't like to dance I feel like she'll think I'm a boring-scared-unfun person
3. I don't like that there's something holding me back with girls and that there's something I'm afraid of. I feel like this is something that I should be able to overcome.

When I'm dancing I find I'm paying attention to all my movements and I can't just let go and relax.

I also think that being able to dance would be a great asset because if your ever find that a conversation with a girl is starting to fizzle out you can just say, hey lets go dancing!

So I'm wondering does anyone know good online video or ebook tutorials on dancing in a club that I can download or buy? Or even if you were in a similar situation before and how you overcame it?


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Having finished uni and stopped drinking on nights out this is a big problem for me as well. Used to be the sporty, 'dancing is a bit gay' type of person and regretting than now lol. Adam Lyons and I think badboy have some quality videos up for dance floor game but not really how to dance. There's no chance i'm going to convince myself to go to dance lessons so would be great if anyone has anything


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Anyone? Anything?


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Often in a club I might be talking to a girl and getting on good and then she suggests to go to the dance floor. I really don't feel comfortable dancing(unless i'm very drunk) so I normally say something like "no I'm ok, I'm going to hang here, I'll see you around later".

I really feel like this is holding me back for a few reasons:
1. sometimes I think she thinks that I don't like her because I rejected her offer
2. Dancing can be a fun and sexual thing so if a girl knows you don't like to dance I feel like she'll think I'm a boring-scared-unfun person
3. I don't like that there's something holding me back with girls and that there's something I'm afraid of. I feel like this is something that I should be able to overcome.

When I'm dancing I find I'm paying attention to all my movements and I can't just let go and relax.

I also think that being able to dance would be a great asset because if your ever find that a conversation with a girl is starting to fizzle out you can just say, hey lets go dancing!

So I'm wondering does anyone know good online video or ebook tutorials on dancing in a club that I can download or buy? Or even if you were in a similar situation before and how you overcame it?
I used to have the exact same problem! I have uttered that very sentence that I have bolded.

The first time I went to a club dancing it was very difficult for me because i had ZERO friends in high school so I found it intimidating being in a club with the cool kids.

The second time I went out dancing with my Chick magnet friends they told me to just mimic what they where doing I felt uncomfortable but then an attractive female touch my ass I then approached her and her friend pulled out a camera to take a picture of us I posed as if i was about to kiss her then she pulled me in to finish what i had started.

I couldn't believe it I didn't know what to do, this blonde who would never have given me the time in high school wanted me. I simply couldn't believe it the, thing that astounded me the most was that I didn't even know what I was doing on the dance floor! I then established that nobody knows how to dance they are just people who are just trying to look like they are having fun.


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I know a few ppl who tried learning dancing from videos and it never worked out for them, so I don’t recommend it. Girls honestly don’t care if your good or not, they just care if they are having fun.

If she asks you to dance, what I do is grab her hand lead her to the dance floor, spin her around a bit, get closer and closer to her and then start grinding with her. You do not need to know how to dance to be able to grind.

If you don’t think she’ll want to grind, when she asks you to dance, say ill only go on the floor if you teach me a new move. She’ll have fun teaching you a new move, and you’ll learn how to dance.

If worse comes to worse and she won’t get close or teach you, then mimic other guys in the club who look like they know what they are doing.

Sorry but the only way ull learn how to dance is if you’re practising on the dance floor. After a few (or many) awkward times ull get the hang of it and then ull be comfortable in your own skin. Make it a goal to dance at least once at every club/bar u go to, and ull be a champ in no time.

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I've seen people in clubs where I'm from, who can dance incredibly well (think of Step Up and all those kind of movies) yet no girls approached them, then other people I know who are rather good with women dancing and women approach them and they get grinded on etc.
The guys getting grinded on have no idea how to dance, so in my opinion, as long as you're other there with a smile on your face, clearly having fun, or grinding/dirty dancing with a girl it shouldn't really matter. Only tips I've got is listen to the music, go with it, relax (it's noticeable when you're concentrating on what you're doing rather than having fun) and have fun.
Hope it all works out for you.


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totally true, talking by experience, iam a exelent dancer, dont know why, but iam, owever, my best friend who dont knows how to dance, and just moove his elbow, smilling with no dance moves at all, is the guy who get the girl every time.

now, how can you explain that? lol

its not important to dance as said before, important is to have fun, as a good dancer often i feel like bored to dance good, and start to make like silly dances, and everyone loves, because shows that you are confident, and you are having lots of fun.


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Check Youtube for " Clubdancelessons "

Apart of that, I see no reason to dance in clubs when it comes to attract girls.

1. fucks up your kind of game ( its too loud to start conversation )
2. attracts cock teaser´s like hell
3. becomes boring after a while ( energy level drops down )

If you see a really hot girl in the club, go for a dominant body language at first ( basics are written here ) , make intenese eye contact ( sexual ) then approach with S&A openers.
It is important to go for the hottest chicks in the club, otherwise it does not work
(not congruent )
You have to keep in mind that HB8-10´s dance with a lot of guys who talk BS and become rejected.
Thats your time to approach direct, sexual and aggressive.

It works like a charm every time, downside is that you gonna attract lots of AMOG´s / Cockblockers who are simply jealous.
Be aware of eventual conflicts or bouncers who will throw you out of the club.


Happened to me many times,

KentBaxxter


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who cares if you cant dance. just own it. girls will think its cute if you just be yourself and own it. you dont have to like your flaws, but all you have to do is know you have them and just own them. i can sing, or dance or sing and dance lol but i just make a fool of my self trying. its not about succeeding or failing its about trying. and like after you own your dancing skills or lack there of go up to her and be like " yeah i just owned that dance floor" sarcastically. also dancing is not that hard in clubs cuz unlike the tango or waltz the girl will lead just follow where her ass is and thrust. make it like slow sexual standing up dry humping. and FYI when move side to side you are dancing so there for you can dance lol


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I'm pro on the dance floor! Plus I love to dance ^_^.

The trick is to have fun and be silly. Silly dance moves are the best to even make a girl come to you. I know how ridiculous this may sound but I've field tested this multiple times!

By yourself or with a girl on the dance floor,
1) the macarana goes with any beat and every one knows it. (Of gotten the whole dance floor doing this dance!)
2) The asian peace sign hovering over your eyes.
3) The carlton dance from the Fresh prince of bell air.
4) Pelves thrusting.
5) Making boxes with your hands around your face.
6) Do some nerdy dancing.

Notice when girl(s) approaches you or tries to mimic your moves. Very simple to do and it really is so silly that you will laugh of how silly it is.

If you do all of these with eye contact ... massive attraction and sexual tension will be built!

Notice when they have those anime eyes (really wide opened eyes) and then go in for the grind. I usually put my left leg in between her legs. It is a form of bachata dancing/grinding.

Optional to do some sexual escalation at this point. Do some make outs ... if she build enough tension ... you can continue for the make out!

My favorite move on the dance floor: When you notice a group of girls forming a circle and dancing ... Jump in the middle and individually dance with each girl every 2 second. Jump in with super direct and high energy.

Self amusement = attraction from surrounding.

But, ultimately if you are seriously having fun (self amused) and look COMFORTABLE and RELAXED, girls will come to you because they want to have fun to!

Because listen, why do you feel like not dancing? It is because you don't know how to dance and feel embarrassed that people will judge your crappy dancing. You feel like you want to impress the people/girl.... But, doesn't that sound needy or seeking validation?

But, imagine if you suck at dancing, but you don't care what people think of you, so you have fun. The girl will see this and massive attraction will form because you are having fun and you are comfortable and relaxed doing it!

Dance floor game can be fun! Just don't limit yourself by caring what other people think of you! You are number one! Put yourself first before others ... have fun and do what you want to do! When you do this ... you will suck people into your reality ... crazy stuff eh? Try it out ... it's really fun ^_^!

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I'm pro on the dance floor! Plus I love to dance ^_^.

The trick is to have fun and be silly. Silly dance moves are the best to even make a girl come to you. I know how ridiculous this may sound but I've field tested this multiple times!

By yourself or with a girl on the dance floor,
1) the macarana goes with any beat and every one knows it. (Of gotten the whole dance floor doing this dance!)
2) The asian peace sign hovering over your eyes.
3) The carlton dance from the Fresh prince of bell air.
4) Pelves thrusting.
5) Making boxes with your hands around your face.
6) Do some nerdy dancing.

Notice when girl(s) approaches you or tries to mimic your moves. Very simple to do and it really is so silly that you will laugh of how silly it is.

If you do all of these with eye contact ... massive attraction and sexual tension will be built!

Notice when they have those anime eyes (really wide opened eyes) and then go in for the grind. I usually put my left leg in between her legs. It is a form of bachata dancing/grinding.

Optional to do some sexual escalation at this point. Do some make outs ... if she build enough tension ... you can continue for the make out!

My favorite move on the dance floor: When you notice a group of girls forming a circle and dancing ... Jump in the middle and individually dance with each girl every 2 second. Jump in with super direct and high energy.

Self amusement = attraction from surrounding.

But, ultimately if you are seriously having fun (self amused) and look COMFORTABLE and RELAXED, girls will come to you because they want to have fun to!

Because listen, why do you feel like not dancing? It is because you don't know how to dance and feel embarrassed that people will judge your crappy dancing. You feel like you want to impress the people/girl.... But, doesn't that sound needy or seeking validation?

But, imagine if you suck at dancing, but you don't care what people think of you, so you have fun. The girl will see this and massive attraction will form because you are having fun and you are comfortable and relaxed doing it!

Dance floor game can be fun! Just don't limit yourself by caring what other people think of you! You are number one! Put yourself first before others ... have fun and do what you want to do! When you do this ... you will suck people into your reality ... crazy stuff eh? Try it out ... it's really fun ^_^!

Sincerely,

Donston
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Follow what this guy says. Only thing I would add to it, is recently I've been getting the dance moves from "The Inbetweeners" movie, if you happen to know the one's I mean. Gotten a whole dance floor doing that, was so good, and it's super easy to do.


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When i'm sober and in a club dancing i feel weird aswell, what i like to think:

Everyone (probally 95%) around you is drunk, they don't care what's going on around them, do you really think they will notice you dancing?

Just imagine yourself being drunk, do you ever look at someone dancing and think ''look at him'' ? (Unless it's a hot girl obviously) .. I personally don't, i think it's more obvious if everyone is dancing and you're standing in the corner doing nothing but looking..


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I had this problem and my friend who is has literally no self consciousness at all dancing told me something and after that my game on the dance floor got so much better. He just said "if you just completely focus on enjoying yourself and enjoying the music then you look so much better". ie. It doesn't actually matter if you dance like a fucking chicken, it will still look good if your just completely focused on enjoying yourself. Its just the self consciousness that makes you look bad. Id say the most important aspect about dancing is the vibe/energy you give off, not actually your moves.

Three night he told me that he was dancing right near the bar where there was a big space, not even on the dancefloor. He was going fucking mental dancing his ass off and he looked pretty ridiculous, but he was smiling the whole time pretty much cos he was just having fun. As a result although he was dancing fucking mentally he gave off such a good, confident and fun vibe that you could see girls looking at him and loving it. At one point he was doing this kind of dance off with some girl doing really over the top high energy moves right in her face but she loved it.

Also look around the dancefloor.. MOST people suck at dancing too.. And most people don't let themselves go completely cos they're feeling somewhat self conscious too, thats why they often dance in circles of their friends.

After he told that advice I started getting much more attention from girls. I could see them moving closer to me on the dance floor and keep looking at me. When one got close enough that she obviously wanted to dance with me I just stepped forward and danced with her from behind straight away and she turned round after about 5 seconds and made out with me. I think she did it so quick because I came across as really confident since most guys will hesitate or start dancing with her in an unsure way. I literally stepped forward as soon as I saw that she was deliberately try to get nearer to me and held her waist from behind while dancing and had my other arm out straight going past her head... No hesitation at all

I think when you give off a fun care free vibe like that you will see girls trying to get nearer to you on the dancefloor and that makes you so much more confident about dancing with them cos you can see that they want it.


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Think everyone has summed it up nicely, pretty much no-one has a clue what they're doing or are too drunk or self concious to properly care what your doing. I've been tackling this sticking point as well and its really not as bad as you expect.

Basically keep a smile on your face and show you're there to have fun and show yourself to be energetic. I have absolutely no moves what-so-ever but hey you don't really need them. If you are really nervous about it you can watch what others are doing and imitate but if you really pay attention they will probably just be moving randomly.

A post that helped me was one by rezrez0, so full credit to him for this. At some point you can take the girl by the hand and make her do a spin. This will portray you as a fun person who is there to have a good time. After the spin has finished you are left with a number of options, you can continue dancing by yourself, you can build on the contact you now have with her and begin dancing with her or if you're confident you can go for the kiss. What I tend to do is after the spin, pull them into a hug, do a playful waltz for a few seconds then move my hands to her hips and dance with her.

I've never tried using this is an opener as the dance floor is still a sticking point for me too but I use it frequently after opening and it has never failed me.


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