Hey brothers'

I'm getting good at opening now but I have difficulty controlling the frame. This is even morey true when it comes to follow up. I think a big reason is due to my work because I work a heap of days together and have a heap off and knowing my luck I always meet the girls on the days off and have to wait forever to meet up with them.

Anyways how do you reinforce the framing?

Check out this dude's frame control. It's extremely strong, but eventually it breaks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GeLy9LXypk

Interesting that you should mention frame control. I wrote a post on that a while ago. Hope it helps you man!

ezos-take-on-frame-wars-vt102109.html?highlight=frame

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

This frame stuff is so overrated. Simply approach women (it's a numbers game in more ways than one), if you get rejected reload and move onto the next. If you try and control each and every interaction you have with a girl under some false belief that it'll win her over you're sorrily mistaken, as are many in the PUA community. Controlling the frame makes you look like a freak, and any self-respecting woman will see you as a manipulative jerk who is only trying to infantilize her.

Work on your confidence, and you will attract women - this will only happen by talking to women every chance you get (practice makes perfect). Don't misconstrue confidence with controlling each and every interaction.

While I largely agree with your post on frames, it could have all been chalked down to one simple sentence. "Being humble is a noble (and appealing) virtue, and accept that with each and every interaction you have with people; there's always something to be learned," for example.

I dont think you got it then, there is a big difference between being humble, fake humble and being strong.

Being truly humble is just admitting that you can be wrong.

Faking being humble is when you think to yourself, now lets be humble, it is attractive and lets accept others.

Being strong is something completely different.

If you are strong enough, you have no fear of other peoples frames, you dont just allow them to exist and not just welcome them to live side by side with your frame. You allow their frame to rent a room in your frames chain of luxury hotels.

Humble is still about, yeah we can both be right, or you are right Im wrong but Im not gonna whine about it. Strong is about, awesome that you pointed that one out, I am gonna remember and treasure that new knowledge.

See the difference?

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Thank you all especially EZO,

You've given me alot of food for thought. I believe now that my problem does not lie with my frame control but with experience.

EZO makes a great statement when he mentions that desireable girls do challenge our frame and it's good when they are better at certain aspects of life then us because thats why we chase them, because they keep us entertained and allow us to learn new things which we suck at.

Thanks EZO solid post man.

I wasn't talking about FAKING/feigning humble, but rather being it. Further, the 2nd part of the sentence implies that multiple frames can coexist without one having to supplant, or 'conquer' the other. Get it? Got it? Good!:D

Always happy to help a fellow PUA!

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn