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Let's assume you've got good looks, a fit body, style (in the sense of the clothes you wear), a social life, personality, confidence, you can demonstrate your ability to lead groups of people, inner game, you're passionate about your job and you've got Game. Let's further assume that you've read all the books on being a PUA and have practiced for years at clubs, bars, bookstore, cafes and anywhere else you can meet girls.

Will you lose out every single time to a rich guy?
Yea i think not. just theres a guy anhs money, doesnt mean a girl oudnt want a guy with all the qualties listed above. i doubt a girl would fall head over heels, for a rich old 50 something year old :/
so she'd rather have a broke, loser who never had a woman in his life, who pretends he is a pua, because he read some book? LOL

Either way bro, nobody is mr perfect. it also doesnt mean she wants a guy with "game" game doesnt pay the rent.

everybody has something valuable, but u have to find it and use it on women who want it.
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Let's assume you've got good looks, a fit body, style (in the sense of the clothes you wear), a social life, personality, confidence, you can demonstrate your ability to lead groups of people, inner game, you're passionate about your job and you've got Game. Let's further assume that you've read all the books on being a PUA and have practiced for years at clubs, bars, bookstore, cafes and anywhere else you can meet girls.

Will you lose out every single time to a rich guy?
Yea i think not. just theres a guy anhs money, doesnt mean a girl oudnt want a guy with all the qualties listed above. i doubt a girl would fall head over heels, for a rich old 50 something year old :/
so she'd rather have a broke, loser who never had a woman in his life, who pretends he is a pua, because he read some book? LOL

Either way bro, nobody is mr perfect. it also doesnt mean she wants a guy with "game" game doesnt pay the rent.

everybody has something valuable, but u have to find it and use it on women who want it.
Well yea i know i was just trying to get my point across in regards to that a rich guy doesnt get what a MPUA would get you know? and sorry for all the typos :/

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You amaze me.

The women I slept with who had provider boyfriends had no to little respect for them.

Money can buy you sex (but there are other discussion boards for such a purpose), but can't buy you respect and love. Your personality can.

By the way I checked his wife and although I wouldn't hit it, she probably was hot in her 20's-30's.

Rich guy with charisma = WINNER
poor guy with charisma = winner
rich guy without charisma = loser (can buy sex)
poor guy without charisma = LOSER

Hope this really really simplified chart helps.
but u cant find charisma out of thin air. its one of those illusive qualities like a sense of humour. cant be learned or bought
I beg to differ. Can be learned.
Do you have charisma?
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The women I slept with who had provider boyfriends had no to little respect for them.
Exactly. The women I know who use guys for money don't even have sex with them, unless in LTR.
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Im arguing with a woman now? LOL should I take away accountability and reason?

well Nadine, even you dont understand yourself, imagine how us men feel.(...)
but nice to meet you, u must be REAL hot hanging around here... j/k

hang out with us hairy legged men, u might learn something
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The women I slept with who had provider boyfriends had no to little respect for them.
Exactly. The women I know who use guys for money don't even have sex with them, unless in LTR.
well if there not using them for money, they are using them for company, for a rebound, for a value and ego boast. or for sex

if a woman can be gamed by PUA material, then she will be gamed by the next pua to come along. why do people think this material makes them special.
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Im arguing with a woman now? LOL should I take away accountability and reason?

well Nadine, even you dont understand yourself, imagine how us men feel.(...)
but nice to meet you, u must be REAL hot hanging around here... j/k

hang out with us hairy legged men, u might learn something
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no it isnt, I went too far, im sorry how bout a hug?
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Money can buy you sex (but there are other discussion boards for such a purpose), but can't buy you respect and love. Your personality can.
Money can buy you respect and love, but is it the sort of love and respect you want tho? As both will be shallow and selfish in nature and will only last as long as the money flow does or you get out bid, it via money or by social status or both.
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Money can buy you sex (but there are other discussion boards for such a purpose), but can't buy you respect and love. Your personality can.
Money can buy you respect and love, but is it the sort of love and respect you want tho? As both will be shallow and selfish in nature and will only last as long as the money flow does or you get out bid, it via money or by social status or both.
and wearing a peacocking item into a public area, with wingmen or women to make u look like u have social proof, and telling bullshit DHV stories and negging etc is
respect worthy?

Cmon man review your own bullshit
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Women go for money. Some are simply gold diggers, but for most it;s as natural as going for a tall guy or a handsome guy. It's evolutionary value shes after.
You seriously need to stop listening to what society tells you. According to society and your line of thinking I should have a line of girls wanting to date me due to my height alone. Yet I see no line of girls, nor do I see any girl approaching me. Money can be a factor, but it doesn't hold the amount of power as you think it does.
well as i have said many times before most guys and most people fall in the middle of the pack.

average looking, average wealth, average height, average personality, average sense of humour, average game

now if u are really tall u have a slight advantage of those who are average accross the board. but it's not the be all and end all. if u look like lurch from the adams family while being tall, and u are boring, your advantage goes out the window.

u need to be acceptable on all levels, but having one stand out trait can be an deal breaker.
See the part that I bold? That has been my point all along. Its something you have failed to get because you are so caught up with what society has told you and not what reality is. Once you unlearn what society has said to you the quicker you will realize there are no leagues, that being rich doesn't hold that much power over a girl (generally speaking). If money or more being rich held that much power with girls I would be shit out of luck with where I live, as there are guys my age with way more money than I have yet I am able to compete against them just fine. Hell my friend who isn't even into PUA is able to numbers and what have you.
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You seriously need to stop listening to what society tells you. According to society and your line of thinking I should have a line of girls wanting to date me due to my height alone. Yet I see no line of girls, nor do I see any girl approaching me. Money can be a factor, but it doesn't hold the amount of power as you think it does.
well as i have said many times before most guys and most people fall in the middle of the pack.

average looking, average wealth, average height, average personality, average sense of humour, average game

now if u are really tall u have a slight advantage of those who are average accross the board. but it's not the be all and end all. if u look like lurch from the adams family while being tall, and u are boring, your advantage goes out the window.

u need to be acceptable on all levels, but having one stand out trait can be an deal breaker.
See the part that I bold? That has been my point all along. Its something you have failed to get because you are so caught up with what society has told you and not what reality is. Once you unlearn what society has said to you the quicker you will realize there are no leagues, that being rich doesn't hold that much power over a girl (generally speaking). If money or more being rich held that much power with girls I would be shit out of luck with where I live, as there are guys my age with way more money than I have yet I am able to compete against them just fine. Hell my friend who isn't even into PUA is able to numbers and what have you.
oh so instead of what society says, or what research says, or what logic says, i should just agree with u... jurupa. Got it!
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well as i have said many times before most guys and most people fall in the middle of the pack.

average looking, average wealth, average height, average personality, average sense of humour, average game

now if u are really tall u have a slight advantage of those who are average accross the board. but it's not the be all and end all. if u look like lurch from the adams family while being tall, and u are boring, your advantage goes out the window.

u need to be acceptable on all levels, but having one stand out trait can be an deal breaker.
See the part that I bold? That has been my point all along. Its something you have failed to get because you are so caught up with what society has told you and not what reality is. Once you unlearn what society has said to you the quicker you will realize there are no leagues, that being rich doesn't hold that much power over a girl (generally speaking). If money or more being rich held that much power with girls I would be shit out of luck with where I live, as there are guys my age with way more money than I have yet I am able to compete against them just fine. Hell my friend who isn't even into PUA is able to numbers and what have you.
oh so instead of what society says, or what research says, or what logic says, i should just agree with u... jurupa. Got it!
what are you even getting at?, look the point is, alot of people dis-agree with you, tons of girls are just easy and love sex, good looking bad looking, makes no difference, people are people, some girls sleep around, some girls are prude, some like funny guys, some like serious guys, some like tall guys, some like rich guys, some like kind guys, there are girls out there for everyone, the more attractive qualities you posses the more girls will say yes to you instead of no, but even if you are super attractive in every aspect there will still be girls that say no, and even if you are super unattractive there will still be girls that say yes,

if you want hotties, then just stop being a pussy and go talk to hotties, if you want uglies, then go talk to uglies, there is not really a difference between them besides supply and demand, you are as attractive to a hottie as you are to an ugly, they are both just people and all this bullshit is all in your head, the only difference is the hottie might have better options then you, and might have a higher self esteem then the uggo, pretty simple logic, but they also tend to be more comfortable with sex as they are less self conscious and more confident (sounds about right for hot looking guys too, they believe that they are attractive, and that in it's self makes them more confident)

girls like resisting, it's the guys job to rock the boat, if you think your a piece of shit, and you cant get cute girls, then don't approach and try to get cute girls, then good on you, keep thinking that, good luck with failing for the rest of your life
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See the part that I bold? That has been my point all along. Its something you have failed to get because you are so caught up with what society has told you and not what reality is. Once you unlearn what society has said to you the quicker you will realize there are no leagues, that being rich doesn't hold that much power over a girl (generally speaking). If money or more being rich held that much power with girls I would be shit out of luck with where I live, as there are guys my age with way more money than I have yet I am able to compete against them just fine. Hell my friend who isn't even into PUA is able to numbers and what have you.
oh so instead of what society says, or what research says, or what logic says, i should just agree with u... jurupa. Got it!
what are you even getting at?, look the point is, alot of people dis-agree with you, tons of girls are just easy and love sex, good looking bad looking, makes no difference, people are people, some girls sleep around, some girls are prude, some like funny guys, some like serious guys, some like tall guys, some like rich guys, some like kind guys, there are girls out there for everyone, the more attractive qualities you posses the more girls will say yes to you instead of no, but even if you are super attractive in every aspect there will still be girls that say no, and even if you are super unattractive there will still be girls that say yes,

if you want hotties, then just stop being a pussy and go talk to hotties, if you want uglies, then go talk to uglies, there is not really a difference between them besides supply and demand, you are as attractive to a hottie as you are to an ugly, they are both just people and all this bullshit is all in your head, the only difference is the hottie might have better options then you, and might have a higher self esteem then the uggo, pretty simple logic, but they also tend to be more comfortable with sex as they are less self conscious and more confident (sounds about right for hot looking guys too, they believe that they are attractive, and that in it's self makes them more confident)

girls like resisting, it's the guys job to rock the boat, if you think your a piece of shit, and you cant get cute girls, then don't approach and try to get cute girls, then good on you, keep thinking that, good luck with failing for the rest of your life
Again u talk as if u are the superior pick up artist, and im some loser like the entries on VH1 the pick up artist.

kindly dont talk down to me, and well get along
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oh so instead of what society says, or what research says, or what logic says, i should just agree with u... jurupa. Got it!
what are you even getting at?, look the point is, alot of people dis-agree with you, tons of girls are just easy and love sex, good looking bad looking, makes no difference, people are people, some girls sleep around, some girls are prude, some like funny guys, some like serious guys, some like tall guys, some like rich guys, some like kind guys, there are girls out there for everyone, the more attractive qualities you posses the more girls will say yes to you instead of no, but even if you are super attractive in every aspect there will still be girls that say no, and even if you are super unattractive there will still be girls that say yes,

if you want hotties, then just stop being a pussy and go talk to hotties, if you want uglies, then go talk to uglies, there is not really a difference between them besides supply and demand, you are as attractive to a hottie as you are to an ugly, they are both just people and all this bullshit is all in your head, the only difference is the hottie might have better options then you, and might have a higher self esteem then the uggo, pretty simple logic, but they also tend to be more comfortable with sex as they are less self conscious and more confident (sounds about right for hot looking guys too, they believe that they are attractive, and that in it's self makes them more confident)

girls like resisting, it's the guys job to rock the boat, if you think your a piece of shit, and you cant get cute girls, then don't approach and try to get cute girls, then good on you, keep thinking that, good luck with failing for the rest of your life
Again u talk as if u are the superior pick up artist, and im some loser like the entries on VH1 the pick up artist.

kindly dont talk down to me, and well get along
you got it man, you know me, good luck
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well as i have said many times before most guys and most people fall in the middle of the pack.

average looking, average wealth, average height, average personality, average sense of humour, average game

now if u are really tall u have a slight advantage of those who are average accross the board. but it's not the be all and end all. if u look like lurch from the adams family while being tall, and u are boring, your advantage goes out the window.

u need to be acceptable on all levels, but having one stand out trait can be an deal breaker.
See the part that I bold? That has been my point all along. Its something you have failed to get because you are so caught up with what society has told you and not what reality is. Once you unlearn what society has said to you the quicker you will realize there are no leagues, that being rich doesn't hold that much power over a girl (generally speaking). If money or more being rich held that much power with girls I would be shit out of luck with where I live, as there are guys my age with way more money than I have yet I am able to compete against them just fine. Hell my friend who isn't even into PUA is able to numbers and what have you.
oh so instead of what society says, or what research says, or what logic says, i should just agree with u... jurupa. Got it!
Read what pumpington said as he is right on the money in his reply.
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