Well, try to not think of it as a second chance, but approach this opportunity like you would the first time,except without your old "AFC" habits. This is a good chance for you to show her how much you've changed through the way you talk and conduct yourself. Also, don't bring up the past considering those weren't any good memories to look back at.

Go the normal way..

Light, Fun, Casual Flirting Conversation at the beginning --> Deep conversation/Sexual hints/ Expressing intent in the middle --> Clear sexualizing and escalation at the end.

You should be fine.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Seems to me she doesn't remember you enough. Perhaps you didn't make as much of a first impression on her to warrant a reply on your texting.

To be honest, spend a bit more time "in person" with her, get to know her better, try to get some rapport and comfort level. Also, you would do better to let her know who you are.. "Hey (her name). This is (your name) from facebook. Remember? "

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Thanks Don, will do

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"The bird sets itself on fire… and in the embers is an egg. In order to do great things, you've got to recreate yourself again ,and you can’t do that holding to a glory or a failure from yesterday. "

Well, she was vulnerable in exposing the whole situation at home and then apologising profusely about her behavior. So, the way I see it, she's at a little vulnerable ground and she needs you to be kind and warm and nice to her and most importantly, understanding on this situation.

Now, is she attracted to you or not? I don't know about that. But, what I know is that she seems to regard this relationship between you both in a good way, considering she went so out of her way to justify her behavior.

Be good, be warm, be kind, be mature, be understanding. That's your cue here.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Firstly, you need to understand something, the second date is what we usually call "Day 2" in the community and you are expected to sleep with the girl, generally at that stage, so as to not over-invest, lose your perspective and all that.

Two "okay" dates mean nothing, if there is no physical escalation and sexual overtones. To be honest, there is no hope of progress here. Also, she's not especially thrilled with the way you have handled this situation here, she gave you two chances to reach an outcome and you wasted it.

Go to Google and search for DiCarlo Escalation Ladder and download that pdf and understand and memorize that. That should give you a fair idea of how to approach the interactions with women from a physical point of view. Work on your escalation.

For now, try to get her to come out with you again and this team, be less hesitant and more direct.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

For the first bit of your situation about "not closing shit", go read my reply to the above poster and get the Escalation Ladder too.

Well, you can try to have short conversations every day either on the phone(~10-15 minutes) or on the text (~5-10 messages) and leave it at that. Just don't try to be too imposing on her time as she won't appreciate that. Handle the situation with regards to her state and you will do fine. Respect the fact that she has to study for something more important in her life ,at the moment.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Well, to be honest you can start off with firing her a message like this..

"Hey (girl's name)! It's me (your name), from the party. The guy whom you gave your number to. Remember? "

It's obvious, but to be honest with you there is not anything else to go on in this situation but state the obvious. Try to work from there depending on her reply.

Good luck, Dzeko.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Would you be able to have a quick look at some of the text log with these two girls? Getting no response from either of them now :/.

#1 (the one i got with before christmas):

5/1
me - on a scale of 1-omgawesome, how was it? oh, i have a really tough question for you... x (that was referring to her ski trip which we were talking about)
her - awesome! haha really! what is this tough question?! x
me - top... or bottom? x (planned on a joke about brushing top/bottom teeth, would have worked regardless of her response)

6/1
her - lol! what u on about? x

7/1
me - when you're back in [city], i'm taking you out. we'll go on an adventure. x (this is probably where i messed up, i dont know why i just didn't follow the path i intended with the top or bottom line)

9/1
me - personally, i always brush the top first. x (thought i may as well alleviate some of her confusion over the top or bottom thing but... meh :/

Then #2, the one i hadn't really spoken to for 4 months:

8/1
me - made you look.
her - made you look lol thats funny. you ok x
me - i'm simply splendid. what's going on in [name's] world nowadays?

9/1
her - im ok hows you not seen you in a while x
me - what kind of mischief did you cause on new years
her - i was workin so i didnt go out did you do much
me - hold on. you were making sandwiches at midnight for... wait... who would be there!? (well... who would be in a subway at the turn of new year?)


Nothing from either of them since. I can understand why for #1 but #2 has me stumped. I suppose i didn't answer a couple of her questions but they might have led to dead end, back and forth, conversation. What can i do to recover on these? Cheers man.

Being home over christmas break with not much to do is horrible for getting yourself into a state of analysis paralysis over stupid stuff like this :/

Posted: Today at 12:16 pm Post subject: text game plz see what u think its only short
can u read my text game and see if u can give me some tips and sometimes i run out of things to say

Me:Oii DickHead :p
Her:Alright Cunt
me:Only Im Calling u names dont join in,Spasticated Dolly!:p
Her:Pshhh WhatEver Hahaha Thats a new One..
me:You no too not join in my game:P
her:Ha Whys THat I Might Just Call you Bitch From Now Onto Annoy you muwahha
me:What u Been doing anyway ''Bitch''
Her:Dont call me bitch,bitch;) umm had a exam this morning just in bed now aha ?
Me:Who u talking to realy Bitch:P And err Ye your Boring Life *yawn*
Her:Haaa Na man i havent got a borin life
me:See dat Your my bitch you no not to say ''bitch'' whats so exciting about it den
her:Bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch ..Cunt
Me:You no when haylee starts talking to her self yeach that *Yawn*
Her:Pahaa Wow
Me:Its wow not *Laughing face*You noo..#
Her:Huhh
Me:Your Boring Me now
Her:Yeahh I Have no idea what your saying,Same goes for you

So basicly its starting good and went downhill how can i make it more exciting what shall i do if i run out of things to say and what do u think i need to doo???
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harrryyzz

I replied to an ad online and she says to me "So now that you've taken the plunge and ACTUALLY got my attention (which is rare considering I'm a busy girl and all) how are you going to keep it? "
What is a good response to that? I posted a thread of this. But a girl asked me something similar before and I don't think I have ever had a good reply.

Don, hoping you can help me on this...

Been PUAing for a few months now, and have had moderate success! but been trying to use Sinn's "breaking rapport" method for fast lays... I've tried "you cant dance" - poor girl cried... (came back to my place but no action), allowing awkward pauses to break rapport etc... any one have any routines that usually work so i can have something to base a new one on? Only reason i have kept on trying this is cos Sinn says its best way for quickest lays and i already have girls that i like on text/bbm chat and cant be bothered with more...

posted this elsewhere and noone responded

Since then, have met 1 girl who is playing hardball, very unresponsive then suddenly very responsive, whats your thoughts on going cold turkey for a few days then coming back in? and also, any ideas on what to come back in with? Do I go with something "hey, hows it going?" or maybe a neg?

Basically, seems a rushed up situation without no semblance of any rapport or comfort level established whatsoever. Work on those areas.
What is this again?

There was a chance to show her that you've matured and you behave like an absolutely pseudo-retarded kid with the "hold on. you were making sandwiches at midnight for... wait... who would be there!?" shit. Why the hell would you even care to bring up her NYE situation anyway? Who knows why she worked in for? And if you really had a great balling time, why rub it in?

You reply stinks of condescension and arrogance. And she didn't appreciate it at all. I'm not surprised.

If you do get another chance with her, I suggest you become a bit more mature in your texts. Would do you a world of good.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

This is one of the most appallingly low on brain matter conversations I have ever seen on my thread.

Firstly, try to type less like an idiot, more like a man.

Secondly, stop calling her bitch and dickhead and other more sophisticated names from your vocabulary.

Thirdly, grow up and try to talk about more interesting and sophisticated topics.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Well, I'd just reply with something like..

"If you are indeed that busy, then I'd not like to impose on your time more than I have already. You can keep the attention for the next performing monkey. Thank you very much."

or something as that.

I have no patience for women who act high and mighty. That answer should cut her ego down to size.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Firstly, stop listening so much to a "guru" that it pervades your thought process and actions to an extent that you cannot be arsed to even think for your own decisions and you have to rely on reading from a script in order to decipher what your next move should be. Gurus are good for a newbie who doesn't understand even the basics, after a while it is expected that you try things which fit in with your own person and use them with your "game". That's how we progress.

Secondly, it's natural for a woman to exhibit push/pull. So, instead of worrying about whether to say "Hi" or neg her, try to mirror her push/pull with your own push/pull depending on how the interaction is going, to maximize the effects in the whole lead/chase race, that is going on here.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "