MY FIRST OFFICIAL APPROACH (please critique)



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:09 pm 
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My First Approach as a Practicing PUA
I made the decision about three weeks ago to become a PUA. I started reading books by Mystery, Style, articles and videos by Lovedrop, Cajun, Gambit, and the list is long. But while I was acquiring all this info about sagging, I didn't really get a chance to put any of them into practice until now.
It was a Sunday afternoon when I and my cousin decided to later go to a club. I felt like that would be the perfect moment to put all what i had been reading over the holidays into practice. On my way to the club, I already had a routine in check. I knew what openers I was going to use, and I had negs, DHVs, and other routines waiting to be released. On my way to the club, I wasn't too nervous about sagging, but as soon as I got in line to enter the club, my nerves got the best of me. I was shaking, sweating, and my voice began to crack up. I was never going to practice any sarging in this condition. I knew I had to calm myself down before making any moves.
As I got into the club, I was still pretty nervous so I went straight to the bar area(which was completely empty) and sat down with my cousin. While I was sitting down, a couple of chicks came and stood about three feet from behind us. I thought of Mystery mentioning that when chicks stand that close to you, they are usually waiting to be approached; but I was too much of a chicken to make a move. I had just missed a perfect opportunity to practice sarging. After sometime, my nerves calmed down. So I decided to go into the core of the club; but when I went in, it was too loud for me to even hear my cousin speak to me. I had a lot of opportunities to sarge while i was in the core of the club. There was even a voluptuous black girl sitting behind me looking bored, but I was once again too much of a chicken to approach her; plus, the music around that area was extremely loud. I''m serious, it was extremely loud. Only people who go to predominantly African American clubs where hip hop is usually played can relate to the extreme loudness.
After around an hour of unsuccessfully trying to pick up courage, I went to go take a seat. While sitting down, I was just chatting with my cousin, and it was at that moment that I saw a beautiful white chick with big tits sitting around the empty bar area by herself. At that moment, I thought to myself, " she's by herself, she is sitting in the quieter side of the club, so I really should have no excuses not to talk t her". All of a sudden, I gathered up the courage to walk up to her and talk to her.
Me: hey, let me ask u a question.
HB: ok, sure
Me: me and my cousin were having an argument over something and i need u to help me on this; can u name the five oceans?
HB: What?

After saying that, she leaned into me and held onto my hand for a brief second, but i wasn't able to neg her about it, for i was still on the opener

Me: can u name the five oceans? THE FIVE OCEANS? He actually thinks there are six, but i'm trying to prove him wrong
HB: I don't really know
I was dumbfounded by her response. I mean, who is stupid enough not to know even one of the oceans?

Me: really? u don't even know one?
HB: who talks about the oceans in the club anyways?
Me: it was random

at this moment, i didn't know what to say next, so I threw in a neg

Me: u know, your nose wiggles when you talk
HB: really?
Me: yeah
HB: I never noticed

once again, I was running out of things to say so I decided to throw in the C vs Us routine

Me: I also noticed u have a U shaped smile
HB: what's that?
Me: Ok, let me explain

At this moment, I grabbed a seat and next to her. When I sat down, I leaned back, and she slightly leaned into me. I was surprised about how calm and collected I was, and what baffled me the most was when I realized how easy starting the conversation was. hopefully, it will be as easy to start other conversations.

Me: People with U shaped smiles usually…….
HB: So you're saying I'm unfriendly?
Me: Possibly, unless u can prove me wrong

once again, I was running out of things to say so i decided to play the 5 questions game.

Me: U know what? let's play a game
HB: What game?
Me: the 5 questions game
HB: I hate questions

In my mind, I was like "damn girl, stop giving me a hard time and let's play this game".

Me: Ok, I'm gonna ask you five questions and you….
HB: um ok

After about the third question, she interrupted me and asked me why she was doing this? I could tell she wasn't into the game, so I tried making a bet with her. at this moment, her hand was on her thigh, so i decided to neg her once again.

Me: wow girl, u owe me 7 bucks for every time you touch me, but i'll let u off the hook for now
HB: Omg, u're full of shit (in a playful way)

then her friends came along

Me: Introduce me for it's the polite thing for me to do

so she introduced me. after that, her friends forced her to go to the restroom, and I was too much of a chicken to Isolate her, so she went along with them. I thought of asking for her number, but I felt like she would say no because I hadn't really reached the comfort/rapport stage yet. I didn't think fast enough. for my first approach, ever, I feel like I did a pretty decent job, although I know I'm still very far from becoming more successful and consistent. after that approach, i felt like doing some more approaches, but my cousin was like "let's go, let's go. My back hurts". So we left. In a span of about 3 hours, i approached only one girl. Next time, I'll try to approach more, and i know I will. Sadly, I won't be able to approach any more women till when I move back into my college dorm next week. I can't wait. This semester is gonna be an adventure.

After approaching her, I was very happy with myself. The conversation lasted about 10 mins Honestly, I was surprised I was even able to talk to her for that longI began to analyze the conversation, and started thinking of ways to improve my game. Here are somethings I feel like I should have done during the convo:
I should've done the following:
1.given a time constraint at the beginning to make her more comfortable (although she seemed pretty comfortable around me from the beginning)
2.disqualified her to let her know that i wasn't interested in her
3.thrown about 2 more negs at her before releasing some more DHVs
4.Isolated her by saying something along these lines "before you go, I wanna show you something pretty cool. Girls, please allow me to borrow your friend for a sec. I promise I'll bring her back safely.
5.payed attention to kino escalation.
6.I really should've grown balls and isolated her. oh well, it's a learning process so no worries.
I can't think of anymore ways to improve. This is where you guys come in. PLEASE, DROP SOME COMMENTS ON WAYS I CAN IMPROVE MY GAME FOR THE NEXT TIME I SARGE.
CRITIQUE IS GREATLY WELCOMED
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:17 pm 
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Ok you are new but doing well. I say this because you did not freeze up and eject when she wouldn't comply with your routines. You plowed through and came up with new topics. As you become more experienced and comfortable you will be able to drop the routines and start natural conversations. People on here will tell you to go "Direct" which is awesome but not for newbies with crappy social skills. My advice is to practice with routines, don't let rejections discourage you and become socially good with women and strangers.

Also easy with the negs. It's a thin line between innocent neg and sounding like a retard. I suggest you don't use them until a little more experence is gained.


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Ok you are new but doing well. I say this because you did not freeze up and eject when she wouldn't comply with your routines. You plowed through and came up with new topics. As you become more experienced and comfortable you will be able to drop the routines and start natural conversations. People on here will tell you to go "Direct" which is awesome but not for newbies with crappy social skills. My advice is to practice with routines, don't let rejections discourage you and become socially good with women and strangers.

Also easy with the negs. It's a thin line between innocent neg and sounding like a retard. I suggest you don't use them until a little more experence is gained.
thanks man for the advice man. Don't worry, rejections don't bother me at all. I see this simply as a learning process.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:55 am 
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My first approach 8/16/11
Me: Can I get your guys opinion? Does this shirt make me look gay
HBs : No...
Me: Oh, well I need to get back to my friend bye (dashes away)
Your on the right track compared to me haha. Anyway, i'm impress by your willingness to not eject, its tough at times. You could use that opener a few more times, but its a little lame, its probably more of a day game opener, try a WHOLE lot more. I don't wanna say too much but just keep approaching. The MM is a little confusing at times, but just work at it. Good Luck

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