Being rich can be a bad thing, as it attracts materialistic girls and gold diggers.

Nope. It really is entirely to do with confidence. Money is one thing that can bring confidence, and money can also be a symptom of other aspects of life that bring confidence. For instance, if you are incredibly intelligent, driven, ambitious and have worked your way up to be one top of a big company, then you're going to be confident because of those skills and achievements. The money might not have anything to do with the confidence, but obviously you're going to be rich as well.

Or, you might THINK that girls are going to be interested in you because you've got money. Now, if you THINK that more girls will be interested in you because of your money, you're going to be confident, and as a result of that, more girls will be itnerested in you. That's not because of the money necessarily, it's because the money has helped you to become confident.

But money isn't the key there. If you've got something else that can make you be equally as confident, then you're good to go as well. For instance, if you're drop dead gorgeous, you think that girls are going to be more interested in you, so you're more confident, and that attracts women.

Think about it, you see some rich men who are useless with women, you see some fairly good looking men who are useless with women. So obviously it's not the looks or the money that are doing it for the successful ones. It's the fact that they get some good confidence and inner belief in their own worth from the assets they've got.

And that's the crux of all this - working your own assets, and highlighting your own assets, to become the best you can be. You can't do anything about your looks, you can't really do much about your salary (obviously get a new job, but it's not always that easy!), but what else have you got to offer?

Figure that out, become comfortable in your skin, and bingo. The confidence and inner belief and security you've got will shine through for women to see, and it won't matter that you're not as rich as someone else.

again, wishful thinking guys.

Women go for money. Some are simply gold diggers, but for most it;s as natural as going for a tall guy or a handsome guy. It's evolutionary value shes after.

Yes plenty of rich guys cant meet women, but as long as they are reasonably talkative, and have a decent personality, they will be with women all the time.

u guys make it sound like one is either or the other. That either u have game, or you dont or u dont have looks or money, or you either have money and looks but no game.

Most people fall in the middle. So if u fall in the middle but you are a millionaire, u will score more chicks than just somebody in the middle.

Only a small percentage of guys read PUA material, its not the only way people hook up, but guys think either men are PUAs or they are frustrated chumps. but nothing else.

Lol!

If a rich guy has no game or weak game, he becomes a provider for the hot girl you are fucking while thinking whether you can afford a meal in a canteen when you're done with her. Been there.

Good points here. I agree with the fact it doesn't make or break your game.

The only thing I like to add is that wealthy, successful people hang out with other of the same status. The lifestyle allows the person to meet more attractive(looks, smarts, status) people compared to average guy that is picking up girls at a regular club.

I am not saying rich women are better then average women, I am stating that in my experience, chances are that rich men meet alot more solid 10s then average people do due to the scene they are tied to. (Many exceptions)

Oh yeah? Go screw Bill Gates wife. Now I dont know what she looks like, or if anyone would even want to, but Bill Gates is a computer nerd, but he's a billionaire, if u think he couldnt get a supermodel to marry him and be faithful, u are out of your mind,

He probably doesnt want that, but it wouldnt surprise me if he was getting laid every day by a different hot woman. He probably doesnt, but it wouldnt surprise me.

Maybe some women do. So let's say a rich man could get the same amount of girls as a poor man (with similar qualities), plus let's say 10% extra women who are golddiggers. But does it help if you mainly want to get laid and move on? I think the golddiggers would prefer a LTR to benefit from the money long term. For just dating and sex I don't think money makes a difference.

You seriously need to stop listening to what society tells you. According to society and your line of thinking I should have a line of girls wanting to date me due to my height alone. Yet I see no line of girls, nor do I see any girl approaching me. Money can be a factor, but it doesn't hold the amount of power as you think it does.

Im arguing with a woman now? LOL should I take away accountability and reason?

well Nadine, even you dont understand yourself, imagine how us men feel.

These triggers for somebody rich dont have any rhyme or reason to them. For example, women like tall men, and the reason is that a tall man is considered a good protector, and that will keep her and her children safe"

Now, we can argue, why would she be thinking about kids, they are just talking at the bar, but thats where the triggers dont make alot of sense. Somehow in her wiring, she is always thinking about mating and producing kids, so she is always filtering potential mates, even if she currently thinks shes just having a drink at the bar.

its all subliminal and unconcious.

but nice to meet you, u must be REAL hot hanging around here... j/k

hang out with us hairy legged men, u might learn something

Yea i think not. just theres a guy anhs money, doesnt mean a girl oudnt want a guy with all the qualties listed above. i doubt a girl would fall head over heels, for a rich old 50 something year old :/

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The women I slept with who had provider boyfriends had no to little respect for them.

Money can buy you sex (but there are other discussion boards for such a purpose), but can't buy you respect and love. Your personality can.

By the way I checked his wife and although I wouldn't hit it, she probably was hot in her 20's-30's.

Rich guy with charisma = WINNER
poor guy with charisma = winner
rich guy without charisma = loser (can buy sex)
poor guy without charisma = LOSER

Hope this really really simplified chart helps.

well as i have said many times before most guys and most people fall in the middle of the pack.

average looking, average wealth, average height, average personality, average sense of humour, average game

now if u are really tall u have a slight advantage of those who are average accross the board. but it's not the be all and end all. if u look like lurch from the adams family while being tall, and u are boring, your advantage goes out the window.

u need to be acceptable on all levels, but having one stand out trait can be an deal breaker.

Okay, guys.. this is a post I made on another forum, but it is very relevant to the conversation. It is a real world example of good game trumping wealth:

http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.php? ... -situation

Short version: I am in an open relationship and another guy, my girlfriend's secondary, has been actively using his large amount of wealth to get my girlfriend to quit her job and leave the area with him (either to LA or France). He offered to pay all of her expenses. She turned him down because she's crazy about me. Click the link for the full story.

-Wolf

but u cant find charisma out of thin air. its one of those illusive qualities like a sense of humour. cant be learned or bought

I beg to differ. Can be learned.