So recently i've been doing a lot of online game. I think i've improved alot thanks to you guys on the forum. I'm still nowhere near to good but I've been messaging on pof with this hb 7/10. It's been like couple of weeks and i finally started sexual escalation last night and her responses were escalating and suxual.

My last message was something about me cumming on her face but she didn't reply. I guess it's because it was too late and she went to bed or fingering herself i don't care.

My question what's best to do now. Should I try and get her number and then arrange a date or just arrange a date on POF ?

And if you can give me some hints asking her out, how to set a date. I reckong asking for the number goes without saying..

Getting the number is pretty easy.

"We should meet up sometime/Let's keep in touch, what's your number". very straight forward. you're telling her to give you her number, not asking for her number.

Instead of ASKING her out, you OFFER her out. major difference between the two. you making her an offer to go somewhere shows that you are the one in charge and you have the upper hand. whereas if you ask her, then she's the one in charge and makes the decisions.

You can say something like "Let's meet up for a drink sometime. How about me meet at LOCATION at TIME on DAY." this sounds more dominant, and commanding. can you see that in this phrase you dont wait for her to agree yet, but you assume that she likes you and definitely going to meet up which is better than being unsure and completely reliant on her call. this is basically the same as a business proposition. you make it look good, irresistible, and as they say in the godfather "i'll make you an offer you can't refuse" lol.

Yup. Everything said is true.

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ok so i'm this situation now:

me:" let's meet up for drinks sometime. how about meet me at (bar name) at 18:30 on wednesday."

her:"Sometime xxx wednesday is a no no for me xx sorry have a match!

And 18:30 some of us don't finish work till late xxx

Def should though

I was thinking Sunday but then i decided to say Wednesday cause i don't want to lose attraction. That doesn't matter. Now I'm facing two possibilities again:
#1 Exchange numbers and continue gaming/escalating(as far as i can) and then invite her again possibly in a couple of days.
#2 Just keep it on POF and invite her again after a few days.

Another question tho. I'm sure i built enough attraction in my messages. for the last say 10 of them it was purely sexual convo but 1# should i keep the spark lighten and continue with those 2#or keep it casual with 3#or don't text/message her at all?

you should definitely go for the number close soon. you have been messaging her few weeks which seems a really long time.

from my experience i know when i have absolute attraction with a girl, there's no such thing as enough, it's an all or nothing concept. because when im dominant and offered a time and date, if she said that she couldnt do that day, she would immediately suggest another date thats good for her which shows that she is attracted to me and wants to meet up. but maybe you havent built enough attraction. or maybe you have but you can go to plan B and ask when is it good for her to meet up. i dont like asking this question (even though i personally never asked it) because it sounds needy but it should be the last resort.

keep it going, get the number and try again to arrange a date.

why even go on a "date"?

you guys are talking about fucking and you cumming on her face.

a date would be backward progress.

just go to her place and f-close her, no?

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what dr. house brings to medicine, i bring to everyday life (an extreme dose of cynicism), don't listen to the curmudgeon!

i'm really inexperienced but i dont care. I know asking for a date sounds incongurent but i was thinking of just build some comfort cause i've not spoken to her then escalate and just tell here 'so we're going to ur place?'. She have already qualified to me about ownig a house bla bla. The first time when i've suggeste we should do it at hers she flaked so that's why i'm not so direct this time i guess . It didn't make sense cause she was talking about sharing her bed with me an stuff but when i brough up me going to hers - flake. Now it's differen but i can't be sure... Now I've asked for her #, let's hope she bites. You guys have any suggestions?

Future reference:

Secure the number as soon as possible when dealing with online dating. ( its almost like isolating in a club) By getting her digits and immediately messaging her, you went from some guy online, into someone on her ( personal) phone. A lot of people will be online because they can pretend to be other people, they can be who-ever they want, but once you are on her phone, it gives her a different sense of you plus you are setting yourself apart from the rest of the guys that are messaging her.

There is also the the thought process that comes with online dating. You want to be seen on POF as little as possible. So even if you are online just to talk to her, you are still online on a dating site.

It is very important that once you establish a rapport with a women and signs of interest are there, that you get off the site as soon as possible. The sooner you can get her out of the fantasy world ( online dating) and into the real world, the better your effort will be received.

You will have set yourself apart from the rest, and at the same time showing her your interest. ( setting her apart from the rest)

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

Ok guys hot update. I just got back from the gym and saw her response to my # request. I said :''We should exchange numbers. Here's mine. Shoot me urs. She simply repplied:''bored?'' unfortnately it was 5 hours ago. So i'm gonna write to her tmw saying that i couldn't reply. Btw my regards to sexaddict, but u guys all helped me a lot thanks!

If you haven't replied yet to her "bored" comment. I have a suggestion for a response.

here it is : No I am not bored at all, I just thought I would show you some respect by offering you my phone number in hopes that we can make this a little more personal.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.