hi pua community
can u tell me what can i do in a situation like this and whether this girl is interested lmao i dont wnana mess things up! so lets call this girl X
i met her in a club and yea number closed dance for a bit held her hand a bit of kino here and there and she told me to call her and well i didnt(mistake #1 i know lol) but we have been texting back and forth which im glad keeping the 1:1 ratio so yay lol
and i've asked her out for coffee and this is the specific text thanks mates
Me: All caught up with your beauty sleep now? hahaha. My school started a bit late so yea thats whyy.

X: Yes i did i ndeed but im still absoutely wrecked. Lol im sodrowsy form my med as well lol so ur gonna be here for Chinese new year?

Me: feel better then!:) ill tell u what, when u get better lets go out for coffee!...its gonna be a riot and nah im not here for cny unfortunatelyy

X: Oh so ur leaving soon so. Yea sure But if im out my canadian frd will b there lol. Shes not leaving till 23rd. ( Her canadian friend is staying here cause she came to visit)

Me: Thats a 2 for 1 special and as awesome as that sounds lmao, i actually wanna get to know u like alone so hmm let me think how thats gonna work loll.

X: hahaha u could think of way to sort it out. Dats ur job lol otherwise u could wait till nxt time ur bk lol what u up to?

Me: ooo playing mind games with me now eh hahaha ill figure something out! i wa sjust out with my fam chilin and stuff..

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thanks mates please help me on what to do next and if im going in the right direction would love to improve my text game thanks once again

your text game is ok, not great but I didn't see any major mistakes other then too much supplication with the emotes and LOls, I advise you cut that shit down a lot.

Chances are shes probably;y not interested given her equivocation, but you were right about the "no Friends rule." If she wont come out with you alone then forget her.

Wow I feel like such a broken record here...

Why are you texting her essays, have you lost your voice?

Unless you grow some balls and pick up the phone and have a real conversation with her, every text you send from here on out reduces the chance of this turning into a sexual relationship.

Texting is not for escalation it's only purpose is to re-establish a line of communication if calling is not an option.

Once that line of communication has been re-established you should be aiming to reduce the degrees of alienation between the two of you as smoothly as possible.

I.e.

-Words on a screen. (lame)
vs.
-A human voice on the phone. (cool)
vs.
-A real life interactive experience. (This is where the sex happens)

Even if she was desperate enough to meet up with a guy who didn't even call her the chances are the interaction would be awkward and distant because it is a rough transition from a non-personal to an interpersonal encounter.

Text game does not exist. Texting is not good game, full stop.

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Text her with a plan, don't get into a whole drawn out convo.

Keep things short and light, keep her guessing be all mysterious and shit. Tell her you've got an idea that'll blow her mind and that you'll meet up with her later in the week to show her.

this is gold, I like using nested loops, open ended questions, and mystery via text. Girls eat this shit up. Create intrigue, establish credibility. Outside of this, don't do much in text, too much trivial minutia will fuck things up (supplication/approval seeking/ comfort & Rapport prior to attraction).

GOLD JERRY, GOLD!!


Girls fucking LOVE my texts, in fact the last girl I was messing around with would always say "You send me the most random stuff, always makes me crack up I LOVE IT!" You can gain some mileage by sending creative texts. The key for me? Having a chill, almost I-dont-give-a-fuck mindset. I mean I do sometimes give a fuck, but I know that when I'm completely at ease my mind percolates with awesome text material that'll catch her off guard and is almost always guaranteed a response.

I spent years observing a friend of mine who's probably got bigger game than Mystery and all the PUA's on this site combined (dude perplexed me as he's an average looking guy, albiet of considerable wealth but never paraded it around yet was able to score dozens of chickens any time, any place - shit was bananas). He could never explain the in's and out's of his approach, it seemed more intuitive to him, and this is probably why he's also such an amazingly successful business man - he can SELL, and make it seem as though the other person is making the choice on their own.

He did always tell me, however, that "bitches love enthusiasm!" If you can engage a chick, be spontaneous and show her a good time she'll go along for the ride (this all fits under the DHV umbrella of course). He also told me never to text a chick unless you have a PLAN. In other words don't get into stupid, long drawn out conversations - the objective, rather, is to get her out.

The way he'd always speak to a girl was with one of extreme familiarity; he was so disarming I dont think I've ever seen a girl reject him (although I'm sure it happened, though I wouldn't hear about it). His text game was quick, to the point and offered the girl a lot of mystery and intrigue, and often infused some type of humor.

I like to often start my texts off as though they were mid-sentence of part way through a conversation as it assumes rapport, and just looks totally random and spontaneous. Don't text a girl "Hey, how are you?" that's so lame and boring. Tell her how some randomass funny thing happened that reminded you of her, or something the two of you did.

I do a lot of all the wall stuff if I feel my rapport is strong enough with her. The crazier the better.

But on serious note... nobody should listen to papichulo818 EVER. Just had a read through his posts the dude is either a troll or a total creep. If anything I would do the complete opposite of whatever he suggests, starting with not sending girls you barely know disgusting and vulgar text messages in a very misguided attempt to make them like you.

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Papi has way more game then your ever going to have, stop trolling

The point of "vulgar" texts is to demonstrate that you don't really give a fuck. What I said was a bit over-the-top hence my deleting it because it wasn't intended to be a literal example but I figured some of the AFC cats on here would take it literally, and that'd be irresponsible on my part.

Ya, i did say that. Ya, I did delete it from my original comment. Ya, I did neg rep you. Ya, I don't really care.

Have a nice day:)

hey peeps i appreciate all the responses so quickly i honestly do

imma call her tmr and set something up and if it doesnt workout then yea boohoo lol
coffee is casual enuf yea, are there any other casual ideas for a meet up?
any ideas are welcomed thanks guys uve been all very helpful

thanks!
jasper

Have you taken her out yet? Do you already have rapport with her? If so, take her somewhere fun instead.

If you don't have a strong rapport with her, take her to coffee by all means and make it as though you're qualifying her to see if she's good enough for you (this should always be your mindset in the beginning as it implies you're a high status male, and not weak like every other guy handing her an application to be her boyfriend and kissing her ass to 'get the job').

Also, why are you calling her tomorrow. why not today? Are you hesitating? The 'tomorrow I'll do it' mentality will likely generate more anxiety for you and she'll smell your fear from a mile away.

thanks dude im not callin right now cause its 1 at night and that would just be weird..any tips on the coffee date? i appreciate your help i really do trying to learn the whole day 2 thing tips for qualitification would be appreiciated too man
thanks!
jasper

I have gotten chicks back and gotten laid using the "vulgar" texts Papi uses here in a fitting example. His example text would work for him, or for me as its consistent with our game, but likely not you in its most direct form. His point is 100% valid, this is the correct direction you need to frame you interactions.

Cuz PUA's positively, absolutely, DON'T give a fuck (even when they really do).

As for qualification, its a good idea. Once you ask a qualification question off your routine stack take a suspicious/accusatory/emotional/suspect/overreacting/intensely interested/disbelieving frame relative to some of her answers. This will help her to view you as the prize.

Just don't be rude, or insulting. Remember, you want to share a laugh, not put anyone down or make a joke at anyone's expense which are sure fire ways of losing a girl. Some girls can take harsh sarcasm and will roll with it throwing shit back at you - it's a lot of fun and ramps up sexual tension. Other girls are more conservative and may find vulgarities to be both insulting and offensive. Know your audience.

Detox, no-one who has ever met me would ever imply that I have bad game or a poor understanding of seduction. I have been coaching game since before you had even heard of it and every student I have had has become nothing less than an absolute rockstar at seducing beautiful women.

I give my advice for free now and I really don't have to, so you implying that I am 'trolling' is rediculous and now you are wasting my time again because I need to set the record straight again.

You seem like a clever enough guy but you are totally missing the point, as good as you think your game might be, it could be better and I am telling you how to make it better. You are not an expert, I am. So stop trying be a nuisance and you might learn something.

Think I am wrong? Find any real life girl out there who would look at this exchange and find you and papichulo to be more attractive options.

Oh and by the way, are you and papi the same person? Seems pretty suspicious you joined at the same time and post at the same time and always back each other up... How curious.

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