My 10 can be an 8 for you. Why the hell are you on this forum man? Get out of here..we don't need old guys who are frustrated chumps who come here and troll everything they see. Happy new year man Valentyn's out..you should seriously fuck off of this forum. This knowledge is too much for you!

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Here's another guy that has some intellignece imbeded in his brain. Great post man!

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I agree, but will any pua material make a woman like u long term? money will as long as it lasts...lol but thats fake too. but so is the bullshit DMH stories. i mean how do u tell a fuckin DMH story when u havent even had a date before?

Would Donald trumps young wife will leave him if he went broke? probably, but if Donald trump walked into a club, your fuckin four foot hat aint gonna do a damn thing lollllllllllllllllllllllllll

its evolution, women will go for the money in most cases.

I agree with PUA stuff as being an exaggerated ice breaker. beyond that u got to be able to talk to her and keep her interested in you. so u are still back to square one.

at least if u a successful in some area in life, u have that experience to work from.

This is ridiculous I can't hold my self to reply to you because you say so many stupid things. First of all it's DHV stories and you dont need to go on a date to imbed DHV spikes in your story man! You don't even know material and you judge material. Evolution is not based on money. Are you really serious??!!! Evolution is based on survival and replication. Your only goal on earth is to survive and replicate. That's it. Women who go out with you for money will likely cheat on you and dont give a shit about you. At the beginning of mankind money didnt even existed. Money is not evolution. I think maybe your age is your problem. Too bad your too old little guy..I'm 19 A life full of women awaits in front of me This is the last time I post here that's it. Man I would love to go out with you I would kick your ass in a pick up contest so badly. Peace out!!!

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Donald Trump is famous. The girls who likes him is not because of his money, its because of his personality, they have seen so many videos about him, and they notice something.. His personality, and not money. If you think a girl would leave you because you becoming brook, then shes a whore.

Take a look at Mike The Situation from Jersey shore, hes a douche bag. Every women would like to sleep with him because hes famous, but inside hes a truly AFC loser. He don't need to say more than hi to get them wants to sleep with him. They do this in front of the camera so they can feel like they're total cool because they did it. And in my opinion a girl is a whore if she wanna sleep with that man.

I do agree with you that women do like a guy who has money, but they also think on his career, and how he earned all that much money. I can tell you that in high school this girl had sex with 5 of my friends at a party. Next day I asked her what she wants to be when she grow up because we had about the subject. She told me "I don't know, I just want to find a rich man"

PUA material will give you some tips and hints to start off with. After you have learned these stuff you will be more insecure about your self, and know what your doing. Of course you have to be a good looking guy if you want to hit on a good looking girl.

I would advice you to read "The Game"
$20 worth it for all that knowledge you will get.

Happy New Year.

What Im saying is if your telling DHV stories, and they are not true, why are u telling them. This guy was talking about a woman staying in the long run, well when u start out on a lie, there's no going back.

Yes money has plenty to do with evolution. A man who has resources, can better provide for a woman's offspring. at least in her evolutionary mind, a rich man is a better provider than a average man of wealth. No money didnt exist but resources did. And If a guy was tall...he could protect her and her children, if he was powerful/rich, he could provide better.

and a good looking man/healthy man, can ensure that her offspring is vitale and healthy.

its all about what makes the species better in the future. In evolutionary terms

Stop acting like you know everything, you a very young 19, u cant learn if u know everything.

Ive read it all dude. The Game, Rules of The Game, The Art of The Pickup", Mystery Method, the whole shebang.

They make money, every guy wants to know how to meet women.

They like Donald Trump because he;s a billionaire lol. Plain and simple. They can go to the mall in a private jet, and theiur kids to go to Harvard or Princeton, and become World renowned Doctors and Lawyers.

Mpost women cant stand his personality, He's arrogant, hes pompous, he's hes the condescending, he's rude, in many ways he;s the typical American Male who got rich lollll

Ill agree he has confidence, anybody would acheiving what he did. But his hairpeice aint helpin either.

I remember Conan Obrien asking him one time "does it bother u that some women might be interested in you cause of your money? he said "i ve been asked this before, and it doesnt really matter, does it. ?

So even he knows no 25 brazilian model is going to want him if hes not a famous billionaire.

Mike The Situation, you are right, its cause of his fame. Although by now he's also very rich. They want to be asscoated with ths show. "hey I did The situation"

but that makers her value go up if she can say that. ( i think it goes down, but many might say it goes up"

But the reasons Trump and Situation get women, are no more lame or suprficial than going to a club with a peacocking item on, asking some group of strangers their opinions on some random topic, or tellin a story of DHV.

The attraction is all based on bullshit. Your not a better person because u can tell a good dhv story, the only reason u are telling it is to get laid.

So your telling me that you go parties to only to get laid? I don't think you have understood the point of being a pick up artist. These PUA's are having fun while they're trying to hit on girls, they want to be the most social guy in the club. They do pick up girls thats right. But they don't have the attitude, "today I need to get laid".

As I remember Donold, then hes an old man isn't he? And Mike is a truly AFC with no skill to the game related. He only get chicks because hes famous.

If you try to go out and focus on making friends you will get laid in no matter of time if you have some PUA material in you. If you think all this PUA stuff are bullshit, what are better for you then? I as myself don't comes with these openers. But I don't think that they're bad.

I'm not even that good to chicks, I'm just not shy, girls comes to me because I'm a gentleman, and care about my lifestyle. I do workout and have a nice body. People often comes to me to be my friend. And girls often comes to. But the girls who is coming aren't real. Because they are all needy.. But since I'm a player, I don't care really much. But I think your attitude at parties aren't good if your hoping on getting laid all the time.

Donalds in his 60s but his wife is thirty something. I wouldnt mind having his wife when im 65

Anyway, guys dont get PUA material and get on boards, to become better people. They come to pick up women. there are many other types of programs to make somebody a more social person.

this is specially designed to get women, and screw them.

Not thats thats a bad thing, but it doesnt work for alot of people. Not any more than asking 100 women to sleep with u and getting 1 to agree

I think a big problem for most beginners is they learn too much before they can even approach looking for the magic anti rejection system and then they get frustrated with the 0-2 drunk approahes that didnt go very far..

Some pua material will not suit if your a beginner then basic interaction skills,cocky funny and closes will probably suit then as you get a few lays learning more badboy caveman game pays off as you get a bit cocky with your game..then as you get older you get value out of more seductive style game and lifestyle,lounge bars, salsa dance social circle,language meetup groups etc..

You can compete with the rich tall guys if they have no game they will just look on with an awkward smile..

Well at least you are aware you are beginner and you know not to expect too much yet.

im still learning forsure but it depends on what you call a beginner I can pickup so that what i was looking for out of learning game and ive met some of my best mates in the community, if your expecting more than women out of the material then you might have to change your expectations to make life winnable..it will not make you donald trump.

the best investment i found was not in the $$$ courses but find some local dude who charges $40 or so for an hour infeild..youll get heaps out of it for the price..

goodluck with it mate

I'm in the Priva Membership Zone...if I seriously see you put another topic like this I'm going to talk with some moderators I know to get you banned. Are you seriously around 50 years old?? You're a joke man..I have no respect for you. At 50 years old you spend your time bullshitting on a forum who tries to help guys become a better version of themselves and finding someone nice to go out with. Hahahah wtff..I cant imagine an old man spending all his day and replying to people with the same stupid arguments. Because of your own failure you want to bring other people down. Fine man..don't sign for a forum to try to help people if that's not what you're into. Go find yourself a women in your life at your age you're supposed to have one. This is really funny if you actually don't have a girlfriend haha I would understand perfectly your situation of hatin

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I think the harsh truth is our virgin friend has a deep fear of not being enough if you look at his arguements..

Id also say he has negative beliefs and a fear of women at some level and thinks its a serious game where his fragile ego is on the line...
40year virgin
Learn to love women but a woman cant love you if you dont love yourself first you will only attract what you believe is possible and gold diggers is all youll see.

Give up the emotional hostage taking and face your fears like a man as a man that can handle it..can you handle a no to find the one your looking for, if not this game and this journey of personal growth is not for you, you have to earn the right to success in most feilds..

Lastly dont think about it just do it...takes seconds to get a yes,no or meet some new people but its draining to play the victim all the time..theres heaps of older pua guys out there i first learnt off a guy who was 40+ and he was wow good with all ages of women or learn from someone like davidX hes pretty ugly.no excuses.

as said all the best with it mate really hope you get overyourself and out of the way of your own success.your choice..

Being a PUA is more than using scripted lines. Inner game is a major part. If you are full of confidence, you will radiate this. Having a strong personality and acting on the critical counter-intuitive lets people see you for who you are.