wtf are you all retarded? how do none of you see what happened here?

Her: i meant that in general haha....like being forward....saying if we hungout some time
jokingly

she tries to be forward and flirtatious with the swim shorts comment. you seem not to get it and she feels silly, so she says "i meant we should meet up sometime" BIG IOI AND SUGGESTION YOU GUYS MEET UP, "jokingly" BECAUSE SHE FEELS SELF-CONSCIOUS ABOUT SUGGESTING A MEETUP and says she was "joking" so that she can have an out in case she looks too forward or desperate. girls come onto guys rarely for precisely this reason. because guys are retards who can't grasp cues of interest, and every girl has been socially trained not to come across as needy.

so basically, if you said right now "that's an interesting proposition... normally i don't meet strangers, but you're cute enough that i might break my rule. what part of town are you in?" she'd be totally in like flynn and sex and sandwiches forever.

but instead...

Me: ha I see
well tell me a couple qualities you possess that would make me want to get to know you better

ok, i see where you're going here. you're trying to be pickup-y and not show interest. it's stupid, because she's already there and you would have a lot easier time just being normal and meeting her attraction, but it's not necessarily BAD to qualify. it's just a waste of time and will reinforce an unequal dynamic of feeling being inferior to you. which isn't necessary to actually meet up with her, since she's already attracted to you. it's just going to make her feel self-conscious. but if you get off on that shit, sure, go ahead and qualify.

so that in and of itself is not necessarily disastrous. it's not optimal but it won't hurt you.

but then

Her: haha i had a long day....i dont know if i can handle an interview
sorry for bothering you though

translation from girlspeak: OH MAN I CAME ON TOO HARD HE THINKS I'M WEIRD HE'S ASKING WHY HE'D WANT TO HANG OUT WITH ME HE MUST THINK I'M A WEIRDO HE DOESN'T LIKE ME, EJECT EJECT, ETC.

seriously?? how do you not see this?!? key line "SORRY FOR BOTHERING YOU" = what you said MAKES IT SEEM LIKE YOU THINK I'M BOTHERING YOU.

now the funny thing is that her saying this creates an emotional spike of rejection that if you turned it around would make her feel more attached/comfortable/attracted to you. so if from here you said:

"whoa hey, i didn't mean that in a mean way haha. i just wanted to know more about you, since you intrigue me. but if you're too tired to chat its nw "

she would completely turn around and you'd have a great conversation and she would remember in her mind forever how it felt like you emotionally bitchslapped her and then kissed her emotional blackeye. it doesn't make a ton of sense, but this will definitely make a woman more attached to you, even if it was all in her head and all came out of miscommunication.

but instead of pulling her back to you, you go "oh shit i'm a pickup artist, i need to pull away first like mysteryyyyy"

Me: interview? ha alright
take care

and if now she won't talk to you anymore it's because she thinks you're either a dick or an idiot. or both.

moral of the story: fucking listen to women.

shame on you.

ok, i see where you're going here. you're trying to be pickup-y and not show interest. it's stupid, because she's already there and you would have a lot easier time just being normal and meeting her attraction, but it's not necessarily BAD to qualify. it's just a waste of time

What forum do you think your on Einstein? You meet interest by reciprocating with more interest and supplicating? Nice move new guy

moral of the story: fucking listen to women.

LoL how is that working out for you? Let me answer for you, it isn't

shame on you.

No Ma'am, shame on you. Welcome to your first post on the forum. Please re-log when you know wtf you are talking about. He was trying to get help instead you gave him horrible advice and trolled a formerly worthwhile post.

Showing interest isn't supplication. If you seriously think that is supplication, you need to re-evaluate your own masculinity. I'm going to presume that instead (since I don't know you, and am going to take the liberty of presuming you're an alright guy), what you are referring to is that you think that somehow telling a girl you think she's cute once she shows you interest is a form of supplication. Or that if you hurt a girl's feelings, saying that you didn't mean to hurt her feelings and pulling her back into normal conversation is supplication. I can assure you neither of those things are the case. And yes, there are ways to get women other than constantly doing takeaways. Takeaways are important for attraction. This girl is clearly already attracted to OP. What he needs to do is escalate. And dismissive qualification does not do that.

And there's a big difference between being good at pickup and doing pickup-y shit.
Haha. Seriously?