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Nothing wrong with being confidant pal but rating yourself as a 9.5 and being virgin at 28 does not happen unless you have lived your entire life in isolation, if u really was a 9.5 you would have got lucky at least once by now.
I suggest u re-think the way u see yourself as it could b having a huge effect on how women are seeing you.

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Hey Guys,
Probably I am not 9.5 . I don't know and don't care anymore.It doesn't matter. I am virgin and that sucks.I am trying to be positive about my self.
I just came home from sarging. Finally the good news is I kissed a 8 HB in bar.Although it was not my first kiss but it was my fastest kiss ever(and it was after a long time).The whole conversation didn't take more than 5 min. I just turned the whole conversation in to sexual subjects and it kinda work for me.(although she was nervous).Since she was with here friends and they wanted to leave,she left me. I could have lost it to her, But didn't.Still Virgin!
I feel better though.
Guys, have questions:
1-Do you think wearing sport coat and jeans is a good idea for sarging. I was thinking of doing that. But I though it may seem I am trying too hard to impress. Any thought?
2-Almost all the girls I met are in 2 set or more. I am sarging alone.Is there anything I can do at least about girls in a 2 set. It's f***ing hard.

Any help about my situation still appreciated!
Thanks,

You should wear work boots and coveralls. Make it look like you just came in from welding for 12 hrs

lol tx.

The welding comment made me laugh.

Yeah, dress up a little. You can always say that you were dressing up for something else, or that you always dress up this way (even better). Might as well look good.

Hey guys,
I dressed a little bit formally and the result was way better last night. Approached 19 sets and 1 rejection(It was a drunk set lol). bounced by a 8 hb to other part of a bar (for the first time) was my biggest success last night.I didn't do pretty well with her, although she was in to me. I think I said sth that turned her off.(probably my sticky point)
Also,I had a crash on an Italian 9 hb I met last night. she had strong eye contact with me during the whole conversation . The down side was that her BF was there and I was completely distracted by that. I feel uncomfortable when girls are with guys. I left her...
What I learned from last night was that some small changes could make big difference in the game.

More importantly, isn't it fun?

Being successful feels good...

First of all: do you say to yourself in the mirror every morning: i'm sexy and i know it? Just curious

Second: you said you cried because. of some failures. You know why? Because the rejections you had made u remind of emotional pain. Forget that pain! Turn rejection into the pleasure that you learned another lesson and that you are progessing in becoming a PUA.

Third: you want to get laid. Make that ur goal, and be convinced of yourself that whatever happens, yoy will reach that goal, the easy or the hard way, no matter what! Because if you have that conviction, you will act on autopilot to reach that goal!

Fourth: you are doing a great job because you keep approaching and don't give up! Have you ever rewarded yourself for the fact that you keep going through no matter what?

Fifth: don't forget your rubbers

Final thing: when you are going to have sex, stay cool, do your thing, everyone does it and bang her to heaven man! Good luck and have fun:)

lol not like that.

Thanks for your comments and supports Wall and Slide.
actually, there is a video clip from Dj Fuji at The 21 Convention 2009. It helps me to keep myself motivated and even become more aggressive to reach my goal.
Honestly, (as also he mentioned in the clip) I am in painful period.For example it's really painful for me to watch hbs make out with guys and heading home and I am trying really hard and heading home alone... lol.It's become a challenge for me in my life.
My biggest reward for me is looking back at my past and see my progress and thinking of actions that I am doing now that I was not able to do 3 months ago .However until I reach my goal(getting laid with a girl I like), it's gonna be painful. Since there is no "real" reward until that time for me.

gio_gin i have to say i can see a lot of myself in you. I'm a good looking guy, maybe 9 i guess. I was a virgin until 22yo when i met my first girlfriend.
I was very picky and I had many opportunities with 9s and 10s before but i always messed them up being too shy or something. My confidence was pretty much zero and I never approached any girls until like 22yo or something.

I dated my first girlfriend for 5 years and after that my game was still pretty bad, i didn't really have the balls to approach girls. I started sarging late 2009 and the first time i got laid was christmas 2010. In early 2011 i still didn't approach girls a lot but i learned how not to fuck up the opportunities when the girls approach me, so i got laid more, even had 3 girls in 3 weeks, that was unheard for me. I went out pretty much every weekend in 2011 and at the end of the year i started to approach more myself and i just skyrocketed, lately it's been on average 1 girl per week. I would say the girls have been one 6 (i was drunk, and i regretted it afterwards), two 7s, a lot of 8's, a few 9's and one 10.

It might take some time to get your game good, (it took me over a year to get laid). But if you have good looks i'm sure you can improve your game. Just practise practise and practise. At the beginning i worried, what am i going to say to the girls when i approach them. I thought about good openers and just got confused. For a good looking guy, the best opener is simply, hi, who is it going? or hi, what's your name? Don't run those opinion openers, they don't work so good. As you said the girls will "smell" if you are using some material. Try not to think about the pua stuff too much, it will just get you confused.

Maybe the best advice i could give for a good looking guy is to open "warm" sets. I mean the girls who give IOI's to you, like look at you for more than 2 seconds, touch their hair, smile at you, bump on to you "accidentally" and so on. Try to look in the girls' eyes longer than they do, it will show them you have confidence.
I really had a trouble with that before but now it's pretty much gone. Also my AA was very bad but now it's mostly gone.

There's a really good book about the IOI's, it's called "Underground Sex Signals".
It's the best book you can read if you're a guy who gets a lot of IOI's but doesn't know how to read them or doesn't notice all of them.

Try not to be too needy with the girls, and don't try to please them. You are a hot guy, you don't have to please girls. That's how you should think. Don't talk too fast and don't talk too much, try to make the girls talk more than you.
Also one of the thing that helped me a lot, i started to buy trendy clothes. Good grooming helps a LOT.
With good looks and practise I just KNOW you will succeed sooner than you think. And with some time you will skyrocket.

Casco: thanks man for your help. I like your helps since they seem genuine and I've done some of them already.Generally, my problem is my social skill around girls. By being virgin , it's getting worst. I feel I show strong desire when I am supposed to have normal interaction with girls ( I am not talking about bars.) Seem to be needy ( since I am so needy right now) and just think of doing her.
Although I am not a "nice" guy but when it comes to meet a stranger HB I am nice and still can't help it. I just forget I have to neg her and I have to push and pull or tell her some sexual contents... etc. (although I did sometimes)
Also, I've never had a real massage from a girl.I think it should be in my list.Generally I am not comfortable with the whole sexual situation. I have to confess in back of my head I still feel bad about sex.(it could be because of my experience about sex and not having it). I feel kinda angry about being virgin.
Guys, wondering what is your feeling when you wanna go for sarging. I feel like I am going to a war and i get ready for a fight. lol
I went to a nude bar(getting in for free ) to see some pssy and @ss to get more used to it.It was a funny and boring experience.I am trying to have more sexual experiences. If you have some good ideas please let me know.
Thanks,

Mate you are a 9.5 and have girls staring at you and complimenting you profusely. You can have any girl you want, you need no help at all. Advice: go up to the next girl who stares at you, ask her some trivial bullshit about how her day is and what she's into, and then tell her you want to have sex with her. Bingo! Then do this to every other girl in the world (except my oneitis) and devote your life to enjoying the heaven on earth that is being a sexy guy.

Actually, that's a good idea and I did that one time in a wrong time(it's a long story) I think it best works when the HB is alone and a little drunk and it rarely happens for me.
I just came back from sarging.I realized the hardest HBs for picking up are girls younger than 25.
Approached a set of 2 HB's.They were around 24 and both were 9's.The type of girls I really like and I’d love to have GF like them .So fuking stylish. I spent a lot of energy and time on them and used whatever I knew. The problems were that I liked both and I think they both kinda like me(saw jealousy) and they were both sitting. I have no idea what to do in this situation to isolate one of them.
The funniest part was that one of them told me to tell her a joke and I said I don’t know American joke. So they started the “ knock knock” joke which was the first time I heard .They played it with each other and me. One of stupidest jokes ever ( as they said at the end too ) and kinda hilarious.
At the end, one of them went to the restroom I tried to get closer to the other one(who I liked more). I almost got to the point to get her fuking number.
And here when the problem starts:
It turns out one of the bartenders is friend of these girls when she came back she talked to the bartender and probably he told her shitty things about me. Also during my conversation with hbs ,I saw the bartender keep coming to our set and trying to involve with hbs. I am pretty sure the bartenders in the bar know me and they know what I am doing. Anyway,the hb approached the other one I was talking to and told her sth in her ear (probably about me) and done. I was out of set and That’s it.
I try to be friend with bouncers wherever I go. But I don’t drink. So even bartenders try to break down my game lol.
I am pretty sure that I was not able to have a deep connection with those HBs. They were party girls that enjoying their time .They were not so deep to involve them in kind of conversation I want.
The only upside is I know if I had approached these girls 4 months ago , I would ‘ve been out of set in 2 mins. Well, I think I need to be lucky too to get what I want for now and it seems I wasn’t at all tonight!

In bars or clubs 'a deep connection' is a connection whereby your tongue is deep down her throat and possibly her mouth full of cock later on. Every other form of connection is pretty meaningless the day after as she was probably drunk. The best way to ensure she comes back is by making herself feel like a huge slut. When the girls says "I'm such a slut" you know you are in.
(Of course there are other ways of starting some form of relationship but in bars it's plain and simple best to push it really hard, really fast.)

In your case: two girls like you? Stand in the middle and hold both. Eventually who knows you can take both with you? Or you take both their numbers and give yours aswell.

And yeah, it's not impossible to be cockblocked by staff when you're extremely goodlooking. Jealousy is a motherfucker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXGGfdcB-EE