There may be many things I don't know about, but one thing I do know is that looks are 100% of sexual attraction for me, and all I need is for a girl to be physically beautiful, in order to be sexually attracted to her. Her personality is irrelevant to me personally, and I can't understand why you guys pretend it matters so much. It's just like the bullshit of "Oh, if a girl rejects me it's her loss and she isn't who I'm looking for anyway" - NO, if a girl rejects you, you don't get to have her and you have failed.
Coming across as respectful to women might be beneficial when talking to a woman, but actually having respect for women has nothing to do with using PUA skills to get a woman in bed!

And FYI I'm not a troll at all, I'm dead serious and am being completely honest.

Do you have any normal female friends? Other women about whoms personality you care? If not, I suggest you take ten steps back and start building up basic social relations first. Thinking personality of a woman doesn't matter at all is not normal, my friend, being suicidal also is quite serious. I don't think at this point you are ready to start learning pick up. You need to work on your problems first.

mack was here.

ok

carry on.

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Sorry I just had to comment on this I cant help but to chuckle. Poor you my friend..what are you trying to prove here? Social interactions are not some kind of mathematical equasion.. this is a joke. And I have to disagree with all your posts..I seriously think you need some time in field mate. You'll see how things are in real life. PU skills are not just to get women in bed..that just proves how AFC you are. When you start training your skills you see really fast that other areas of your life are greatly improved.

I also don't really think you understand attraction. Men and women have different attraction systems. We do not respond the same as they do. Their attraction circuitry is based on how well a male can ensure her survival replication. That's why value is more important than looks. I recommend you start reading some basic attraction material from AFC Adam..you really and I'm feel sorry for you..you don't have a CLUE about women mate. I don't know what age are you but you should start working on your self...

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If it's really all about getting laid as in the physical act of mating: go see some hookers. They're hot, not that expensive and they'll do everything you ask.
The solution to your problem.

My point with the equation is that surely if you take a girl with very little going for her other than her looks, she should be easier right? So if you take that to the extreme and I somehow found a beautiful girl who is mentally retarded with zero social skills, maybe I might be good enough for her to fancy me? That's all I need, an attractive girl being attracted to me!

I already do that, but it's not a solution because I need mutual lust, ie. decent-looking girl(s) to WANT me sexually, otherwise I just feel like a useless sexless hopeless waste of space who has utterly failed as a human being.

I just need a decent-looking girl to sexually want me, can't you guys understand that?!

I think it's pretty simple. You don't find yourself attractive so why would anyone else? Learn to love yourself first and others will too.

Logically, if someone (eg. me) is attractive, people will obviously look at them a lot and give them plenty of sexual attention, they certainly wouldn't ignore them. Now I'm very logical so I simply base my opinion of my own attractiveness on the amount of sexual attention I get from girls who I encounter walking around places like bars and malls. If 8 out of 10 girls look at a guy he must be an 8 out of 10, and if only 1 out of 10 girls look at a guy he must be a 1 out of 10. Unfortunately, the number of these girls looking at me and showing an interest in me is zero (as they all ignore me and never even sneak looks at me), therefore my attractiveness is surely 0 out of 10, therefore my worth as a sexual human being is also zero. This is backed up by the fact that I have very few friends, and only a couple of female acquaintances who I rarely see. Surely if I had any worth as a human being I would have plenty of friends and girls wanting me?

If a miracle occured and I suddenly started getting girls looking at me, like you lucky guys seem to get all the time, then I'd start thinking of myself as attractive. But until then, how on Earth do you expect me to logically change my opinion of my own worth as a sexual being? :S

lol, dude, you have some weird ass perception of reality, most girls don't exactly through there pussy at every guy except you, if they did this forum would be the ''how do I stop all these girls from trying to fuck me forum'' , not the ''how do I get more girls and better quality girls to fuck me forum'', just about every guy, even the most physically attractive guys who are super charming, and awesome, with money, still are likely to face more rejection then lays, you can hypothetically go on a hot streak, but it is still more likely you get more no's then yes's unless you want to invest into a relationship with every girl you talk to, get over your issues, if you think you are worthless and shitty, then you are going to just communicate this to people, if you are ugly then you are ugly, that is life, you can become fit, you can stop being so negative and self loathing if you work on yourself, and you can approach alot of girls and go through all the no's it takes to get a yes,

but really you should probably go see a doctor and tell them about your issues, you seem really depressed, and should probably try to find some help instead of seeking girls as the answer to your problem, I guarentee even if you do get a decent girlfriend you will still hate yourself, you will still feel empty, you will still feel unattractive, nothing will change except you will be desperately neurotic about losing the girlfriend you have, and it will drive her away (this is just my prediction), and on top of that you will be more depressed once you realize nothing changed, but with your current attitude the chances of you getting any girl to want to be your girlfriend are pretty low

you just have to be a happy person that respects himself and believes in himself, no matter how ugly you are, if you approach enough and have this attitude, eventually you will find a girl who is not purely superficial and she will fuck you, but you have to be reasonable, most girls who have 30 guys lined up trying to date her are going to pick the best guy out of the pile, you either gotta work on yourself until you can be the best guy, or find a girl who will fuck all the guys, or lower your unrealistic standards

I don't think you understand how detrimental your negative mindset is, if you think your attractiveness is zero it will be zero. I was once a bit like you but after I understood that I'm sabotaging myself I started to make a change and guess what? My life also changed. Now I'm still very much at the start of my road but a simple thing like that has already completely turned things around. You need to make that change if you ever want girls to like you.

How about forgetting about girls all together for a while and focus on improving yourself? Start working out and join some clubs or something. Make yourself a better man and learn to appreciate yourself and magical things can happen.

I still don't understand this concept. If I see a gorgeous girl, I couldn't give a flying fuck about her opinion of herself, all I care is that she's gorgeous so I sexually want her. Even if she had zero self-esteem and thought she was ugly (which most girls pretend they think anyway), I'd still want to fuck her every day for the rest of my life (ie. marry her). So can you please explain how on Earth a negative mindset inside my head affects a girl's assessment from across a bar or shop of how physically sexy my face is and whether I'm worth her glancing at me?

I am seeing a therapist but it hasn't changed a thing, I'm still depressed and systematically ignored by girls. It's almost like womankind is determined to constantly ignore me until I commit suicide out of frustration.

I still dispute this ridiculous idea that if I got a sexy girlfriend I'd still be depressed - you clearly have no idea how I feel if you think I'd be anything other than in paradise if I managed to get a sexy girl who wanted me. Mind you, you make a reasonable point about me getting paranoid of losing a hot girl if I ever got lucky enough to get one.
So this girl would reject 29 out of these 30 guys just because they weren't lucky enough to be genetically blessed enough to be the best? See this really pisses me off, girls go on and on and on and on and on and on and on about wanting love, yet they seem to spend their entire lives mostly just rejecting guys and preventing them from getting to have sex with them - WTF?! Seriously, why do girls seem hellbent on constantly cockblocking guys from getting with them, yet hypocritically pretend they are kind, caring people who want everyone to be happy?!

The easiest way for a hot girl to spread happiness & joy is to fuck a load of guys, but oh no they won't do that, so why do they claim to care about people's happiness? Beauty is like a massive bank account that never runs out of money. If one had a massive bank account that never ran out of money, one could donate to loads of charities, tramps & poor people and end poverty, and still the money would just keep coming. Similarly, a hot girl's sexy body and beautiful face are like an incredibly valuable asset that never depreciates (for several years anyway), and maintains its tremendous quality regardless of how many times it's used for sex with guys. So why won't hot girls use this brilliant asset for good, and devote their lives to delivering sexual satisfaction to millions of guys, and still never run out of beauty or have their beauty diminish? (Of course their beauty will inevitably reduce as they get old, but what I mean is that their physical beauty will reduce at the same rate regardless of how many guys they fuck).

You're delusional man. Ever see a really hot girl with an ugly guy? How do you think he got her? If you won't accept what everyone here is telling you there's really no point for you to be on this forum at all. It's simple, if you think everyone else is wrong that means that you are the one who is wrong.

No I never see this. The only guys I ever see with girlfriends are always fairly tall and handsome. The worst thing is, many of the girls I see with boyfriends are ugly/average/chubby and yet they still have the cheek to get a tall, handsome boyfriend. I never see short ugly guys with even vaguely decent-looking girls. Girls are the picky elitist bitches, guys just have to take whatever they can get! And yet girls claim to be kind, caring people who aren't shallow and care about 'personality' - so incredibly hypocritical!!!
I guarantee you that I will NOT still be depressed if I somehow acquired a hot girlfriend, because then I wouldn't care what I looked like. The only point in looking good is to attract a hot girl, but once you've got a hot girl sexually & emotionally attached to you you're sorted for life.