Hey man.. how much time did you wait when you sent the text that she didn't reply? Is it like a day? a week? That is important. By the way don't stress out.. it happened the same thing to me a while ago.. and this HB who I picked up didn't answered my text.. it took her 2 days to respond but she apologized that her cellphone had a problem. And after that it was back to normal. Sometimes we analyze too much.. but it can happen that if you didn't build enough comfort with her and you waited like a week without texting her.. that maybe she has buyer's remorse. By the way you're describing your situation I think she really likes you there must be another cause of why she isn't responding. In my opinion, don't wait a month...telegraph a little bit of interest and push/pull a lot... tease the shit out of her at least in text game if you can't see her for a month because of university. I would say to follow Mystery's rule... 7 to 10 hours of comfort builiding before sex.. maybe your coffee date wasn't enough time to build enough comfort and that's why you have to see her again. How many days have you waited since she didn't respond? And by the way you're doing great.. don't text her again you're coming off as needy and as if you seek her validation!

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hay man, cheers for your reply. sorry its taken me so long to get back to you. she text back pretty quickly after I posted that original message. I did wait a day and a half for the reply but she apologized and gave a reasonable excuse. However, she's done the same thing today. I am getting the vibe that she isn't very interested any more. Bit of a shame because I never even got to kiss her but you win some your loose some I guess. I'm trying to analyse what I did wrong and there are a few things that I would change but I honestly think that this may be one of those cases that something has happened in her life that is out of my control. she is very talkative one second and then there is nothing the next... maybe an ex is back on the scene or something. who knows.. If she doesn't reply to me today I'm gonna take that as a hint of disinterest and not contact her again. If she's playing games and trying to gain some control then I guess she will realise that I'm not playing along and will get in contact. If she's not then I've not lost anything. See what happens I guess.

Freak

If you really think you're losing her... you still have a one shot last resort. Qualification my friend does magic. Did you qualify yourself to her when you picked her up? If not.. this is another sticking point a lot of guys have.. you build attraction great but without her knowing that she's winning you over.. she will lose interest..she has to know that you like her. In the first 10min of your set start some qualification material. In your situation.. I don't know if you did or not but if you really feel like you're losing her.. maybe a straight qualifying line "Hey I really want to see you next week" may save you. If you qualify and even after that your move didn't seem to cause an impact in her behaviour.. I would say to move on to the next and analyze where you could've performed better. Good luck!

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Firstly : HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYONE!

After what feels like a life time I'm going to be heading back to Uni soon where I can start gaming again. Over the Christmas period I have been back home and although I've been able to practice my basics, for example body language, I live in a relatively small town and unfortunately there isn't really any where to pick up HBs.

Saying all this I've been doing quite a lot of busking for an extra bit of cash and its been nice having girls drop there numbers in my guitar case along with a few coins (happened twice)... didn't bother following any of them up though as I knew I didn't really have the time to make anything from them. At a mates birthday I K closed one girl but I didn't right about it as I was absolutely smashed off my tits so am not really sure how it happened lol...

Anyway that is the extent of my boring Christmas holidays as far as HBs go. I'm really righting here to let anyone that is following my journal know that I will be posting regularly again soon and that along with giving up smoking my new years resolution is to work hard on my PU skills... lets see what stories new years eve in Brighton will bring....

Freak

Cool man! Don't give up..I'll keep motivating you it seems a lot of people give up after 4 months in to pick up. But if you go through that period results will explode! Good luck in field!

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Reading your posts is really motivating, although I don't really see much rejections. My night game, depending of the sociability of my friends, always has a few rejections.

That's also why I want to learn more about daygame.
And reading about you in all those situations shows that it isn't all that difficult!

What I do recommend is trying to alternate between indirect and direct approaching.
Direct requires more balls but shows more confidence!

Keep it up!

Well..her I am. Going to go back out in the wilderness. Dating sucks at my age (45)...picking up women doesn't.

The ex doesn't want to move. Chemistry is fantastic. You don't run across kryptonite too often. And that's what I tried to tell her. You'll count them on your fingers. That expansive universe that is always comfortable. So...who knows. I saw her this AM...and I was an AFC, total beta. She broke my concept of what's right.

Anyway, I am not going back into any relationship anytime soon. But, starting tonight its game time. Lined up a workout partner (she's from out of town) Cute little asian girl.

I'll keep you all posted. Let the games begin.

Okay so this is my first proper post in ages. I’m back in Guildford now after a long Christmas holidays and I’m ready to start working on my game again. I went out last night for the first time since last semester and I’m ashamed to say it was a bit of a disaster. I’m a bit down today because I feel like I’ve forgotten everything I worked for just a short amount of time ago. I was never an approach demon but last night I didn’t manage to get one proper approach in. To be fair to myself, the clubs and bars were DEAD!! The first place I walked into the only people there when I first went in were the friends I was meeting. The second place every single person in there except for my group was coupled off boyfriend and girlfriend style. So not much opportunity but here’s my night either way.

I got my self ready and went out to meet my friends at about 10pm. We were meeting at a place called flares which is a 60s disco club. I walked into town and headed to the cash point opposite flares when I met the first people of the night.

These two good looking girls came up and were waiting for me to finish using the cash point when I heard one say to her friend.

“town is dead!, I thought Thursdays were student nights”

I turned around and said with a big smile

“I know its fucking lame right, I wanted to go out cause trouble and pick up chicks…… think I might just go home, put on a romantic movie and cry myself to sleep now.”

They laughed and asked me where I was going. I told them flares and asked the same question back.

Girl 1 - “were gonna go rave it up in Tesco, might even buy some chocolate whilst were in there”

Me “haha, no way… I hope you guys have a good movie planned for when you get back home”

Girl 2 - “seriously…. You don’t wanna know.”

Me “try me”

Girl 2 “notebook”

Me “oh jesus… I thought you guys were cool but now I realise I cant ever hang out with you. One of my ex’s totally notebooked me and I’ve never been the same since. I still have nightmares sometimes, haha”

Girl 1 - “haha yeah its not really a boys film but it is the BEST FILM EVER” (said with a jokey smile)

Me “ you know your wrong, its blatantly SPAM ahah… no but seriously, you know what I don’t get.. Why do girls like these romantic films? I admit they can pull your heart strings a little bit but in a real life situation most of the shit that girls think is sweet in these movies is actually just plane creepy. I bet you if some guy got out of the seat on a carnival ride and started hanging off a pole threatening to kill himself if you didn’t go on a date with him you wouldn’t think it was sweet (that’s a scene in the notebook by the way)… you would think the guys a fucking nutter and do anything to get away from him.

Girl 1 - “hahah I’ve never looked at it like that before but I guess your right.”

Me (as I started walking away)- “anyway guys I better go meet my mates, you enjoy your shit film and I’ll enjoy a shit night.. Nice meeting you”

I thought that that little interaction when well and as I was walking away I got a little bit angry at myself because they were giving IOI’s and I think without much more convocation I could’ve gone in for the number close.

Okay so I walk into flares and like I said it was only my friends in there… I’m gonna skip forward now because all that happened then was I chatted to everyone. About an hour later I was out side smoking. I was speaking to a good friend of mine and there was a group of two girls and a guy that had just come in standing next to us. The girls wern’t really attractive (maybe HB 5/6) but I was getting fidgety and wanted to run some game regardless of whether I was going to follow it up or not. I was thinking of a way to open whilst still talking to my friend when the guy from there group turn around and drunkenly asked my friend from the cigarette. My friend said that he only had one left and the girl said loudly “oh go on its his birthday”

Okay it’s a shit opener I know but I just thought on my feet, lent over to them and say

Me “no fucking way, its mine too” (I made it pretty obvious it wasn’t actually my birthdays and was just fucking with them by the way I said it)

Girl 1 - “bullshit!, when were you born”

Me (sarcastically with a smile) “wow… your friendly arn’t you.” then to her friend “jesus how do you role with this girl”

Girl 1 (drunk) - “let me see your ID”

Girl 2 (less drunk) - says to her “dude, its not actually his birthday.. He’s just messing about. Chill out”

Me - to girl 2 “ haha, I like you… I’m adopting you as my new little sister.. (put my arm around her and she lent in and reciprocated)… (at girl 1 jokily) I’m not so sure about you though”

Girl 1 “ah no I’m nice too I swear”

Me - “okay I’ll give you another chance. Are you guys best friends”

Girl 1 - “no” at same time as girl 2

Girl 2 - “Yes”

Me - “ah awkward, you know what, whatever your relationship is I bet you guys spend a lot of time together don’t you”

Girl 2 - “yeah quite a lot”

Me - “you have like exactly the same expressions, lets do the best friends test and I’ll find out weather or not your best friends after all”

Girl 2 - “haha okay go on then”

At this point the drunk guy that was asking for a cigarette turn around grabs me shakes me and says in a pleading voice “please give me a cigarette”

Me - I knock him off and say “wow calm down mate…. I’ll give you one, just stop shaking me or I’ll throw up on you”

I give him one and he properly starts cock blocking me swaying about stumbling inbetween me and these girls trying to start a conversation with me. I pick him up and prop him against the wall. Light his fag for him and turn back to the girls. There laughing at what just happened and I say

Me - “at least he’s having a good night…. You know what you guys look like sisters. I cant believe I only just realised that”

Girl 1 - playfully hits me on the arm and says “haha no we don’t”

Me playfully- “I really need to teach you how to punch, that was pathetic haha”
Just as I say that my mate taps me and says were leaving to go to another club.. I quickly say good bye and leave with my friends.

To be honest I didn’t really think that went that well. There was a lot of distraction which was good practice to deal with but I think I was finely getting thought to them just before I left. I just felt like if I had used a different opener I could have started in a much stronger position.

Okay so after that there literally wasn’t another opportunity to approach as everyone was locked in with what looked like a boyfriend or girlfriend. I’m going out again tonight and I want to get a good few approaches in so wish me luck. I need some confidence back!

Freak

Well, I saw some pretty good stuff going on there man! Why didn't you just number closed the SPAM girls?! Or said that they should go with you, or the other way around?!

And those HB6's were into you as well and you just left? I mean it seems like you had them in the bag, could've gone dancing with them or something. And your friend says to get out of there while you're gaming those chicks, I mean he could've at least said let's go to the dancefloor... Not something you can do much about, but at least tell him for the next time lol.

Thanks man, Yeah I suppose your right and thats why i was quite pissed that i hadn't followed it up. I guess because its been a while since I last went out gaming i wasnt really thinking strait.

As far as my friend goes i don't hold it against him. We were in a big group and i didnt want to get separated from them for two girls that i wasn't really into. I was supposed to go out last night but ended up having a quiet one.
however tonight i'm back on and am gonna seriously go for it. I need to re-boost my confidence and the only way i'm gonna do that is to go and approach.

Freak

Dude, good job. You're doing a great job at opening and building attraction. All you had to do with the first set was number close and promise to meet up next week and tell them that you're not going to let their next weekend be so lame. And the second set was golden, pick your target and isolate. Then ask the interview type questions while building kino. Keep it up Freak, you're gonna be a star!

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WARNING…. THIS IS LONG!!! BUT ONE OF MY BEST NIGHTS YET!!!!


I'm not sure how everybody else does it but when I go out night gaming I do drink quite a lot. My problem is that until now I've been going out with people that have no idea what game is and not a clue that I'm doing it. People have noticed that I'm always looking to talk to women and some have even labelled me as a bit of a player and asked how I do it…

I usually joke fully point at my face and say - “donno man, I guess its just the money maker... Ahah nah I’m kidding”

I want to help these guys find what I’ve found but I don’t want everybody to know what I’m doing.
Thankfully most guys just respect the fact that I try to meet HB’s but some (usually the ones with no balls that never approach women anyway) ignore the fact that I'm getting more action than all of them put together and concentrate on the times I fail. I don't really care and laugh off their banter because when I got into this I knew that it was inevitable that I wouldn't succeed every time... ever wise why would I be bothering.

Anyway, these people don’t really know what I’m doing and I prefer it that way so every time I go out its under the pretence of “lets go get fucked!!!” (yes, I am a student aha)… But I’m getting pretty fed up with this because I want to game more than I can afford if I have to drink. Also even though I stay pretty level headed after a few too many beers it definitely does still hinder my game…. Next time I go out I’m going to try going sober and see what difference it makes. I predict more AA but once passed the opener I reckon it will help my game out a lot.

So finally… Last night. (two nights ago now… this has taken fucking ages to write)

The night began the same as any other. I headed over to a mates house and started drinking. After an hour or so headed to a bar called Five and Lime…We walked in, got ourselves some drinks and headed out side for a smoke. I had been scouting for sets to open but pretty much everyone in there except for the extraordinarily hot bar maids were in their mid 30s…(anyone got any ideas on how to hit on busy bar maids lol)... Each to their own but I am no MILF hunter, I prefer girls around my own… just as I lent back on the wall and started digging into my pocket to find a lighter a blond HB 5/6 standing next to me says

HB - “do you need a lighter”

I had just got mine out when she finished asking and so held mine up and said

Me - “nah its cool I’ve got one.. Thanks anyway”

I wasn’t attracted to this girl but as I finished speaking and turned back to my friend I realised that this is a perfect opportunity to just get in a chatty mood and start gaming.

I turn back to her and ask if she’s having a good night

HB - “yeah its been nice.. I’m here with a bunch of girl friends (looking inside)”

Me - as I take a drag from my cigarette I playfully say “ah cool and you’re the unhealthy one?… you know you shouldn’t smoke”

HB - “haha you can talk”

Me - “hay its like my dad always used to say… do as I say not as I do”

Me - I shake her hand and we swap names… “so you don’t really strike me as a Guildford girl”

HB - “really… why do you say that?”

Me - “well in my experience Guildford girls are usually quite stuck up…… you don’t really come across that way…”

HB - “haha… I live in Woking (ahah serious fluke out there lol)”

Me - “So are you a student?”

HB - “No I’m actually a teacher…”

Me - “Really that’s so cool, I’ve always wanted to have a class of kids that I can mould and into little me’s… ahah. Not but seriously that actually really cool. What do you teach?”

HB - “Psychology and maths”

Me - “No way.. I love psychology…. I have to play a game with you. Imagine a black bored……” I run the 3 and 7 routine, get her on both numbers and then go on to say about how its basic human psychology that you will pick those numbers….. Makes you wonder about the lottery doesn’t it.

Okay so this convocation actually carried on for ages and we ended up having a pretty cool chat about psychology. The whole way through I kino escalated and I’m pretty sure that if I had gone for a number close or even kiss close I wouldn’t have been disappointed. Regardless I wanted neither and was just warming up so started to try and find a reason to get away from her…. She made it really difficult because every time I tried to bring the conversation to a close she would open it up again. My friend realised what was happening as he saw me start to drink extremely fast so I could have a reason to get away and disappeared for a few mins.. When he came back, he grabbed me turning me round and handed me a shot!!!!.. We slammed them and then he goes “okay so lets get out of here”…. FINALY aha.. Never thought I would be in the situation you see so many girls in at the bars lol…. I turn back around and say I have to leave but it was really nice meeting you to Sarah and walk out of there.

Next we walk into a bar called Pews…. It was my round so I go to the bar and order a few beers.

I get the drinks and go to find my mate… I find him in a set of 3 Hbs . Now this is what I’m talking about! Turns out that he knew them all anyway. I realise that he’s got his attention all on one girl and so I decide to take the other two girls off his hands and wing him. I walk up hand him his drink and address the other two girl..

Me - “hi I’m *****”

HBs - give names blah blah…

Me - “Are you guys best friends”

HB 1 - “yeah…”

Me - “I could totally tell man. You guys have almost identical expressions. I almost though you were sisters for a second there…. “ (I look at them both pretty intensely for a second and say) “So I recon you’re the bad one” (looking at HB 1 my target of the two they start to laugh

Me - “okay so I want to do a little experiment on you guys, I head about this game the other day and I want to see if it works… who’s the smartest out of you guys” the girls laugh and agree to play along

HB 2 - “her” pointing at my target…

Me - “okay I’m doing it on you then” looking at back at HB 2

Me - “this is called the 5 question game….”

On a side note, Neil Strauss’s five question game has never ever failed me… its fucking great. I’m getting a lot of IOI’s from these girls now so I start to turn it all down a notch and ask the question like what do you do blah blah blah…. Turns out my target is another teacher… what are the chances lol.

Anyway its going nicely when the girl my mate was talking to walks past says good bye to her friends… she looks at me, smiles, holds out her hand and says “sorry we never met”….

Me - I hold my hand away and playfully say “no I wont shake your hand, you suck!”

Her - “haha what? Why?”

Me - I say with a smile “because its (slowly look at my watch and look back up at her) 11.10 and your going home…. My mum‘s got more stamina than you and she‘s 53?”

She laughs and explains that she was up until five in the morning the day before…. I hold up my hands and say

Me - “you know what in that case fair game.. Go home, fill up your water bottle and get into bed… I would have been asleep ages ago”

Her - “ah water bottle, that’s a really good idea. haha”

Me - “anyway, come here”
I give her a big hug and introduce myself at the same time. She says her name in my ear and gives me a big squeeze… I’m not going to lie… I felt kind of bad because I got the feeling that that girl was totally into me after just blowing my friend off… it was kind of awkward lol… anyway I pushed her off and said “okay you can go home now”.. My friend never came over and just lent up against the wall on his phone.

I carried on talking to the other two girls for a few minuets and then excused myself saying that I didn’t want to leave my mate alone all night. As I left they said, “were going up to Tudor Lounge later, you and your buddy should come”.. I say “yeah maybe see you guys later”.

My friend and I go back to the bar to get some more drinks when I over hear some people saying happy birthday to a HB… I made a mental note of which one it is and then ignore their group.

After getting some drinks I was locked into a conversation with another dude I know from Uni. Whilst we were talking he opened up a 3 set of women in their mid 30s when one of them knocked a drink over. I’m not really sure how it all happened but I ended up sitting down and talking to them. It was a good set and the women were really flirtatious. A few days ago I bought a necklace with a small clock face as the pendant… My version of a subtle peacock, something that doesn’t make me look stupid but is a little bit different. I don’t want to take the peacock theory too far but I do think that if you have something small and stylish that you can wear then it makes it easy for a girl to find a topic with you…. Since I’ve had it so many people have commented and said that its pretty cool… anyway my point is these women liked it and it gave us something to talk about. They also noticed my thumb ring and asked to try it on. When they realised that it was way to big for any of their fingers we all started compeering hand size. One of them starts grabbing my hand, looking me in the eye with a pretty intense look and going on about how big my hands were, IOI!

After a while I saw my mate alone so I ejected and went to chill with him for a bit… We were chatting when I realised the birthday girl and her party of 5 were at the table I was standing next to. I lent over the middle of the table held out my hand really confidently for a high five and said… “Happy Birthday man, Give me some skin!” the girl slapped my hand and said thank you.

The girl immediately to her right goes “aww that’s so sweet… sit down”

I start talking to the girls and wave my hand for my friend to sit down as well. He sits and starts talking to the girl on the far left. I speak to the other 4 girls and the set was going well. Eventually it ends up with me and the girl that said “aww that’s so sweet” talking.

This is where it went wrong…. Lol

I’m pulling a kind of cocky funny type thing and teasing her. She’s playing along and showing me a lot of IOIs. Anyway she seems to like the confident approach so I start pushing the boundaries and making it interesting. I cant remember how she brought it up but she said she was married.…. By the way she said it I thought she was joking so I called her out.

Me - “Bullshit!… your not wearing an engagement or wedding ring?”

She laughs and holds my eye like she knew she had just been busted but she didn’t really mind… I assumed that she was saying she was married as part of the banter going back and forth between us so go on…

Me - “Anyway not wearing a ring would be a very provocative statement for a married woman”

I saw her entire composer change, her eyes glaze over and the viper in her mouth coil up as I realised that I had just triggered a switch I didn’t want to be messing with.

Her - “Did you just call me a slut?”

Me - Ah shit! I act confused and say “um… what?”

Her - “did you just call me a slut?”

Me - “no…. I said that not wearing a ring is a provocative statement”

At this point it didn’t matter. She had already decided that I had just called her a slut.

She turns to her friend and says.. “he just called me a slut”… and she looks at me..

Me - “ sorry I think you have the wrong idea…I never called you a slut… I think you may have just had a little bit to much to drink”

That was a BAD thing to say… she points away from the table and says pretty loudly… “Fuck off!!”

I assed the situation and realised that there was no way I was going to be able to have a reasonable conversation with this girl and explain what I had said now. She was too drunk and not only had she decided that I had called her a slut but now she was showing off in front of her friends and for her to cave in and have a reasonable conversation with me would have made her look very week…. So I figure I’m just going to walk away.

I stand up and say in a really calm manner with a smile on my face… “you know what.. There’s no reasoning with a drunk person.. You need to learn how to listen”.. I politely say happy birthday and goodbye to her friend and walk away.

Okay so that was my first proper shut down… I am proud of myself because I haven’t taken it personally at all.. Maybe because I was actually interested in the birthday girl but hay whatever. Yeah it was a bit embarrassing but at the end of the day. I don’t give a fuck about what anyone thinks and I’m never going to see those people again anyway. I just laughed it off and walked outside for a cigarette… my mate follows laughing at me… I love the guy but sometimes he can be a bit of a cock. He’s one of those guys that in that kind of situations he will take the girls side and agree with them because he thinks it gives him a better chance of getting with them. Little does he know all that does is make you look weak…. Bro’s before hoes man!!!!!

We decide to walk to a pub called the kings head for a quick drink as its pretty close by before we head up to Tudor lounge. We get there and I say “are they even still serving”.. I was smoking so he said he would pop in and ask while I finish my cigarette. As he goes inside and I notice a HB 8 in the corner of my eye looking kind of pissed off texting. I walked strait up to her and said…

Me - Looking her in the eye very confidently “so… (Pause)…. Are you a one thumb or a two thumb texter?”

Her - “ahah… er one thumb…. Actually no Two thumb…….” She starts going off on one about how at different times she does different things and getting a bit technical about the whole thing..

Me - Interrupting her “wow wow wow… calm down…. I’m not doing a survey or anything.. the only reason I said that was to start a convocation with you”

Her - “ahhh very smooth”

Me - “haha thank-you.. I try… I’m ****”

Her - “I’m *****”

I decide to go with a natural approach to this girl because I already showed her quite a lot of interest in the opener… she seems to have reacted pretty well and so I carry on.

Me - “You looked really bored when I first saw you… its nice to see your smiling now. You have a nice smile”

Her - “ahh thanks.. You have a nice smile too..” (the cliché compliment return… if I wasn’t going with a direct approach I would have busted her on it) “yeah I’m driving tonight so as sober as a priest”

Me - “I donno, I’ve known of a few priests that like the blood of Christ a bit too much…… my priest at school would have probably done better at Alcoholics Anonymous than confession” (I did actually have a drunk priest at school… I feel really bad for the guy but it was funny how ironic it was)

Her - “No fucking way…. that’s sooo bad.”

My mate comes back outside and tells me that we’ve missed last orders so we have to head to Tudor lounge. I take him literally and say goodbye to the girl and start to walk away. we get outside the pub garden and he says

Friend - “Dude, I didn’t mean right away.. That girl was hot”

Me - “ah for fuck sake man, ahaha… I though you wanted to go”

Friend - “ah sorry dude… nah I was cool chilling for a bit”

So we walked away anyway but at least my mate had said sorry… made me feel a little bit less bad about all the times I had walked away from women to rescue his sorry ass already tonight lol….

We got into Tudor Lounge and got some drinks.. There were loads of people I know in there so I start saying hi to everyone and just kind of dominating the bar. The two girls that asked me and my friend to come to meet them earlier were there like promised. I didn’t see them but I felt a tap on my back and as I turned around realised it was them. I greeted them with a double hug as if we had been friends since we were five and then said that I would come find them in a bit because I’m just talking to a mate I haven’t see for a few months..

About half an hour later me and my friend had broken away from everyone to get some drinks when he saw some guys he used to work with.. I introduced myself to them and stood there like a lemon for a minuet or so whilst they talked about people I didn’t know. I noticed the two girls from earlier out of the corner of my eye so I tapped my Friend on the shoulder and said “I’ll be back in a bit”. I walk up to the two girls from earlier.

Me - Looking at the time on my necklace clock - “good morning ladies… how are we this fine morning?”

(Just to refresh you guys - HB2 is my target)

HB 1 - “good”
HB 2 - “good… how are you?”

We carry on chatting for a while and then my friend does the best thing he’s done all night. He comes over and starts talking to HB1.. I reposition myself so that for HB 2 to talk to me she has to turn her back on her friend. This is the closed to isolation I think I would have been able to go for. We carry on chatting and I start to build comfort with her… as I run out of things to say I start using a method I head of on this forum… you make a statement about them when they were young and then follow up with a question…

Me - “so I bet you were a badass when you were in primary school weren’t you…… what was the naughtiest thing you did?”

Her - “ahah…. No I was always a good girl..”

Me - “I don’t believe you… I think you paint this innocent veil around yourself but deep down your still a badass”

Her - “really… I guess you’ll just have to wait and find out for yourself….. What was the most badass thing you did then”

Me - I say playfully “haha, see…. That wasn’t very innocent. I’ve got you all figured out *name*. Erm.. I remember a pretty funny thing I did when I was like 4 or 5 or something….. So apparently when I was young I was a bit of a nudist”

I tell her a story about how a lot of my best friend that are girls these days love to remind me that the first peinis they ever saw was mine (DHV that I have a lot of girl friends)… I was bored in a finger painting class once (or something like that) and after terrorising the teaches for a while I decided that I was going to sing the class a song… I stood up…. whipped my trousers off, started shaking my balls around and started singing jingle bells…

Yes the story is kind of embarrassing but its funny…. its shows I can laugh at myself and I’ve never had any other reaction except for putting girls into shit fits of giggles. This time was no different.

Anyway I’ve totally digressed… you make a statement about when they were young and ask an open question. Then you follow all of the threads from that until there’s nothing left to speak about, then you make a statement and ask a question from the next stage in their life… for example when they are 16. By the time you’ve got to the present you’ve not only had loads of time to build comfort and Kino escalate but you’ve shared memories right from your childhood. This builds up a sense that you’ve know each other for MUCH longer than you really have.

Okay so I was doing all this when I started to noticed that the other girl body language, the one my friend was talking to, had completely changed and she was starting to give out distress signals saying save me to everyone in the bar. I realised that it was a matter of time before she got the girl I was talking to to save her. So I decided to go in for the number close before it was just because she was leaving.

Me - as I pull my phone out “you know what you and I should go and get a drink sometime”

Her - “yeah definitely….”

I hand her my phone and she puts her number in. I call her and adds me to her contacts as well.

Literally like clockwork.. As soon as we had exchanged numbers the HB1 comes over and says lets go to the loo…… I lean over to the ear of HB2 and wisper..

Me - “I have a feeling that you guys wont be coming back…. Your friend looks like she wants to run a mile”

Her - “haha.. Your too good at this… (pulls a serious face and says) you’ve got my number… call me sometime”
Me - with a knowing face and a wink I say “haha… okay I will”…. we hug quickly.

That was the last set of the night. Me and my friend waited there for a while for them to come back and I didn’t have the heart to tell him they weren’t coming back so I just said… “dude, please don’t make me talk to that girl anymore…. She’s soooo fucking boring.. Lets go get some shots”

We ended up doing 4 shots in a row each… I didn’t mind. I was celebrating a good night and was ready to go home….. Not gonna lie though, I was completely smashed and was pretty surprised to wake up in bed the next day not knowing how I got there.

Over all I think it was a good night. I had zero AA but that could have just been the booze. Next time I go out I want to n close more girls because I think that a lot of them would have given me their number without too much trouble. I also want to start going in for K closes. I’m going out tonight so wish me luck.

Freak

So I've been sarging loads recently... I've found two wings that I can go out with which is awesome. It makes it a lot easier when you know you have someone to motivate and support you. One is more of a beginner than I am and the other is at about the same level, maybe a little bit further along.

In all honesty I've decided to make my post's on here a little shorter as they are taking too long to write and eating into time I could be using to game or do uni work. so what I'm going to do from now on is talk about the best set and the worst set from any given day/night of sarging. This way I will have more time to evaluate what I am doing wrong and then get better. I'm gonna leave out the last few days because its all a bit hazy after a few day... Next post will be tomorrow.

Freak

Best sets of the other night.

I walk out side to have a cigarette (in a bar called legion in Guildford). My wings were still inside so I just wanted to open to keep from getting bored. There was this blond HB 9, obviously quite a lot older that me but I saw all these guys around me staring at her and looking like they wanted to talk but didn't know what to say. I knew it was a losing battle but i just thought fuck it i'm gonna open for shits and giggles.

Me - Over the shoulder "hay, are you friendly?"

Her - in an eastern European accent "haha yes!"

Me - "okay good cos I'm gonna get bored smoking on my own. I'm ****"

Her - "Hello, I'm *****"

Me - "Hmmm.. I detect an accent. Are you cheque?"

Her - "ahh good guess, people usually say Poland. Yes. I'm from Prague"

Me - "No way, I have a friend that lives in Prague. He says its an amazing city. What made you come to England?"

She's finished smoking now but stays anyway.

Her - "yes it is.... Its much more friendly. Conversations like this don't happen often in England.... I came here for modelling?"

Me - take her hand with a mine, smile joke-fully and say "oh cool... A hand model yes...."

Her - she gently punches my arm and says playfully "haha, your so rude..."

Me - "no seriously though, I've dated a model a while back and I've got to be honest I'm not sure I usually like them. They can be quite bitchy.... Its nice to meet one that is down to earth".... she smiles and says thank you.... "so anyway what makes you different from all these people here? what do you like doing"

Her - "well.... i am Cheque"

Me - "haha"

Her - "erm... I'm fun, honest and not cheep like English girls. What about you"

we carry on talking for a while and I start to kino escalate when I've got a few IOI's.. then a guy walks out about 5mins later and comes strait up to us both.

Me - I turn to him and say "Hay man, How are you?... I'm *****"

He looks really pissed off and bluntly says his name

Me - "So how do you guys know each other?"

Him - "this is my girlfriend"

She looks so busted right now...

Me - "ah cool man".. I lean in to him a bit and say "Nice catch man"

She laughs and smiles at me.

Him - to his GF "lets go inside"

Me - "okay nice to meet you guys. Good luck with your hand modelling"

Her - "yes nice to meet you too. I will probably bump into you in here again."

I walk away.



This was a pretty funny set. She gave me shit loads of IOI's and I really pissed off her boy friend cos he blatantly though she was flirting with me. I think I handled him quite well considering and although she was a lot older than me I think I got her attracted to me.

When I walked away I noticed my wings talking to two girls so I headed over to them and talked to one of them...

Wing "HAAYYY MAN, how you doing... this is *****"

Her - "hi"

Me- "Hay whats up.... (back to the wing now) Dude, smokin' cheque girl back there"

Wing - "i know man i saw.... she was fucking hwat!."

i cant remember exactly how the conversation went from there on but after my wing subtly gestured to me that he wasn't interested in this girl I though I would game her anyway.

I was being C&F and she was loving it. We joked about having a pretend fight in the street (cant really remember why but there was a good reason at the time) and then she asked my age. I told her to guess and she said 29. I was like,
"wow no way near man... i'm 21."
i asked her how old she was and she made me guess... I went low at 23 and she told me she was 30. I teased her sayin
"wow your really old... i'm not sure you could keep up with my stamina"
She laughed and told me a story about how she pulled a 19 year old last weekend. I think she was implying that the fact that I was a lot younger didn't bother her.
She started Kino me loads and i was playin around sayin
"careful... i've got the child line memorised"

My mate said lets go inside at this point and because i wasn't really attracted to this girl and didn't want to stay talking to her all night i went in with him. Later that night i was walking past the dance floor and the girl ran out of the middle. grabbed me and pulled me into all the people. started grinding me and all that shit.... so yeah I think that set went well.


One really nice confidence boost was an HB9 in a group of girls around my age moving in front of me when I was walking through the dance floor. Put her hands around my neck and started dancing on me.... YES ON ME, it was like a fucking lap dance aha. I stayed for a min or two and then I'm not really sure why but I walked away. She grabbed my arm as in to pull me back but I said "i'm going to get a drink"... i was stupid and yes the first thing i thought in the morning was "YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!! SHE WAS TOTALLY INTO YOU! WHY DID YOU LEAVE THAT GIRL...SHE WOULD BE NEXT TO YOU RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAD STAYED"

okay so there's two night game sets that went really well and the cool thing about that night is that I had chatted to so many girls that i had DHV the shit out of the place. Girls started opening me and it became SOOO easy, it was me saying i have to go to all the girls and them saying "ahhh... well come find me later yeah"... i think i opened at least 15sets and was opened by another 10ish... and pretty much all of them went really well. My goal for the night was to open as many as i could and so i achived that but i should have realised that i was having a good night and changed to to as many numbers as possible or something.

One last thing. I was chatting to a good mate of mine that has seems to have given me this stigma that i'm really good with women. I was brushing it off and just saying its just cos i actually have to balls to go and talk to girls (and i believe that's the truth for a lot of us)... I subtly pointed to a 5 set of HB 8-10s and said "try it man... you'll do fine". He was like "no way man, you show me how, if you can do it i'll give you £10". I was pissed he had put me on the spot but i wanted to help the guy so said. Nah man keep your money, my goal is to get you one of them so come over in a few mins and be really lively. I walked up to the girls and said "Excuse me.. do you think i look like a drug dealer" they all said yes lol. Anyway the set went really well and when my friend came over i gave him a massive DHV welcome. I introduced him by name to ever girl there. Unfortunately he was a bit shy and so even though i changed my focus to one particular girl and calmed down a lot so he would have a chance to take over the set he never really managed to and they kept there attention on me.

It was an epic night and I though it went really well. The sad thing is i know that that night was lucky and to be able to be like that every night its going to take a lot of work. It was some definite progress though and i'm more exited than ever to be in the game. I'll post the worst set of the night over the next few days.

Freak

Mate, I have read your whole journal and I see you have been doing great on opening and keeping conversations going. I believe that you are just lacking kino escalation (which works wonders).
Next time, try to start kino smoothly and keeping progress. Make you movings without the girl realising what you are up to. If you are able to do this well (fast and smooth) you will make k and f closes in a daily basis.
I was there. I was able to open sets easily after some time (which is unbelievably hard in Brazil, where hot girls are usually totally stuck up), but ended up falling into friend zone.
It became very easy to build attraction, but I could not escalate. It was even harder then before studying pick up (and I have always been good with women. Got drunk, lots of approaches, lots of rejection, but always one close with direct game).
When I started escalation, it all changed like magic. Now I can escalate smoothly and fastly, and I've had almost every girl I've had home to bed.
Try that next time and surprise yourself. Please keep us updated!