Every time I approached a woman and got rebuffed or turned down, I thought I was doing something wrong. When I read the science that was out there on attraction, I learned about Micro-facial Structures, this was written about by a famous plastic surgeon on how to do surgeries more effective to make someone more attractive, the changes needed to make a woman from hideous to beautiful were only a few milimeters.

There are Billions of women on this planet, each one has a process that they perceive subconsciously as attractive in their mind from physical, tonal, and olfactory attributes that a man presents to them before he even says hello. The interesting thing is that a woman doesn't even know she has these sets of traits. My sister left her fiance and dated a man that looked exactly like her fiance, with specific facial attributes, and tonal inflection. Did she do this consciously, no?

Does this mean a beautiful women couldn't fall for an ugly guy. Not at all, his vocal tonality may be something that turns on her attraction switches, his body may sweat a natural smell that turns on her attraction, there may be identical markers in the micro-structures of her face that she recognizes. But there's one thing for certain, when she's not attracted to you, when there's not that something that attracts her to you, your dead in the water before you start. This is why there are women who have never slept with white men and women who have never slept with black men, women who have never slept with short men and women who have never slept with tall men... and one million other different things... it's not because some PUA didn't come along and seduce her, it's cause she couldn't find attraction in others that didn't have those traits.

So what's this have to do with Approaching, Opening, and Anxiety over these things. Why is it a good thing that so much of the Initial Attraction is taken out of our hands. Once you come to accept that "Initial Attraction" is out of your hands, you come to realize that you're not making mistakes every time you don't seal the deal, you don't have to keep examining what you did wrong and why this or that didn't work. The fact is that you were dead in the water.

Saying, "Hi," is just as powerful an opener, as "Can I ask you a question?" or anything else. Now, obviously, in certain circumastances, you might need to grab their attention a bit more.

But, once you understand that not every woman will be attracted to you, no matter how awesome your opener is, you soon feel free to approach, at least I did. Because with the realization that a girl turning me down is not a rebuff of my skills or game, but simply not in her perception. No guy can get all women because all women want something different. The real skill, the way to never be rejected, is to know when you're getting IOI's and how to escalate, and when you're not, when to eject.

Because here's the truth no one tells you. Most women are very nice and they will talk to you simply because you're talking.

Well said. This is the type of stuff that I (and anyone else starting out) need to get into my head.

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I'm disagreeing in so many ways I dont know where to start dude. First of all.. you can create attraction.. there are several attraction switches in a women's mind that makes you more attractive in her eyes. There is no such thing as before you approach your a dead fish in the water because she doesn't find you attractive. That is complete nonsense.. do you ever sarge?? If you sarge regulary you'll notice that the girls that are not attracted at all to you at first when you open can become majorly attracted to you. First thing you do when you open a set is build attraction before moving to comfort. Yes there are women who never dated tall guys or small guys because they're not usually attracted to that type but if a guy knows his seduction stuff well... he can increases the chances of him hooking up with that chick by a lot. Yes there are women who are more of a challenge but that's not an excuse to say: Oh well it's not my fault she wasn't attracted to me. This is the worst possible excuse you can say in field.. you will never learn anything if you always put the blame on the girl. Pre-selection is the best attraction switch that I witnessed that works like magic.. conveying pre-selection makes you instantly more attracitve to a women.. therefore.. you can create attraction. It's always your fault in every set. Don't put the blame on the girl. Attraction is not a choice.. build attraction by conveying pre-selection and that your the leader of men and a women will feel more sexually interested in you whatever your looks are. It has been proven many times and I witnessed this my self in field. Stop the excuses buddy.. stop bitching and start gaming! Good luck

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Maybe all you are saying is right...but maybe you're just looking for excuses. Pick-Up is an art never forget that, with the right amount of skills, doesn't matter how attractive or unattractive you are (at first glance), you can get the girl. Pick-up is all about BUILDING attraction. Looks can give you a head start, but who gives a shit, it's the skill we're looking for, not the easy targets. Gotta disagree with your post

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Hi there,
My proof that attraction can be created verbally is a very sad one. I come from a country where people take pride in converting girls especially those of a high social status to their religion. There are guys who are paid to do this. Now these are like any specialists that governments hire, like the speech pathologist who wipes out the accent of an Italian movie star, they are the best that money can buy. Now with these guys, there is nothing like "she just wasn't attracted to him" granted they are not just cold approaching, they have teams that work with them to entice the girls but at the end they do get almost every girl that they target. We know that because some of the repentant ones have blown the whistle and exposed the scheme, but again when everything is applied the girl will fall for the guy.

christianpickup where do you come from bro...what techniques do these converters use seems interesting and scary at the same time hehe!

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I don't know what their techniques are but the are so confident, so daring. Like one of my countrymen was telling me what he does. He for example in the first 5 mins after getting an IOI starts alluding to the girl's breasts. Another thing that helps them is that they have no sense of shame or guilt whatsoever because they believe that they are doing the best deed in the world by serving their GOD. That's major too, confidence with pride in what they do might be their secret.

I don't know if this is a joke or not lol but you could make a great movie with this

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I don't know what you think is a joke, but it is all true. So these guys believe that the best deed is converting a girl to their religion and shaming her parents by getting her to forsake theirs. What keeps getting in the way of other guys when they pickup is that they feel guilt. These guys on the other hands have no guilt, but they have pride in deceving the girl. This is so core to any man's game, not feeling guilty about doing what he is doing.

I'm sorry bro this is where you're wrong. What keeps holding back people from having success in pick up isn't guilt at all. Guilt?? Guilt for what my friend? Guilt for having the social skill to chat up a cute girl who's your type and who's doing shopping in the same store as you? This is the first time I hear a dude saying pick up creates guilt. I don't think you sarge..but pick up creates confidence, radiates with positivity and it changes the way you think a lot. What's holding back people from succeeding isn't guilt..it's the effort that you have to make in order to get really good. You need going in field all the time and ALWAYS pushing your limits and your comfort zone. For some people they realise this is too much for them and they don't have the balls to keep going. Sometimes, fear of approach is getting in the way of others..they're fear is so big that they're too fucking lazy to get their asses up their couch and start approaching. Facing a fear eliminates it. Not hoping it goes away. With that being said.. your thing with priests who convert girls in changing religion doesn't really have at all a link with pick up. Picking up is much more than "converting" a girl to like you. It's the tool that gives you the ability to express your true self in the best way you can. And I'm sorry to tell you this..but expressing the best version of your self does not create any amount of guilt.

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