I was debating with someone and she basically told me this below. It seems logical but it angers me a lot because I think she is just jealous and doesnt want me to shoot higher for someone who has good looks. Thoughts?

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Just trying to meet a 10.

Shallow girl.

Celebrity and models, dont go to my house for a party, they go has vip to the most luxury parties and yes if megan fox would go to a random party what did you expect will happen?So they only fraternize with rich people or people they work.

Look at Britney spears she married kevin federline a dancer. Julia roberts also. Marcia cross, the problem here is oportunity and meeting them. They are overun of letters and fans asking them to have sex marry and shit, of course they are afraid of random joes. I would too.

Have friend who is ugly has a scar in the face, but he is fearless around women, he reminds me of gambler on sthealth atraction he does the most crazy things for some reason, girls let him and he is so popular around women that I feel like afc. And I surpass him on looks. He is not rich and he is just regular guy.

Also this guy is PUA, the best in my city, im from a small city. Every girl hates or loves him, and he is not hot or even rich, But his comunicating skills are legendary. What he brings to the table is connection with a girl.

What you also describe is called social value, and yes this thing matters. If you are fun to be around is best than a guy who has no charisma .

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Oh! You've gotta be kidding me!

so you are basically agreeing with what she said but calling her shallow too. noted.

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Just trying to meet a 10.

beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

i would agree with what she said,

but i would change one word...

"typically" beautiful people tend to date other "typically" beautiful people.

society tells us what is "attractive".

and it's total bullshit.

you know it, i know it, we all know it.

how many times you find yourself attracted to the tomboy?

or the girl with the huge bubble butt?

or the geek with braces?

all the fucking time.

so, let the "typically" beautiful people mate.

there is nothing wrong with the other 93% of the population.

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what dr. house brings to medicine, i bring to everyday life (an extreme dose of cynicism), don't listen to the curmudgeon!

hey man i think you got angry cause she sorta put you down in that quote saying that youre nerdy and unattractive and deserve only geeky girls, dont let this bother you cause ultimately you decide what you deserve and how attractive you are dont let other people tell you who you are cause they dont know how could they

attractiveness is never set in stone either especially for men. all you need to know is that if youre confident and have good communication skills you can totally lend yourself a hot girl

listen, keep in mind that looks do matter, don't be dilusional, with that being said, keep in mind that personality matters, keep in mind that money matters, keep in mind that the size of your social circle matters, keep in mind that the lifestyle you live matters,

now with that all in mind, IMPROVE YOURSELF, you don't like your current status in society?, CHANGE THE DAMN STATUS, there is no magical pill to make you some major pimp cause you read an e-book (but you can improve your understanding), you will get an amount of success based off of the effort you put into reaching success based off of what you subjectively view success as,

if you are not happy with your body, go to the gym and train train train, if you are not happy with your style, buy new clothes and give yourself a new image, if you are not happy with your personality, work on yourself, you want to improve your social circle, meet new people, if you are not happy with how submissive and un-assertive you are work on being more dominant and alpha,

at the end of the day, confidence and effort will be the defining factors in how many things you can accomplish, with no confidence and no effort, nothing will get accomplished, if you want to be successful, start improving, and get to work, you can become physically attractive, you can become a charismatic person, you can become financially successful,

don't let people around you define your reality, you can become what ever you set your mind to, your possibilities are endless, you can become what ever you want, you just have to actually want that and put in the effort to accomplish what you want

on a side note, looks are subjective, and everyone has different tastes and attraction is not so solidly shallow as the picture she is painting

different people will value and respond to different things that will attract them to you

your life is ending day by day, you only have so long to accomplish what you want to accomplish, TAKE ACTION BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE

Woot? Im saying an ugly man can date hot women.

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Oh! You've gotta be kidding me!

Looks certainly do matter. Its same as guy going out for HB9 and HB10, why we do it, because we perceive them as high value. Similarly do girls.
Though girls do have an xray vision and a sixth sense, they can sense high value in many other traits which can be exhibited by a man than just looks, but that should be some thing which can quickly separate him from the crowd and gives him social status.
Good looking guys though work because they quickly lower ASD[personal experience not something I read]. Its a social perception and also a natural trigger.

She's absolutely right man.

She says that you need to bring something to the table. It can be good looks, OR SOMETHING ELSE. She specifically says this. That is they key. Guys often bring something else to the table, and looks are secondary. That is why musicians, even just the random guy who plays guitar, can get hot girls. They have a passion that they have developed and they bring that to the table. This is why PUAs get hot girls. They have a passion that they have developed, strong social skills, that attracts girls.

If you are shy and nerdy, you will NOT get hot girls (except girls with low self esteem, ones who will go psycho and stab you, etc. You dont want them). Develop yourself! Improve!

I know her overall logical explanation (quoted) info is right and Im sure she made sure it was in case I wanted to challenge her on it. But she also seemed to subtly hint the point that I should just give up and settle for 'what I can get'. When she gave me further advice, she kept telling me to pretty much stop aiming so high and settle for 'what i deserve' and kept referring to her above logical explanation. she was saying how i should look more for a girls personality and not aim so high for looks if I am not up to par myself and stuff, which really angered and frustrated me. she was in no way cheering me on to better myself and bring something to the table. which is what pissed me off.

p.s. snake doctor sorry i was in a rush reading your posts earlier so yeah i nowunderstand you were not just agreeing with her i did not mean to sound like i was insulting u

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Just trying to meet a 10.