How much of modern day material is designed to create attraction and how much is is just not miss chances (girls who are in to you & only need you to make a move)?

In your views, how separate are the two? Very similar or mostly different?

Simple post, I know, but wanted to see how common my thoughts were.

Modern day material is designed to get you laid.

Not create attraction. Not be "alpha". Not Demonstrate value. Or any of that crap.

But modern day material is also all about the market

It depends who your guru is. Some gurus teach seduction in a techincal fasion. (Atrraction, Dhv, Negs, ect.) $ome teach it in a finite way. A way that the average man can understan. (get number, get kisses, get sum butt)

Wit is the number one attractant.
If you can play off her script then your golden.

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If you've been out a couple of times you'd find that either:

some girls didn't want to talk to you at all
some girls didn't want to talk to you, but warmed up to it.
some girls wanted to talk with you.


whether 'creating chances' or 'not missing chances' is the absolute truth, i wouldn't know.

but, talking to those girls in the first place is good enough to find out.

EDIT:

what's old material, what's new material?

IMO it makes no difference.

If you really want to comparise products you should be in the 'review' section of this forum.

Spot on Jav.

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You CAN make a change.
You WILL make a change.

Ambitious to be succesfull => Shyler

When it started, it was Ross Jeffries and NLP. That was actually about how to develop her lust for you.

Then you had guys like Mystery who built up DHV & social proof to make a girl attracted to you.

What inspired me to post this was on another thread where someone was talking about the ultimate method. This method was to only approach the girls who gave you an invite to approach. Those are the girls for whom no development of attraction is required; they are already interested.

There are still guys who teach how to develop attraction, but a lot of PUAs seem to be talking more now about how to go the way with a girl who's already into you.

Of course, it could be that the 'taking chances' group have always existed and just weren't as well publicised.