Ive had situations like these where the girl doesnt put out. One reason is talking about the Politics of sex too much. If she forms a conservative persona with you, she will be conservative when shes with you. Next is escalation like what most say is 2 steps forward 1 step back. You need to make it seem like escalation is her choice. If you plow your way through all your escalation, it creates momentum where you have to bust your ass convincing her to do such and such. Its a very inefficient way to game and it requires less emotional involvement on her part since she just waits for you to keep chasing her.

You did good though trusting on yourself. Sometimes you just have to drop all the bs and let her know whos boss. She has tits and vagina well fvck that its better leave with your pride than lose it for some spoiled chick.

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Bow chika wow wow

It is possible to be too smooth even though nobody thinks it is.

A girl coming home with you doesnt mean that she is gonna perform but it is a pretty good indication and at leats she has thought about it.

So what do you think happens if you just flufftalk and keep DHVing. You already did that, any more than is required gets boring. The girl gets turned off and disappointed and sense your insecurity. That means you arent getting any if you dont show that you are ready to get into the mood.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Hell once I get 'em home I just get naked.

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It came to me in a drreeeaaammmm

Just get her at your place. Say something like " Hey I really wanna watch this movie and I need pop corn ( it could be anything), can you bring some on your way here? "
If she says " oh i cant I have to...." or stuff like that
"What do you mean you cant come?, I really need pop corn, its a really good movie and I dont want to be biting my nails while watching it.."

You know make the " popcorn" or whatever else be the reason why you want her to come. She ll be surpirised and she ll think that you lost sexual interest on her, she ll want to regain it . When she comes you are in your home so u ll be a lot more relaxed, kino escalate and be spontaneous. Women love men who are spontaneous. Make your move man. Nothing to lose.

If she says no, trust me she ll love it that you have this dominant attitude, but she wont say no.

Remember you miss 100% of the shots you dont take. So take the shot and see what happens

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When the going gets tough, the tough get going!

I like what Fvckitimout said about momentum and conservative image. I sometimes feel like I have to break this mold in my interactions. Sometimes I get in this zone were I feel like I am debating sex with a women. Or I will end up talking game with a girl. This is useualy after a point when I take a shot and feel some sort of rejection.

Then I catch myself chasing more then I should.

So I play it off with the girl for a couple days and tell her I am busy.

Go back and restart with this attitude that I do not need her so much.

Maybe its my keno and eye contact. Is it possible to keno too much before a kiss close?

We were talking quite a lot about kissing before we actually did. Then she made me wait a day for sex?? Whats up with that? If she was DTF why did she just not fuck me. The answer is prob simple. Just take off my clothes right. haha classic.. Nice advice all.

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Don't forget the ones, that helped make me, the man I like becoming!

LMAO. Lamest tactic ever. Plus most women are not *that* naive.

it's always funny when a guy doesn't understand that a women wants sex if they walk up to you and say: hey let's play monopoly at my home, when they both are in the nightclub.